posted August 25, 2022 12:01 AM            

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Mike Tyson has Mars in Cancer. And what I notice with him(and Chris Hemsworth) is how easily triggered they can get. If caught in a bad mood or bad day where people were unfriendly or not showing care, that really pi*** them off.

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posted August 25, 2022 12:07 AM            

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Tucker Carlson has mercury in Gemini, opposed mars in Sagittarius. He chooses to lie on every single episode of his tv show. He knows he’s peddling BS, and he doesn’t care. It helps his agenda. A sun conjunct moon in Taurus. Supposedly as solid and steady as they come. Except that he’s a liar.

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Bernie Madoff also had Sun conjunct Moon in Taurus.

We know Libras suffer from the Liar's disease. Taurus I find are intensely emotionally dishonest.

posted August 25, 2022 07:38 AM            

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Originally posted by Nine:
Mike Tyson has Mars in Gemini.

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Yes you are right. I don't know where I got Mars in Can from?🤔

posted August 25, 2022 07:43 AM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
I was just looking at this again.

Tate has mars and Jupiter in Aquarius conjunct.

My BIL has mars in Gemini, and is a liar, a cheat, a gaslighter. I don’t apply it to everyone with the placement, but he is an ass, period. He obliterated my family.

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Andrew Tate has Mars/Jup conj in Pisces ( Tropical). But Aqua in sidereal.

posted August 25, 2022 07:46 AM            

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Originally posted by Nine:
Bernie Madoff also had Sun conjunct Moon in Taurus.

We know Libras suffer from the Liar's disease. Taurus I find are intensely emotionally dishonest.

Perhaps, Venus, as the lower octave of Neptune bestows them with these gifts.

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Actually Nine,I would say that it is the Mercury opp Mars highlighted that is the cause for the misrepresentaion of truths or causing polar oppositions.

posted August 25, 2022 08:31 AM            

Mercury (ime) tends to see many layers and possibilities in things. It could go one way or the other(or both).

At worst,it can be duplicitous.Saying things that have two meanings or are unclear. Saying one thing and then another thing to contradict what was said earlier. And not always with the intention of being malevolent.

With Mercury in 6th(especially) there is more emphasis and paying attention to the minutiae and trees in the forest.

I rarely get an "all thumbs up" vibe from Mercury folks This especially in 6th, 3rd or 1st house.

My ex has Vir Asc. And if you don't give him specific instructions on what you want him to do. He'll call you again and again for clarity.This because Mercury can often (by default of ruling the Asc) present 2/3 or even more possibilities/ options.

An example is when I asked him to but Doritos at the store. He got there, called me to ask "You want the big packet, the medium packet or the small one?". Then he called again when the flavour was unclear. And this is with something that I thought was simple 🤷🏿‍♂️

My one friend has Mars in Virgo/Merc/Sun conj(similar energy to the 6th). And our ongoing joke in the group is that if we were eaten by a Lion,he is the type to argue(in the afterlife), the type of Lion it was.

We may say that it was a normal Lion.But he will assert that it is a white Lion because he remembers....{fill in detail here}.. etc. He never fully agrees to anything.There is always a point of divergence. A "tweak" here and there.

Fot instance, if I say that he is angry.He will say " I wouldn't say "angry" per se. Just slightly disgruntled. I wouldn't call that anger.." then explain the differences between the two. He can be anal in that respect.

For him, semantics and specifics matter. He'll go on in detail to highlight the nuances of a word or phrase used. Say how "wrong" it is because it doesn't apply to him. And where it could have been "corrected" etc.

posted August 25, 2022 08:59 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
I hear you. And actually I am laughing here because a Gemini/Virgo related post never gets an agreement. And thats because the people who read it,will often highlighted what is "right", then what is "wrong". And lastly, how it can be improved upon. Very Mercury🤣🤣🤣

Mercury (ime) tends to see many layers and possibilities in things. It could go one way or the other(or both).

At worst,it can be duplicitous.Saying things that have two meanings or are unclear. Saying one thing and then another thing to contradict what was said earlier. And not always with the intention of being malevolent.

With Mercury in 6th(especially) there is more emphasis and paying attention to the minutiae and trees in the forest.

I rarely get an "all thumbs up" vibe from Mercury folks This especially in 6th, 3rd or 1st house.

My ex has Vir Asc. And if you don't give him specific instructions on what you want him to do. He'll call you again and again for clarity.This because Mercury can often (by default of ruling the Asc) present 2/3 or even more possibilities/ options.

An example is when I asked him to but Doritos at the store. He got there, called me to ask "You want the big packet, the medium packet or the small one?". Then he called again when the flavour was unclear. And this is with something that I thought was simple 🤷🏿‍♂️

My one friend has Mars in Virgo/Merc/Sun conj(similar energy to the 6th). And our ongoing joke in the group is that if we were eaten by a Lion,he is the type to argue(in the afterlife), the type of Lion it was.

We may say that it was a normal Lion.But he will assert that it is a white Lion because he remembers....{fill in detail here}.. etc. He never fully agrees to anything.There is always a point of divergence. A "tweak" here and there.

Fot instance, if I say that he is angry.He will say " I wouldn't say "angry" per se. Just slightly disgruntled. I wouldn't call that anger.." then explain the differences between the two. He can be anal in that respect.

For him, semantics and specifics matter. He'll go on in detail to highlight the nuances of a word or phrase used. Say how "wrong" it is because it doesn't apply to him. And where it could have been "corrected" etc.

Another Virgo with the same placements may not be as anal. Go the opposite direction. Mercury is diverse that way.

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They love to poke holes, even when there is nothing to be poked and just look for a debate. Both signs can be exhausting because of it in my opinion

posted August 25, 2022 11:30 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
I hear you. And actually I am laughing here because a Gemini/Virgo related post never gets an agreement. And thats because the people who read it,will often highlighted what is "right", then what is "wrong". And lastly, how it can be improved upon. Very Mercury🤣🤣🤣

Mercury (ime) tends to see many layers and possibilities in things. It could go one way or the other(or both).

At worst,it can be duplicitous.Saying things that have two meanings or are unclear. Saying one thing and then another thing to contradict what was said earlier. And not always with the intention of being malevolent.

With Mercury in 6th(especially) there is more emphasis and paying attention to the minutiae and trees in the forest.

I rarely get an "all thumbs up" vibe from Mercury folks This especially in 6th, 3rd or 1st house.

My ex has Vir Asc. And if you don't give him specific instructions on what you want him to do. He'll call you again and again for clarity.This because Mercury can often (by default of ruling the Asc) present 2/3 or even more possibilities/ options.

An example is when I asked him to but Doritos at the store. He got there, called me to ask "You want the big packet, the medium packet or the small one?". Then he called again when the flavour was unclear. And this is with something that I thought was simple 🤷🏿‍♂️

My one friend has Mars in Virgo/Merc/Sun conj(similar energy to the 6th). And our ongoing joke in the group is that if we were eaten by a Lion,he is the type to argue(in the afterlife), the type of Lion it was.

We may say that it was a normal Lion.But he will assert that it is a white Lion because he remembers....{fill in detail here}.. etc. He never fully agrees to anything.There is always a point of divergence. A "tweak" here and there.

Fot instance, if I say that he is angry.He will say " I wouldn't say "angry" per se. Just slightly disgruntled. I wouldn't call that anger.." then explain the differences between the two. He can be anal in that respect.

For him, semantics and specifics matter. He'll go on in detail to highlight the nuances of a word or phrase used. Say how "wrong" it is because it doesn't apply to him. And where it could have been "corrected" etc.

Another Virgo with the same placements may not be as anal. Go the opposite direction. Mercury is diverse that way.

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posted August 25, 2022 12:09 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Yes. Virgo/6th house is affiliated with animals. This im particular small ones. So that makes sense

With Capricorn mars, there is often a default stern demeanour or energy that screams "dont you dare" or "just dont". Saturn is restrictive and "No" energy. So these people are often very much aware of boundaries and so are the people interacting with them etc. They are also made aware of the Cap Mars boundaries.

What can be irritating are people breaking or not following rules. Cap Mars welcomes protocols, procedures and rules because they usually trust those rules are there to ensure ordeliness (Sat).

People in authoritative positions abusing their power.This individual in the position of power could be something as mundane as a store manager/supervisor right up to the President.

Don't break the rules or do shifty things in their presense. That really ticks them off. Nor should you tarnish their good name by teasing or embarrassing them publicly in any way.

I see this palcement being BIG on "Law and Order". Not necessarily as the laywer but the procedural/systematic aspect of it etc. They may be more into administrative roles (this especially as Managers,inspectors or quality assurers/specialists)

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posted August 26, 2022 02:01 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Ime, Most women are unfriendly because the world is harsh to them. I wouldn't be friendly either in a world where I am harrassed sexually when walking down the street.

Nor would I show a lot of camaraderie towards other women if its drummed into me (from when young) that other women are my "competition" and that I have "this much time" by years to get it together i.e. have kids, career and home . All with minimum assistance from the prized 🍆 I am supposed to cherish and treat as both a man and 1st born child. Hell,I'd be pi**d off too.🤷🏿‍♂️

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I think women are conditioned to see each other as competition from an early age. Which is a terrible strategy of divide and conquer, we are being tricked into. I would never stab a woman in the back to get attention from a man. I usually don’t encounter this behavior but I’ve seen it in situations where women believe their youth and looks are their only assets. Years ago, I went on holiday to Ibiza when my best friend was getting a divorce and needed a break. Neither of us are much into clubbing but we felt we needed to go to at least one this holiday for the experience. At first, I was so naïve that I thought the women on the dance floor stepped on my feet with their stilettos by accident, same with the cigarettes burning my arm. But it happened so often and so deliberate that I quickly realized what they were really doing. Luckily, I was already into martial arts and a couple of well placed “accidental” elbow hits were enough for them to back off.

But women can be the most generous and kind friends as well. I have a couple that I would trust with my life. Their friendship is truly “unconditional”. These are educated women that are strong and independent, they don’t fall for the false image that is presented of successful “womanhood” being dependent on how desirable they are to men.

posted August 26, 2022 07:06 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Is Leo not linked to desire and self expression? The creative force or energy we have to create an original anything?
So maybe Mars in Leo may devote themselves to creative outlets?

My little Sis and Father have Mars in Leo. I have Mars in Leo by Draconic.

With my Dad, the creative force comes through the use of sexual energy and attaining gratification through romantic exploits.

With my sister, the creative energy comes through her love of cooking and preparing meals for her family. She really enjoys this "labour of love" because to her ,food is not just food. Its a celebration of flavours etc.

For me, I think this creativity comes through creative writing. In my Draconic chart , Mars in Leo rules my 3rd and 10th house and is conjunct the DSC in Leo from house 6.

I wonder if you have a creative outlet of some sort. Or have inspiration to create something from nothing that excites you?

Because of Mars being "sweat and tears". Its often something that is not complete overnight and needs focus or a lot of attention in completing

Naturally then, blockages of creative expression or being limited in this sphere does tend to aggravate this Mars. Add to this, if nobody appreciates their work of "art" or gives negative feedback or critique.

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Well, I have a couple things I’m passionate about - I’m taking a tarot course, I’m studying another degree in psychology which is very stimulating… but Mars is in my 6th house, so often when I feel a build up one of the things I need to do is clean and rearrange - I always feel better afterwards and like things are in order. But it’s still not as organized as I’d like it to be, so it’s a work in progress.

posted September 05, 2022 02:52 AM            

Beyonce had allegedly acknowledged Kelis, but due to the commotion Kelis created about Beyonce not "getting permission " to use the sample etc. Kelis and the sample were removed from the album.

Kelis has Sun/Moon/Merc/Ven and Jupiter in Leo. Mars is in Cancer (yes). But i find it interesting that this conflict had to do with artistic recognition and getting permission etc.

Mars in Cancer is ruled by Moon in Leo and (by extension) Sun in Leo. And i think it very appropriate for the stellium Leo energy, to be involved in disputes pertaining to artistic integrity and liberties/rights etc.

I would imagine "creative differences", "copyright infringement" or "plagiarism etc. to be linked to Leo energy. This in particular Mars in Leo. Because Leo Mars would fight(Mars) for what they have created (Leo)?

posted September 05, 2022 09:09 AM            

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I would imagine "creative differences", "copyright infringement" or "plagiarism etc. to be linked to Leo energy. This in particular Mars in Leo. Because Leo Mars would fight(Mars) for what they have created (Leo)?

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Who would Mars be fighting?

posted September 05, 2022 12:43 PM            

In Leo Mars' case, it would be anyone who tries to take credit for/plagiarize or steal their work/creative efforts.

I find it highly ironic though that Mars in Leo Donald Trump was said to have "sampled" his inauguration speech from the character "Bane" in "The Dark Knight" 🤔

Maybe Leo also deals with issues of differentiating their craft from those of others? Being careful for taking credit for other's efforts and not giving them due praise for their creative endeavors?

It could be too tempting for Leo to enjoy the glory for themselves and exalt themselves as "iconic". This without acknowledging the influence others had on their (Leo's) creativity and artistic style.

No person is groundbreakingly creative and 100% original. There is nothing new under the Sun.We all borrow here and there from others.

But to supppose yourself the unique carbon copy and "a cut above", is false ego.

Madonna borrowed from Cher as well as from Grace Jones.And a host of others who were less known in her time. Did she acknowledge them?🤔

I was trying to find the infamous "did she or didn't she" story of Sophia Stewart online who claims to have been the author of "The 3rd Eye"- A book that was blatantly plagiarized to create "The Matrix" movies. But to no avail.

I suspect she has Leo planets(if not Mars in Leo). This " works of creativity" war has Leo written all over it.

Another famous Leo writer with a stellium in Virgo is J.K Rowling. She insisted on retaining creative liberties on how her books were translated on to the big screen. This right down to the actors who portrayed the lead roles.

posted September 05, 2022 04:39 PM            

I'd never heard of The Matrix lawsuit, but people are talking about it in the reviews of the book on Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/Third-Eye-Sophia-Stewart/dp/0978539648/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=the+third+eye+sophia&qid=1662410262&sr=8-1

posted September 05, 2022 04:40 PM            

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Don’t bring politics there, most of them are liars. It all depends what news you prefer. It has nothing to do with their personal placements.

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I'd be happy to not bring politics here, but people were fond of bringing it into play when it came to covid, among other things. When the January 6th hearings start again, I'll bump the mundane astrology thread, that was started with rumpy and politics in mind.

posted September 05, 2022 04:41 PM            

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Originally posted by SleepyDiary:
They love to poke holes, even when there is nothing to be poked and just look for a debate. Both signs can be exhausting because of it in my opinion

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Nope. It's funny how this comes up, when someone just says, "That isn't who I am" when something is assigned as a whole, to people with a specific placement. And Aries23 is one of my favourite people here. It isn't hate, or poking.

posted September 05, 2022 04:44 PM            

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Originally posted by PlutoWasHere:
I think women are conditioned to see each other as competition from an early age. .

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I've never actually felt that other women were my enemy. Even though there was a specific group of girls, who made me want to take my own life, so I dropped out of school, I still didn't see them as competition. I just didn't want to deal with it.

That's why I speak up when people say that women are so awful, they gossip and attack each other, and you never get drama from men, when not only history shows us the truth, but also our own personal experiences with men. I know: not all men. But enough of them.

posted September 05, 2022 05:00 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Yes. Virgo/6th house is affiliated with animals. This im particular small ones. So that makes sense

With Capricorn mars, there is often a default stern demeanour or energy that screams "dont you dare" or "just dont". Saturn is restrictive and "No" energy. So these people are often very much aware of boundaries and so are the people interacting with them etc. They are also made aware of the Cap Mars boundaries.

What can be irritating are people breaking or not following rules. Cap Mars welcomes protocols, procedures and rules because they usually trust those rules are there to ensure ordeliness (Sat).

People in authoritative positions abusing their power.This individual in the position of power could be something as mundane as a store manager/supervisor right up to the President.

Don't break the rules or do shifty things in their presense. That really ticks them off. Nor should you tarnish their good name by teasing or embarrassing them publicly in any way.

I see this palcement being BIG on "Law and Order". Not necessarily as the laywer but the procedural/systematic aspect of it etc. They may be more into administrative roles (this especially as Managers,inspectors or quality assurers/specialists)

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i have cap mars in tropical, and this couldn't be more wrong 😁 on so many levels

edit: now that i got a minute i'll explain

i'm pretty bad about setting boundaries, and people are generally invasive with me

people push hard even because i'm not particularly reactive in most cases, i don't care or take things personally generally so i'm hard to have a genuine fight with (on my end anyway, other person can feel **** but i'm not gonna) unless i'm close to or care about someone

it can take years for someone to really set me off and get me to go off on them, because i tend to not care and let things slide for a while and then when it starts to grate on me i let it slide a bit longer until i don't

then it can be pretty bad, but yeah boundaries aren't my strong suit i'm only now learning how to set them and i'm not particularly stern either

abuse of power is ****** , but i'm not gonna get mad over it unless it directly affects me or someone i care about in some way, i see it as par for the course and just human nature it is expected

breaking rules in front of me is fine, particularly if i think the rule is stupid but even if it isn't i'm not necessarily going to give a **** depending on consequences and i'll care even less if there's no consequences to me

i don't believe in upholding laws and rules etc if they don't make any sense to or are stupid in my view, there is no authority for the sake of authority or rules to follow them because they're there mentality in me

i actually find that mindset rather stupid and worthless 🤷‍♀️

if someone does something i personally find bad i'll say as much, but like... not just because of laws or rules or societal values etc it's based on my personal morality not some "objective" thing i point at and go "this is right because it says so"

can't stand that sort of work either, i'm not big on it, it's soul sucking garbage and i see no value there and don't have the demeanor for it anyway

posted September 05, 2022 05:57 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
Nope. It's funny how this comes up, when someone just says, "That isn't who I am" when something is assigned as a whole, to people with a specific placement. And Aries23 is one of my favourite people here. It isn't hate, or poking.

That's one thing I've been aware of, even before someone started messing with me, and others: intentions are ascribed to someone's posts or actions, because of assumptions, when it isn't true. I try not to do that, and I rarely think that Aries23 is being malicious. Neither am I.

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I agreed with what he said about Mercural people i didn’t say that you did that but it can definitivly be a side to them. But you seem to never relate esp when it’s something that’s remotely negative and even if you can’t relate doesn’t mean it can’t be a side to these signs and placements and people have had bad experiences and some wants to complain and some might do that in an immature way and those that do you can just ignore that was my point in that other thread. Aries23 also mentioned once how he had dealt with a Gemini moon that played a lot of games etc and you immediately said no it can’t be that placement because you have the same placement and you are not like that so therefore this placement supposedly can’t have a side like that to them. I respect what Aries23 says because lets be honest he is one of the best ones on here because he really goes in depth into placements and have great insight but as soon as he said something remotely negative about a placement you have in your chart even then you started disagreeing even when it came from someone as insightful as Aries23 and you know he’s not about that surfaced leveled s h i t. You seem to have a hard time seeing any negative qualities and sides with anything you have in your own chart and seem to not understand when other people have seen and experienced it

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YES

This has been a problem for me a few times and it’s so annoying. Even when i make it so obvious i’m not interested they won’t stop until i actually have to say it. Sometimes i envy my 1st house Pluto conjunct Scorpio Rising friend she can have people back off by simply not smiling. I also think i read once with Cancer rising that people might feel comfortable showing a more ‘’immature’’ and even inappropiate sides to them to us because we give out a maternal air about us where we can have people feeling safe and maybe too comfortable around us. I’ve been in some really uncomfortable situations. Like when i came of age I had an old teacher from when i was a teenager start showing interest for me saying some inappropiate things to me that was just so uncomfortable and he didn’t take or maybe didn’t want to take the hint and he used to look at me weirdly when at school. He was also the uncle of a girl i used to hang out with when we were children and he remebered me from the time i spent with her when i first started school.

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i have pluto in scorpio in the 1st in placidus and sextile my sun, but libra rising (conjunct venus and south node) and i think it makes things worse rather than better

i've been followed by a guy begging me to let him buy me a drink, have had plenty of people just touch, be pushy etc

pluto just seems to attract some really ****** up people sometimes