posted July 10, 2022 10:33 AM            

It's funny though because when I was passive I attracted as many men as I do now, nada. The men I did interact with while passive were borderline stalkers who had a tendency to learn things about me from others or observing me from afar. I definitely cut contact from them when I realized this. The men with the provider mindset are personally unsettling to me, it feels like they're trying to control me and many times I find they are deeply insecure.

I wish I could experience this dynamic of a man chasing me to understand what people talk about. And I wonder if it can be played out in a healthy manner. But watching it from the outside I see a lot of men become contemptuous of the women they're dating when involved in relationships like that. I also notice that many times, those in the relationship don't even notice that dynamic between them in the first place.

Maybe it's because I'm neurodivergent and I don't fit the ideal feminine stereotype that these relationships don't work out for me like it does for other people. I feel like I'm pretending if I try to be what society defines as 'feminine', I like doing my own thing, art, having my own money and learning which for me is how I express my 'feminity'.

I have noticed as somone who has interacted with pisces men, that they can be very passive. There's lots of hinting, and ghosting in my experience that makes it hard for me to even be their friends much less anything else.

posted July 10, 2022 01:17 PM            

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The men I did interact with while passive were borderline stalkers who had a tendency to learn things about me from others or observing me from afar. I definitely cut contact from them when I realized this. /B]

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posted July 10, 2022 02:15 PM            

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Originally posted by Asjah:
The whole idea of women being the prize and men chasing and being a provider is interesting to me. I didn't even know that dynamic existed until I found a random video on it. That tactic seems to work for many women, especially those who fit societies beauty standards.

It's funny though because when I was passive I attracted as many men as I do now, nada. The men I did interact with while passive were borderline stalkers who had a tendency to learn things about me from others or observing me from afar.

I wish I could experience this dynamic of a man chasing me to understand what people talk about. And I wonder if it can be played out in a healthy manner. But watching it from the outside I see a lot of men become contemptuous of the women they're dating when involved in relationships like that.

I feel like I'm pretending if I try to be what society defines as 'feminine', I like doing my own thing, art, having my own money and learning which for me is how I express my 'feminity'.

I have noticed as somone who has interacted with pisces men, that they can be very passive. There's lots of hinting, and ghosting in my experience that makes it hard for me to even be their friends much less anything else.

I'm sure there are pisces men who aren't like that, I think it just depends on who triggers what in them.

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Hi Asjah. 🙂

The concept of the woman being "the prize" - to be courted, won & provided for - goes back 1000's of years across pretty much ALL societies. It's only been over the past 30 or so years that people have gotten the entire game f**ked up with the idea that there are NO differences between the sexes when there are PLENTY of them.

-SCIENCE backs this up.
-RELIGION backs this up.
-NATURE backs this up.

Do you ever see female animals in the wild chasing after the males?? HELL NO & WTF. 😂 The males fight to the death to have access to the female -- human or not. As YOU (woman) get to choose who you procreate with, which man's DNA will continue and which men's genetic line gets denied and ends with him.

When women know their *Real Power* as the Divine Feminine... their presence alone is a GIFT. 💕 Even if you decide not to have kids - your energy, your beauty, your joy, your loyalty, your encouragement, etc is highly nourishing & inspirational to the Divine Masculine. Period.

^^You don't just hand all of THAT amazingness over to a man for Nothing! Or chase him or keep paying for sh*t. He should be showing up for YOU. No excuses.

Younger generations of women have been totally MISLED by the media and by their elders. 💯 It's criminal to me! Seeing all of the suffering, the heartbreak, the lack of self-love, lack of happiness, etc. Which could have been prevented with better guidance.

And a man being a stalker and/or having "contempt" for his partner has nothing to do with him being Masculine or being a Provider. It has everything to do with him being a POS and nothing more. 🤷🏾‍♀️ Do you know how many emotionally & physically abusive BROKE men there are in the world? How many deeply insecure, passive-aggressive, selfish & toxic EFFEMINATE males are out here?

Too many to count!

So yes - the man pursuing the woman can absolutely play out in a healthy manner. ❤ And it's as *natural* as taking a breath if people would stop fighting their instincts so much.

As for Femininity in general... there are several "types" and so not every woman is the same. So don't feel bad! We all have a journey. 👍🏾 I'll share some great resources with you on this if you'd like.

And what you said about Pisces Men is true in many instances. Being far too passive and all. But they are still MEN at the end of the day who can & will assert themselves for the RIGHT Woman. 💪 For example - my Pisces Ex had 1H Scorpio Mars & Saturn conjunct his ASC. He pursued me with great vigor and I loved it! He had his demons, but he wasn't weak.

When women decide to stop being desperate, re-embrace their feminine core & raise their standards again... Men will step up to the plate and blow your freaking mind. 💯 They are NOT stupid or helpless so stop treating them with kid gloves.

posted July 10, 2022 02:16 PM            

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Originally posted by LovelyAries86:
Hi Asjah. 🙂

The concept of the woman being "the prize" - to be courted, won & provided for - goes back 1000's of years across pretty much ALL societies. It's only been over the past 30 or so years that people have gotten the entire game f**ked up with the idea that there are NO differences between the sexes when there are PLENTY of them.

-SCIENCE backs this up.
-RELIGION backs this up.
-NATURE backs this up.

Do you ever see female animals in the wild chasing after the males?? HELL NO & WTF. 😂 The males fight to the death to have access to the female -- human or not. As YOU (woman) get to choose who you procreate with, which man's DNA will continue and which men's genetic line gets denied and ends with him.

When women know their *Real Power* as the Divine Feminine... their presence alone is a GIFT. 💕 Even if you decide not to have kids - your energy, your beauty, your joy, your loyalty, your encouragement, etc is highly nourishing & inspirational to the Divine Masculine. Period.

^^You don't just hand all of THAT amazingness over to man for Nothing! Or chase him or keep paying for sh*t. He should be showing up for YOU.

Younger generations of women have been totally MISLED by the media and by their elders. 💯 It's criminal to me! Seeing all of the suffering, the heartbreak, the lack of self-love, lack of happiness, etc. Which could have been prevented with better guidance.

And a man being a stalker and/or having "contempt" for his partner has nothing to do with him being Masculine or being a Provider. It has everything to do with him being a POS and nothing more. 💯 Do you know how many emotionally & physically abusive BROKE men there are in the world? How many deeply insecure, passive-aggressive, selfish & toxic EFFEMINATE males are out here? Too many to count!

So yes - the man pursuing the woman can absolutely play out in a healthy manner. ❤ And it's as *natural* as taking a breath if people would stop fighting their instincts so much.

As for Femininity in general... there are several "types" and so not every woman is the same. So don't feel bad! We all have a journey. 👍🏾 I'll share some great resources with you on this if you'd like.

And what you said about Pisces Men is true in many instances. Being far too passive and all. But they are still MEN at the end of the day who can & will assert themselves for the RIGHT Woman. 💪 For example - my Pisces Ex had 1H Scorpio Mars & Saturn conjunct his ASC. He pursued me with great vigor and I loved it! He had his demons, but he wasn't weak.

When women decide to stop being desperate, re-embrace their feminine core & raise their standards again... Men will step up to the plate and blow your freaking mind. 💯 They are NOT stupid or helpless so stop treating them with kid gloves.

Alright, all done! Lol.

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posted July 10, 2022 02:20 PM            

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Must be your Pisces-ex's 1st House Mars that took over

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Oh that definitely played a massive role. 💯 And he also had Aqua Venus so he wasn't overly emotional.

posted July 10, 2022 02:53 PM            

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Originally posted by Stawr:

With my Aries and Capricorn in my chart I do like to flaunt my independence to men I like.

But I do also have that Venus Pisces Jupiter Cancer in my chart that needs, and is super attracted to a handy man. "Oh my gosh this is a new car, how do I turn it on!" LOL

Yeah after what I went though with one relationship...the man must pay on the first date. I of course will pay on dates. But I just feel like I can't have that "set the tone" after what I went through.

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We're both Aries so you know I know. Lol.

It's sexy AF when a man fixes stuff and pays for things! 🔥 Legit.

Where is Capricorn placed in your chart? I have Cap Mars.

I'm very glad that you are raising your standards. Raise them even higher if you wish! 🥂 You deserve to have most (if not all) dates paid for if that's your real heart's desire.

Nothing wrong with having your own money and being capable of self-sufficiency. 👍🏾

However, bragging about independence to (masculine) men just makes a woman come across energetically as "another man" sitting across the table from him. And the (feminine) man will see you as someone HE can lean on that will provide for HIM. 💯 So one man will quickly lose interest in her and the other guy will suck her completely dry.

See what I mean? Approach is everything.

Even if a woman doesn't "need" a man - makes no sense to keep telling him that. As they surely won't LIFT A FINGER after you have said so in most instances.

So don't play yourself ladies!

posted July 10, 2022 04:16 PM            

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Originally posted by LovelyAries86:

The concept of the woman being "the prize" - to be courted, won & provided for - goes back 1000's of years across pretty much ALL societies. It's only been over the past 30 or so years that people have gotten the entire game f**ked up with the idea that there are NO differences between the sexes when there are PLENTY of them.

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posted July 11, 2022 04:29 AM            

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Originally posted by Librapurr:

Exactly, many men “have forgotten the entire game “. So it works better with older generations. I acknowledged not so far ago modern 25-40 men might be completely different species. They often don’t have realization girls are supposed to be taking care of or at least to be helped a little because they’re physically not as strong as men. Also, they often want women to take care of them and adore their appearance. When they wouldn’t do the same. Sometimes roles are flipped not only financially.
Because many of them were overbeared by their parents or don’t have a good mother/father figure.

Also, there’re planets. If you’re happened to be mars and he is Venus… Can we outbid it?

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This is all very true. And a real shame.

The combination of having an overbearing, overly independent mother and a passive (or absent) father incapable of leading... often renders devastating results for BOTH sexes growing up. 💯 This began after the rise of Feminism during the 70's with GenX, then snowballed with Millennials and now has a chokehold on GenZ.

1st Wave Feminism was *absolutely* necessary and great for women. 👍🏾 But once we hit 2nd & 3rd Wave?? It turned toxic AF for all parties involved - the men, the children & the women themselves. Our society has ERASED the importance of having strong male figures in our lives. And that's horrible! Many of the breakdowns taking place in our culture today are related to this.

~A girl's father should be the FIRST man to dote on, spoil & protect her. 💕 To tell her how amazing she is and that she deserves the world. He is supposed to educate her about the Male Mind and how to vet properly.

~A boy's father is to be his BLUEPRINT for how to be a man. Dad understands the things about him that his mother never will. Dad knows how to instill, push, test & grow the powerful masculinity within his son. 💪 He teaches him how to lead, court & care for women. And how to courageously fight, protect & produce to the death when necessary.

^^And Mom is supposed to be there to balance the energy out! 🌕 She is not "the same" as Dad but is of EQUAL importance in every way. She's there to encourage & uplift her son - NOT baby him. And to be the BLUEPRINT of womanhood to her daughter - not teaching her how to be as masculine as possible, hate men & be miserable in life.

We need to get back to The Basics that have sustained us for centuries in order to turn this HOT MESS around. 👍🏾 While also keeping the handful of positive progressive strides that have served us well.

As always - Balance is truly KEY.

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And if a Woman is Mars & Man is Venus... it can still work out if other synastry aspects are supportive. Now if she's Mars, Pluto & Saturn ACROSS THE BOARD? And no double whammies? I'd probably run for the hills. 💯

posted July 11, 2022 05:20 AM            

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Originally posted by Stawr:
I've gotten to know somebody better I see at parties and bigger social group settings. He has Venus in Aries but it's rx. I only know so much about him. But he has been more bold with me lately. But nothing obsessive.

He has Mercury Pisces, so he can be pretty intuitive, and wait for my guard to be down more.

I went out to lunch with him his ex gf friend with benefits and our other friend. I am telling you our banter and him paying attention to me was freaking out his ex gf w/ benefits while still being cool. It made me kind of uncomfortable so I ordered two glasses of wine. LOL I kind of gave him a look and a gesture at one point to go with her when she was calling him because otherwise she is going to hate me and freak out more because of the attention I was getting. I've been in her shoes. Part of me felt guilty while another part of me was kind of getting off on it. The glances, our feet touching under the table, inviting me to keep going along with him.

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Which House is his Aries Venus in? Any planets in his 1st House?

posted July 11, 2022 05:38 AM            

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Well now I just get to be a housewife, no pressure to get a job when I travel with him. I think I deserve it.

When I had the forced overtime job, and his lack of self awareness, and his Virgo stellilum having him no problem being critical of others...that when I would talk back to him more, because he still had the expectation for me to act like I did not work a ten hour day. He was working less than me that year. One day I came home from working a 10 hour day he was laying on the couch waiting for me to cook dinner for him. Well it was all fine and dandy, until he made a comment about my shoes being out where they should not be. I let him know that when he was working more, I would clean and organize his stuff, but he wont do the same for me, and instead of complaining, he could actually be helpful. Instead of just laying on the couch waiting for me to cook him dinner. Every time we had an argument I would bring up this incident for four years.

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Well you do deserve it! 👍🏾 Take a breather & relax. Outside of his Virgoan nitpicking - are you enjoying being a Housewife?

Him *expecting* you to cook after working 10 hours is absurd. Now that you're at home - he should be much more appreciative of your time and willing to provide for you instead of watching you work excessively. So that you have the energy to "pour into" him and be your best self. But who knows lol

posted July 11, 2022 05:49 AM            

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Oh noo, really?! Try again, it should work: https://imgur.com/a/6jMVE7Z

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I see it now.

He's Leo Mars & Rising. He IS definitely capable of pursuing *if* he wants to. Some Leos can become lazy though.

Think of the 'Lion King' movie.

You have MUFASA. ☀️
Then you have SCAR. 🙄

I rest my case. Lol. Know the difference.

posted July 11, 2022 09:57 AM            

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Originally posted by LovelyAries86:
We're both Aries so you know I know. Lol.

It's sexy AF when a man fixes stuff and pays for things! 🔥 Legit.

Where is Capricorn placed in your chart? I have Cap Mars.

I'm very glad that you are raising your standards. Raise them even higher if you wish! 🥂 You deserve to have most (if not all) dates paid for if that's your real heart's desire.

Nothing wrong with having your own money and being capable of self-sufficiency. 👍🏾

However, bragging about independence to (masculine) men just makes a woman come across energetically as "another man" sitting across the table from him. And the (feminine) man will see you as someone HE can lean on that will provide for HIM. 💯 So one man will quickly lose interest in her and the other guy will suck her completely dry.

See what I mean? Approach is everything.

Even if a woman doesn't "need" a man - makes no sense to keep telling him that. As they surely won't LIFT A FINGER after you have said so in most instances.

So don't play yourself ladies!

Stop leading with your trauma. 👍🏾 Have boundaries but learn to receive.

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I am super attracted to men who are handy as well.
I have Uranus 9 degrees Capricorn house 8, Neptune Capricorn 14 degrees house 8, Saturn 24 degrees Capricorn house 9
I have fortune in Capricorn too 8 degrees house 8.
My Venus and Mars are in the 10th house.

I notice you have the number 86 in your user name. I know Mars was in Capricorn a long time in 1986. My May 86 friend has Mars in Capricorn. My 86 September sister has Mars Capricorn too.

Thank you very much! If I am not fine with something the bottle will burst that is for sure. I like paying on dates, but I can't feel like I am doing it more. I've experienced all kinds of stuff with this dynamic in relationships.
I was mostly shelling out the money when I was with a Cancer stellilum guy. It even makes me think that synastry with people in my second house can be financially draining.
After that I was like I need a guy who can pay more, and I'm willing to wait for it. I met more guys like my ex, but didn't not repeat.
Then with Scorpio stellilum guy he almost always payed. I would on rare occasions. But unfortunately he resented me for it, I learned that it didn't matter that I sometimes paid on dates.
Now with my Virgo stellilum husband he paid on the first date. After being with the Scorpio guy, I knew Virgo was the one because he was very upfront with me. "I will take you on dates, but I can't do it every single day" This is the most financial compatibility I've ever felt. We are both frugal, but willing to drop a wad for what our hearts truly desire. He has taken me on the best dates ever and has given me the best gifts. When I was done with my first degree, I decided I wanted to return the favor. I decided for me, I can take him on a date once a month.

It is so important though that I am appreciated for it. No attitude. After that one incident I let my husband know, that if he is in a really bad mood we need to reschedule the date. There are times we are about to go on a date, if he is upset about something I will ask him "is this going to effect your mood on the date? should we reschedule?" He will say that he will be fine and then he will keep it together. I also had him only pay on dates the rest of that year. About 6 months.

A long time ago I decided that I needed to happy single. BUT that it is okay to want a relationship and have standards and goals.

posted July 11, 2022 10:16 AM            

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Originally posted by LovelyAries86:
Which House is his Aries Venus in? Any planets in his 1st House?

I can tell that you feel very torn in your marriage. And that's tough.

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I don't think he is into astrology so I don't know. But his Venus is in my 11th house. Trines my IC, and S. node. Sextiles MC and N. node.
Sextiles rising.
Squares my Neptune

posted July 11, 2022 11:12 AM            

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Originally posted by LovelyAries86:
Well you do deserve it! 👍🏾 Take a breather & relax. Outside of his Virgoan nitpicking - are you enjoying being a Housewife?

Him *expecting* you to cook after working 10 hours is absurd. Now that you're at home - he should be much more appreciative of your time and willing to provide for you instead of watching you work excessively. So that you have the energy to "pour into" him and be your best self. But who knows lol

Aries Women are MOST LIKELY to divorce Virgo & Libra Men according to stats. I'm not surprised...

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Thank you! I've actually been surprised how happy and supportive people have been towards me about this change.
With my 6th house moon, pluto, lilith I'll nitpick back. lol Pretty much a: see? how do you like it?
I don't get how Virgo's can be so critical but then sensitive to criticism themself? I feel like that is the unevolved Virgo. lol

Well I haven't hit the road yet. But it is strange and beautiful the energy has shifted. I see my self becoming a bit more care free each day.
My husband is on the night shift right now. I am deciding if I am going to sync with his sleep schedule or not. He wants to cook for me sometimes. My husband does get take out a lot. He can afford it though because he is frugal in other areas, he will often order something for me too. We will mostly be staying at extended stay hotels. So there wont be much house keeping to do, but I will still do whatever. I will definitely want to find things to do on my own, being in a small place. I use to cook and meal prep a lot. But in 2017...that started to go out the window when my forced overtime started. I have not really got back in the groove yet. Also my husband is a very picky eater. (bread and meat) and I like to eat more of a healthy variety. But I would buy chicken and potatoes to chop up. I sometimes would cook plain rice for us too. We also wont have an oven at the extended stays.

Having a career is pretty overrated and a flawed system. Like I can be passionate in my field...but why does it have to be most of my life and my time? I am all for the 4 day work week. I learned that if I work part time I wont go broke. That was liberating to learn. I also decided that if I do go back into preschool teaching I would only teach part time classes. Because full time teaching guarantees working over 40 hours. I seriously do not understand women who don't have to work but chose to work just to get out of the house. I would join like a social club or something if I felt that way. Or women who say they get bored on their summer vacation.

I do not have a tolerance at all for people telling me what I am not doing male or female. I will not hesitate to tell that person what they are not doing. I will tell my husband that he is sexist sometimes. My husband loves this about me too. He likes that I raise the bar for him to be better.

I actually had to tell my male best friend he was being sexist the other day. We went to a museum together that he goes to all the time. So he was doing this thing acting like the museum was his house. They way he was socializing with me had me like wtf, gag, stop. Like he felt like he had to explain, lecture, educate me when I didn't effin ask. I am not the most confrontational person with friends, but I had to speak up because it was constant! Like at first I just mildly eye rolled and thought my friend was comically high strung. Pointed to the blue dress. "That's Cinderella's dress" That's how it started! When I asked him to tone down the "mansplaining" He kind of shut down a bit. I was sort of shut down too because I was POed that he was insulting my intelligence for an hour and a half. I felt like a needed a drink to lighten up, but since we were at a museum that wasn't happening.

But with these men, they do eventually take accountability, and are grateful that I called them out.

My mother in law is an Aries. She divorced a Taurus, and her husband now is a Virgo.

posted July 11, 2022 05:04 PM            

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Originally posted by Stawr:

Having a career is pretty overrated and a flawed system. Like I can be passionate in my field...but why does it have to be most of my life and my time? I am all for the 4 day work week. I learned that if I work part time I wont go broke. That was liberating to learn.
I seriously do not understand women who don't have to work but chose to work just to get out of the house. I would join like a social club or something if I felt that way. Or women who say they get bored on their summer vacation.

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... And let the church say AMEN! ❤💯❤

http://giphy.com/gifs/cbs-reba-young-sheldon-youngsheldon-udxZljnIusVdFSIZJT

ALL of this is so true. And definitely liberating as a woman once you finally realize the truth. 👍🏾 I never work more than 3-4 days a week. And I only work for or partner with places that I *really* want to now. I refuse to be stressed out on a job anymore.

I have several interests & hobbies that keep my passionate fires burning. 🔥

posted July 12, 2022 10:04 AM            

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Originally posted by LovelyAries86:
... And let the church say AMEN! ❤💯❤

http://giphy.com/gifs/cbs-reba-young-sheldon-youngsheldon-udxZljnIusVdFSIZJT

ALL of this is so true. And definitely liberating as a woman once you finally realize the truth. 👍🏾 I never work more than 3-4 days a week. And I only work for or partner with places that I *really* want to now. I refuse to be stressed out on a job anymore.

I have several interests & hobbies that keep my passionate fires burning. 🔥

I'm so happy for you Stawr!! 🥂 I'll be back soon to respond to your other replies.

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Okay I love having hobbies and such.

My Virgo second cousin actually tried not working for sometime. She is a Virgo. She said she is really not into having hobbies and ended up just laying around watching TV. So she decided to go back to work. Part of the reason she decided to stay home was because she thought cleaning the home was too much with a full time job. But she has a new system now where she focuses on one room everyday of something.

posted July 12, 2022 07:07 PM            

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Originally posted by Stawr:
I am super attracted to men who are handy as well.

I have Uranus 9 degrees Capricorn house 8, Neptune Capricorn 14 degrees house 8, Saturn 24 degrees Capricorn house 9
I have fortune in Capricorn too 8 degrees house 8.
My Venus and Mars are in the 10th house.

I notice you have the number 86 in your user name. I know Mars was in Capricorn a long time in 1986.

Thank you very much! If I am not fine with something the bottle will burst that is for sure. I like paying on dates, but I can't feel like I am doing it more. I've experienced all kinds of stuff with this dynamic in relationships.

I decided for me, I can take him on a date once a month.

It is so important though that I am appreciated for it. No attitude. After that one incident I let my husband know, that if he is in a really bad mood we need to reschedule the date. I also had him only pay on dates the rest of that year. About 6 months.

A long time ago I decided that I needed to happy single. BUT that it is okay to want a relationship and have standards and goals.

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Yeah handymen are hottt! Construction Workers, too. And Firemen. 🔥🔥 Soldiers as well. I'm not into dainty, weak men.

Someone like Johhny Depp, for instance. I found him very *physically* attractive in his younger days. But he's too passive & soft spoken as a man -- that's how he became easy prey for a psycho like Amber Heard. 💯 He allowed her to dominate him.

So you're an '89 Baby?? With the mighty Capricorn Trinity. 🙂 And yep, Capricorn Mars dominated '86 - year of the Fire Tiger. I love it.

And good for you on speaking up for yourself. 👍🏾 It's one of the things I love the most about us Aries Women. Men need a kick in the pants sometimes! Haha.

I have found that men often aren't very appreciative when a woman *regularly* spends money on them. It's a waste. Lol. I'm much more inclined to cook them a nice meal while wearing a minidress, pick up their favorite dessert or offer them a full-body massage after a long day as my thank you to them. I'm very creative and thoughtful and willing to "tailor" my giving to best put a smile on the face of the person that I care for. ❤

posted July 12, 2022 10:20 PM            

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Originally posted by LovelyAries86:
Yeah handymen are hottt! Construction Workers, too. And Firemen. 🔥🔥 Soldiers as well. I'm not into dainty, weak men.

Someone like Johhny Depp, for instance. I found him very *physically* attractive in his younger days. But he's too passive & soft spoken as a man -- that's how he became easy prey for a psycho like Amber Heard. 💯 He allowed her to dominate him.

So you're an '89 Baby?? With the mighty Capricorn Trinity. 🙂 And yep, Capricorn Mars dominated '86 - year of the Fire Tiger. I love it.

And good for you on speaking up for yourself. 👍🏾 It's one of the things I love the most about us Aries Women. Men need a kick in the pants sometimes! Haha.

I have found that men often aren't very appreciative when a woman *regularly* spends money on them. It's a waste. Lol. I'm much more inclined to cook them a nice meal while wearing a minidress, pick up their favorite dessert or offer them a full-body massage after a long day as my thank you to them. I'm very creative and thoughtful and willing to "tailor" my giving to best put a smile on the face of the person that I care for. ❤

And you brought up a great point! A woman should be "well acquainted" with happiness whether she's Single or Taken. 💯 It's a beautiful thing to be open to & desire love in your life. Just be sure not to become DESPERATE for it or put your life on hold.

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I have been super attracted to mechanics, custodians, police men, shop hands, and wind technicians.

But I can also be attracted to a corporate dressed man with my 8th house Capricorn. But it is more natural to flirt with a handy man.

Ugh okay fine I dated a marine for 2 years. They are tools though in my experience. lol

Yeah Jonny Depp is alright. I'm not into his Captain Jack look. But I liked his Public Enemy look. I'm more into Rob Lowe.

April 90- Year of the Metal Horse

Thank you! My Cancer friend admires that about me too! My Aries mother in law...OMG where do I start. Her Taurus ex husband says "she can never let go of anything and will always bring up the past" She also has Cancer moon. With my Scorpio moon I can sort of relate.
She will call out her current husband in front of the whole family. A few years ago she brought up to her Virgo husband how he wasn't helping her enough after having their baby. In front of me, was super awkward! Their daughter is a teenager now. Her husband chimed in like "okay that's enough!" to get her to stop.
I will say this though, they still sleep in the same bed unlike my parents who avoid confrontation at all costs.
I think with my water moon in Scorpio, I like to handle these issues in private. And sometimes private can mean and soon as we get in the car alone and and soon as I shut the door. But I definitely have a hard time letting go of anytime I've ever felt betrayed.

Yeah...It's really surprising how men can just women for granted. Especially in women paying on dates. Overall my husband is good on dates. But anytime a man ever isn't I will totally lose my cool. I think I didn't really with the Cancer stellilum guy though because of his manipulation tactics and his bipolar.
When my husband was rude on that fancy date. I yelled and cried at him. And the next day I cried in the bathtub, and took a nap. That day he bought me a box of chocolates because he knew how bad he screwed up. He is also the first man ever to get me apology gifts.
My husband use to be rude on ice cream dates. Because I eat ice cream really slow! He doesn't like to just sit there and watch me eat ice cream. The first time I took him on an ice cream date I was low key disappointed because when he finished his ice cream. He rode his bike in a circle. While I finished my ice cream on my own. I told him on another date the whole point of dates is spending time with each other. I couldn't believe how much I've had to reprimand him on each of these types of dates. It finally got to the point where I told him, I refuse to take you on any other type of date. (movies, steakhouse, concert, etc) Until I am shown the respect I deserve while I take you for ice cream. He was finally able to do it at Culvers. I could tell that it took everything in him to not slip up. But he finally did it.

Yeah I definitely don't mind cooking, house keeping, wearing little nighties, baking with nothing but an apron on. But so not realistic when career and such is so demanding.

It does kind of mess me up to know how internalized his sexism is too. He seriously has this phobia that if he does any picking up after me that he will turn into Cinderella. So with that mentality that he can't get over, I said okay then you need to be the one who always works more then, and he agreed.

posted July 13, 2022 12:06 AM            

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Originally posted by Stawr:
I have been super attracted to mechanics, custodians, police men, shop hands, and wind technicians.

But I can also be attracted to a corporate dressed man with my 8th house Capricorn. But it is more natural to flirt with a handy man.

Ugh okay fine I dated a marine for 2 years. They are tools though in my experience. lol

Yeah Jonny Depp is alright. I'm not into his Captain Jack look. But I liked his Public Enemy look. I'm more into Rob Lowe.

April 90- Year of the Metal Horse

Thank you! My Cancer friend admires that about me too! My Aries mother in law...OMG where do I start. Her Taurus ex husband says "she can never let go of anything and will always bring up the past" She also has Cancer moon. With my Scorpio moon I can sort of relate. She will call out her current husband in front of the whole family.

Yeah...It's really surprising how men can just women for granted. Especially in women paying on dates. Overall my husband is good on dates. But anytime a man ever isn't I will totally lose my cool. My husband use to be rude on ice cream dates. Because I eat ice cream really slow! He doesn't like to just sit there and watch me eat ice cream. I couldn't believe how much I've had to reprimand him on each of these types of dates.

Yeah I definitely don't mind cooking, house keeping, wearing little nighties, baking with nothing but an apron on. But so not realistic when career and such is so demanding.

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First off - I actually lol'ed at the ice cream scenario. Him staring at you with mild disdain as you slurp slowly. 😂😂 And you wanting to kill him for it.

I'd just do something different with him and find someone else to eat ice cream with who enjoys it. 👍🏾 That way, you aren't hurt & he doesn't feel bored. Just as he shouldn't invite you to sports games if you hate sports, for example.

And wow @ your Mother-in-law! It's all about balance. As an Aries/Cancer, I am very nostalgic about the past & I like to have closure. But I do not constantly throw the past up in people's faces, as that is toxic. And I wouldn't blatantly embarrass my husband in front of a crowd (unless) he rudely disrespected me first. I'd address my issues with him privately, in most cases. I don't like the idea of having a bunch of people in our business.

Reprimanding men is exhausting. We're not their mothers. Lol. I'll calmly express my desires to him and see what he does. If he hesitates, I will pull away completely. If my needs are ignored - I'm surely ignoring YOU.

I give my Feminine Energy to a man who puts in Masculine Effort. 💯 I refuse to waste it or stress myself out.

You mentioned that you feel more & more "carefree" each day now being a Housewife. ⚘⚘ And that's wonderful! So progress is being made. It's much easier to cook & be a sex kitten when you aren't forced to work 10 hours a day! That's for sure.

And f**k yes to men in SUITS. 🔥🔥 The tailored ones that fit their silhouettes. My Cap Mars adores it!! *splash waterfalls*

posted July 15, 2022 10:20 AM            

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First off - I actually lol'ed at the ice cream scenario. Him staring at you with mild disdain as you slurp slowly. 😂😂 And you wanting to kill him for it.

I'd just do something different with him and find someone else to eat ice cream with who enjoys it. 👍🏾 That way, you aren't hurt & he doesn't feel bored. Just as he shouldn't invite you to sports games if you hate sports, for example.

And wow @ your Mother-in-law! It's all about balance. As an Aries/Cancer, I am very nostalgic about the past & I like to have closure. But I do not constantly throw the past up in people's faces, as that is toxic. And I wouldn't blatantly embarrass my husband in front of a crowd (unless) he rudely disrespected me first. I'd address my issues with him privately, in most cases. I don't like the idea of having a bunch of people in our business.

Reprimanding men is exhausting. We're not their mothers. Lol. I'll calmly express my desires to him and see what he does. If he hesitates, I will pull away completely. If my needs are ignored - I'm surely ignoring YOU.

I give my Feminine Energy to a man who puts in Masculine Effort. 💯 I refuse to waste it or stress myself out.

You mentioned that you feel more & more "carefree" each day now being a Housewife. ⚘⚘ And that's wonderful! So progress is being made. It's much easier to cook & be a sex kitten when you aren't forced to work 10 hours a day! That's for sure.

And f**k yes to men in SUITS. 🔥🔥 The tailored ones that fit their silhouettes. My Cap Mars adores it!! *splash waterfalls*

Rob Lowe is hot indeed. I loved him, Patrick Swayze & C Thomas Howell in 'The Outsiders' movie so much! Never gets old for me.

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Now that he's got it right, I don't make him sit down anymore. We either walk around or go home and put a show on.

Same with me, I like to fight in private, and don't like the idea of bystanders getting the tea, and then telling others our business. If I want to tell a friend about the fight later, I will.

Oh yeah, emotional labor is quite a modern problem in marriage I feel. Marriages are work, but if it always feels like work, burn out happens. I asked my husband "when do you think I started getting burned out in this marriage?" He said March. I was like "try November."

I will say I am very blessed to have a husband willing to go to therapy. I know that can be the final straw for a lot of women is that there husband refuses counseling. We have a session together today. This will be my second time joining.

My friend's Cancer husband told her "if you think we need counseling just divorce me" and now she is trying to save to leave him.

posted July 15, 2022 11:26 AM            

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This is all very true. And a real shame.

The combination of having an overbearing, overly independent mother and a passive (or absent) father incapable of leading... often renders devastating results for BOTH sexes growing up. 💯 This began after the rise of Feminism during the 70's with GenX, then snowballed with Millennials and now has a chokehold on GenZ.

1st Wave Feminism was *absolutely* necessary and great for women. 👍🏾 But once we hit 2nd & 3rd Wave?? It turned toxic AF for all parties involved - the men, the children & the women themselves. Our society has ERASED the importance of having strong male figures in our lives. And that's horrible! Many of the breakdowns taking place in our culture today are related to this.

~A girl's father should be the FIRST man to dote on, spoil & protect her. 💕 To tell her how amazing she is and that she deserves the world. He is supposed to educate her about the Male Mind and how to vet properly.

~A boy's father is to be his BLUEPRINT for how to be a man. Dad understands the things about him that his mother never will. Dad knows how to instill, push, test & grow the powerful masculinity within his son. 💪 He teaches him how to lead, court & care for women. And how to courageously fight, protect & produce to the death when necessary.

^^And Mom is supposed to be there to balance the energy out! 🌕 She is not "the same" as Dad but is of EQUAL importance in every way. She's there to encourage & uplift her son - NOT baby him. And to be the BLUEPRINT of womanhood to her daughter - not teaching her how to be as masculine as possible, hate men & be miserable in life.

We need to get back to The Basics that have sustained us for centuries in order to turn this HOT MESS around. 👍🏾 While also keeping the handful of positive progressive strides that have served us well.

As always - Balance is truly KEY.

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Ok. If you can make men to treat women as the woman and care for her without becoming controlling and abusive. Maybe, you will save society and institution of family. May the force be with you.

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It's not a ME thing, it's a WE thing. 💯

Men will not go back to treating women "as women" as long as we insist on collectively competing with them and coveting THEIR Masculinity OVER our innate Femininity.

It's as simple as that.

And often 50/50 Relationships are not ideal. As typically, the dynamic just ends up feeling like (2) roommates living together who happen to f**k sometimes. 🤷🏾‍♀️ But hey, to each their own.

In order for REAL passion, romance & longevity to thrive - polarity must be present. 🔥 Complimentary energies coming together! Not "same" ones. A strong man is not going to break his back to provide for a woman who wishes to emasculate or "neuter" him; And a wise woman is not going to follow the lead of a wimpy man who doesn't make her feel safe.

posted July 16, 2022 07:11 AM            

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I will say I am very blessed to have a husband willing to go to therapy. I know that can be the final straw for a lot of women is that there husband refuses counseling. We have a session together today. This will be my second time joining.

My friend's Cancer husband told her "if you think we need counseling just divorce me" and now she is trying to save to leave him.

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Wow @ the Cancer Man preferring divorce over therapy. 😢 How horrible!! What a mess.

I'm glad to hear that your husband is open to getting help for you guys though. That makes all the difference.

posted July 16, 2022 01:14 PM            

What happened to your Grandma was awful. My mom's mom had a similar experience, as she had to divorce my Grandpa because he *refused* to give up the side woman he was cheating with. He treated HER kids better than he treated his own! 🙄

And my mom's sister married a man strictly "for love" and she paid dearly for it. He was insecure because my aunt was a very beautiful woman and he *knew* she deserved so much better than him. He used to physically beat her to a pulp and take all of HER money. 😢 My aunt wanted to stay home with her babies but this man couldn't keep a job.

Unfortunately, men like this have always existed. And men like this still exist TODAY. Regardless of whether they are "providers" or not. 💯 So a woman working full-time, neglecting her kids & excessively embodying masculine energy is NOT going to protect her from abuse. Is NOT going to bring her any joy either. The key is to vet men, choose wisely & keep a back-up savings stash. 👍🏾