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Aries23Degrees
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posted August 17, 2022 06:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Mars in Libra, i don't know how many situations in life I attract where I have to be the proverbial "peacemaker" or "arbitrator". This is constant. I also attract aggressive types of mates.

My friend has Mars in Aqua, group situations are a strong factor for his anxiety issues. Problems in getting along with people and saying "socially inappropriate" or "offensive" things.

Mars in Gemini(like my sister) can be a victim of gossip and hearsay. Here, Mars can have the individual be the subject of awful rumours. The relationship with siblings/cousins or neighbours can be strained.

Mars in Leo(my other sister & Dad) can have problems with the father and/ or their children being unruly(aggressive kids).They often have to deal with bullying tactics or overbearing personalities imposing themselves on them too.

Mars in Cancer(Mom and friend) can have family issues or a hostile domestic environment. Either living conditions are tenous or they may be constantly exposed to people whose feelings and emotions rule the roost and affect them negatively etc.

What about you?

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posted August 17, 2022 07:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I guess I’m a typical Virgo with my mars there. Detail oriented. Neurotic. Perfectionist. I sacrifice my self a lot. My brain is high strung and high octane. Having said this..my mars also happens to fall in 1H conjunct asc. Exact sextile Uranus and exact parallel to Pluto. Latter makes me volatile, thrill seeking, independent and when I have a goal in mind there’s NOTHING that can, and will, stop me.

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posted August 17, 2022 11:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoWasHere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have my Mars in Cancer but also conjunct Saturn in my 10th house. It takes a lot before I express my anger and when I do, it’s very confrontational. They often say that Cancer Mars cries when angry but that’s not my experience. It actually feels like a switch is turned from being cooperative and understanding to you crossed the line and now you’re in trouble, there is no in between. No more empathy, I’m about to bite your head off. It’s effective because people back off but it’s not pretty and it would have caused less damage if I were able to express my anger more easy, with less shame and frustration.

There definitely is a connection to my childhood. My father had major issues with anger. He could even get violent. It was strangely comforting to see that he had a Scorpio Mars square Leo Pluto and Aries Moon in his birth chart. There was manipulation and there was always this doubt that maybe it was just me making it into a bigger thing than it was. There were moments I stood up to him when I strongly felt the need to protect my mother or younger brother against his anger. I still have that urge of wanting to protect, especially when it comes to my children. I think that’s also very typical of Cancer Mars. To be more triggered by a threat to others than yourself.

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posted August 17, 2022 01:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Charlie. I also notice that Mars in Virgo is especially agitated by bad service or a general lack of professionalism. Are you?

My Lib Sun/Moon friend has Mars in Virgo. I don't think he can bring himself to let another person hold the reins. Very much the control freak.🤔

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Virgo Mars here and yes, lack of professionalism and lack of control in a situation drives me insane!!! I don't have to be in control of the situation myself, but somebody needs to take the reins! And if no one does, I will step up.

I definitely need structure and tidiness to operate, and messiness incapacitates me.

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posted August 17, 2022 01:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
@Charlie. I also notice that Mars in Virgo is especially agitated by bad service or a general lack of professionalism. Are you?

My Lib Sun/Moon friend has Mars in Virgo. I don't think he can bring himself to let another person hold the reins. Very much the control freak.🤔


OMG YES!! Forgot about that! It’s even worse since I run my own companies and I demand nothing less but 100% but I’m most hard on myself. Failure doesn’t exist :-/

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posted August 17, 2022 02:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Yes. In my experience, Mars in Cancer may have grown up in a tense environment or experienced violence in the hands of those that were supposed to be caretakers.

Because the Moon rules emotions,a lot of the energy of Mars here goes into reading what lies beyond the surface. Sensing what is suggested by tone of voice, body language and what is unsaid and is alluded to MORE than what is actually said.

Mars here can keep anger buried in the subconscious mind because the Moon (ruler of Cancer) rules the subconscious and is often hidden and undefined. And so it is often emotionally triggered amd bursts out.

Mike Tyson has Mars in Cancer. And what I notice with him(and Chris Hemsworth) is how easily triggered they can get. If caught in a bad mood or bad day where people were unfriendly or not showing care, that really pi*** them off.

Agressive women(to these men) are specifically antagonizing. They are more likely to forgive an unfriendly man than an unfriendly woman.🤔


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posted August 17, 2022 03:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SleepyDiary     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I have Mars in Libra, i don't know how many situations in life I attract where I have to be the proverbial "peacemaker" or "arbitrator".

Same. I also find selfishness and people that are incapable of putting themselves into another person’s shoes extremely irritating. I have a 4th house Libra mars

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posted August 17, 2022 03:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Same. I also find selfishness and people that are incapable of putting themselves into another person’s shoes extremely irritating. I have a 4th house Libra mars

Yes. Same. Do you find yourself "falling " into relationships rather than seeking them out? People hitting on you OR being very forward and won't take "no" for an answer? Like you have to be a little rude to get them off you or turn them off of you?

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posted August 17, 2022 05:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SleepyDiary     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Yes. Same. Do you find yourself "falling " into relationships rather than seeking them out? People hitting on you OR being very forward and won't take "no" for an answer? Like you have to be a little rude to get them off you or turn them off of you?


YES

This has been a problem for me a few times and it’s so annoying. Even when i make it so obvious i’m not interested they won’t stop until i actually have to say it. Sometimes i envy my 1st house Pluto conjunct Scorpio Rising friend she can have people back off by simply not smiling. I also think i read once with Cancer rising that people might feel comfortable showing a more ‘’immature’’ and even inappropiate sides to them to us because we give out a maternal air about us where we can have people feeling safe and maybe too comfortable around us. I’ve been in some really uncomfortable situations. Like when i came of age I had an old teacher from when i was a teenager start showing interest for me saying some inappropiate things to me that was just so uncomfortable and he didn’t take or maybe didn’t want to take the hint and he used to look at me weirdly when at school. He was also the uncle of a girl i used to hang out with when we were children and he remebered me from the time i spent with her when i first started school.

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posted August 17, 2022 07:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Librapurr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SleepyDiary, if I’m not mistaken you were in a topic about womanly body contours. And I would be surprised if you didn’t get all such of attention and unwanted advances with that body.
I don’t think it’s Libra mars in this situation😊

I knew Libra mars who didn’t appear that approachable for people even she also was attractive. Probably, Scorpio placements made it look less friendly.

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posted August 17, 2022 08:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars in Pisces. Used to be the peacemaker. Still can be, but I’m not as understanding as I used to be.

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Virgo Mars. Nothing makes me more mad than bad treatment of animals. I don’t think I even get that angry when I’m being treated not good.
Some of entertaining videos with animals, I find not funny, but abusive.

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
@Charlie. I also notice that Mars in Virgo is especially agitated by bad service or a general lack of professionalism. Are you?

My Lib Sun/Moon friend has Mars in Virgo. I don't think he can bring himself to let another person hold the reins. Very much the control freak.🤔



I noticed it more with Capricorn mars.

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posted August 18, 2022 02:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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YES

This has been a problem for me a few times and it痴 so annoying. Even when i make it so obvious i知 not interested they won稚 stop until i actually have to say it. Sometimes i envy my 1st house Pluto conjunct Scorpio Rising friend she can have people back off by simply not smiling. I also think i read once with Cancer rising that people might feel comfortable showing a more 葬immature鋳 and even inappropiate sides to them to us because we give out a maternal air about us where we can have people feeling safe and maybe too comfortable around us. I致e been in some really uncomfortable situations. Like when i came of age I had an old teacher from when i was a teenager start showing interest for me saying some inappropiate things to me that was just so uncomfortable and he didn稚 take or maybe didn稚 want to take the hint and he used to look at me weirdly when at school. He was also the uncle of a girl i used to hang out with when we were children and he remebered me from the time i spent with her when i first started school.


Wow. That is hectic . It sounds like downright harassment to me.

I remember (in High school) being pursued by this girl. This until I gave in and thought that she'd eventually
be turned off by me once she discovers how boring I am etc. So I said "yes".

She was not turned off. She fell inlove even deeper🙆🏿‍♂️ And I was very much in the closet. So scared of telling her(or anyone for that matter) what the true state of affairs really was.

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posted August 18, 2022 02:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just remembered this, that Stawr posted. http://youtu.be/yOmvV7MWXlM

A comment there:
“ The "Moral" here is that sometimes you can't turn the other cheek, some people will just take that is a blank check to do what they want to you because you've made it clear you're not going to do anything about it
In the end, sometimes there are situations where you have to fight back”

That covers several things in the past and the present.

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posted August 18, 2022 02:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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SleepyDiary, if I’m not mistaken you were in a topic about womanly body contours. And I would be surprised if you didn’t get all such of attention and unwanted advances with that body.
I don’t think it’s Libra mars in this situation😊

I knew Libra mars who didn’t appear that approachable for people even she also was attractive. Probably, Scorpio placements made it look less friendly.


I have Scorpio placements. It doesn't stop it🤷🏿‍♂️. It just makes one look very "mysterious"- which kinda adds to the overall attractiveness(ironically).

Venus ruling Mars blunts the sharpness of Mars energy and turns it into something that is less menacing or intimidating(or scarring). Because Libra is 7 signs away from Aries and 12 signs away from Sco(Mars co-rules Sco), there is a sense (from others) that the native has no clear boundaries. And others can just overstep.

So Mars in Libra often has to be extra assertive. This was the case with Nelsom Mandela who responded quickly to ANY form of perceived disrespect (this to a point of being antagonistic and angry).

Such an individual can appear very defensive and touchy. Quick to lose their cool or easily irritable. Mandela once infamously slapped Thabo Mbeki(then Deputy President). The world doesn't know this side of him because he is an iconic symbol of "peace" etc.

Boxing Champion Anthony Johnson has the charming Libra Sun conjunct his Mars in Libra. He is known for his good looks (Sun Lib) and relaxed demeanour (Tau). But I wouldn't exactly test his patience.

His Mars in Libra is in the duad of Aries. So he is quick to get annoyed or irritable when he perceives disrespect. That Mars/Sun conj also guarantees a very swift response to any challenge.

Should an individual with Libra Mars appear or act in a more menacing way than this typical position suggests,you can be 99.9% certain that it is likely that they have had experiences where their boundaries have been severely tested. So they do the extreme "other"( behave in a Martial Aries way) in order to assert themselves.

'Toxic masculinity ' could be the result of the energy when off balance. Or someone who is just plain catty,petty and mean.

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posted August 18, 2022 02:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoWasHere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:

Agressive women(to these men) are specifically antagonizing. They are more likely to forgive an unfriendly man than an unfriendly woman.🤔



Interesting, because of my childhood I am very aware of male aggression but thinking about it, I’ve encountered more female aggression than male. Not physical, but always “mean girl” type of behavior. I thought it was my Pluto in 1st house but maybe Cancer Mars attracts emotional/female conflicts?

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Mars in Pisces. Used to be the peacemaker. Still can be, but I’m not as understanding as I used to be.

Mars in Pisces (like Mars in Libra) can struggle with assertiveness and drawing boundaries that others don't overstep.

I have seen two types who have this position.

The 1st type tends to be heavy on Neptune related things i.e. spirituality, artistry, music, partying, etc.

These folks don't distinguish between themselves and their craft. Its almost like they merge into one thing and they are not separate personalities outside what they do or what their artistic expression is.

I often think that Mars in Pisces is often looking for an idea, a career, a belief or hobby etc. to "merge" with.People often speak of Scorpio obsession. But Pisces can give the latter a run for their money because Pis doesn't just seek to "do". No. It wants to merge/ be consumed or completely embalmed in it. Separation of craft from self becomes impossible or improbable.

Mars in Pisces Boby Dylan is an example of this. His music is part and parcel of his mysterious celebrity status.Does anybody know anything about him really outside of his artistry? Is he even still alive?

The other types tend to be BIG on their masculinity and will constantly emphasize that every chance they get i.e. "a real man would ..." blah blah or be very pro "alpha male" in their mentality(guys specifically).

I think they do this to reiterate what was said about the perceived lack of boundaries i.e. if I emphasize the boundaries on to others, they will be clearer to me too etc.

Tha latter example is Andrew Tate who is the outspoken "pro" masculine former MMA fighter with very archaic (almost tone deaf) views on what a woman or man "should" be etc.

Here the disputes one may encounter are with regards to privacy violations (again the encroachment of boundaries) e.g Airport luggage checks, being stopped and searched by the police,admin procedures and protocols that are very restrictive when(for instance) coming in or outside a place of business/country etc. Anything that doesn't allow them to "flow free" is annoying.

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posted August 18, 2022 04:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Virgo Mars. Nothing makes me more mad than bad treatment of animals.

Yes. Virgo/6th house is affiliated with animals. This im particular small ones. So that makes sense

With Capricorn mars, there is often a default stern demeanour or energy that screams "dont you dare" or "just dont". Saturn is restrictive and "No" energy. So these people are often very much aware of boundaries and so are the people interacting with them etc. They are also made aware of the Cap Mars boundaries.


What can be irritating are people breaking or not following rules. Cap Mars welcomes protocols, procedures and rules because they usually trust those rules are there to ensure ordeliness (Sat).

People in authoritative positions abusing their power.This individual in the position of power could be something as mundane as a store manager/supervisor right up to the President.

Don't break the rules or do shifty things in their presense. That really ticks them off. Nor should you tarnish their good name by teasing or embarrassing them publicly in any way.

I see this palcement being BIG on "Law and Order". Not necessarily as the laywer but the procedural/systematic aspect of it etc. They may be more into administrative roles (this especially as Managers,inspectors or quality assurers/specialists)

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
[b]…

Agressive women(to these men) are specifically antagonizing. They are more likely to forgive an unfriendly man than an unfriendly woman.🤔



Interesting, because of my childhood I am very aware of male aggression but thinking about it, I’ve encountered more female aggression than male. Not physical, but always “mean girl” type of behavior. I thought it was my Pluto in 1st house but maybe Cancer Mars attracts emotional/female conflicts?[/B][/QUOTE]

Ime, Most women are unfriendly because the world is harsh to them. I wouldn't be friendly either in a world where I am harrassed sexually when walking down the street.

Nor would I show a lot of camaraderie towards other women if its drummed into me (from when young) that other women are my "competition" and that I have "this much time" by years to get it together i.e. have kids, career and home . All with minimum assistance from the prized 🍆 I am supposed to cherish and treat as both a man and 1st born child. Hell,I'd be pi**d off too.🤷🏿‍♂️

So I really don't blame women for being rude or learning bullying behaviour and passive-aggressive tactics etc. Because this is a world where fighting and "clap backs" are the order of the day.

Aint nobody got time for all that "sensitivity" stuff. And Mars in Cancer women are often aware that their sensitivity could easily be misconstrued as their "weakness". So there are some who act defensive and shield all that up under layers of itchiness and nastiness at times. True. I do see that happen a lot.☝🏿

# sidenote.

Its interesting that Chris Hemsworth's wife is a Cancer Sun to his Mars in Cancer. Cancer Mars men tend to love to play the "protector " role or be the "muscle bound hero" who comes to the rescue of the damsel/gentleman in distress.

She(Hemsworth's wife) also has Aries Moon. And so for me it aligns to my thinking that this Mars sign may be angered by abrasive women on one hand.But is very much turned on by them(on the other).🤔

Water Mars sexuality can be very layered as it is often tied with anger and emotions.

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posted August 18, 2022 06:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"I have Mars in Libra, i don't know how many situations in life I attract where I have to be the proverbial "peacemaker" or "arbitrator". This is constant. I also attract aggressive types of mates."


This could have been written by my mother who has this Mars sign

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Mars in Pisces (like Mars in Libra) can struggle with assertiveness and drawing boundaries that others don't overstep.

I have seen two types who have this position.

The 1st type tends to be heavy on Neptune related things i.e. spirituality, artistry, music, partying, etc.

These folks don't distinguish between themselves and their craft. Its almost like they merge into one thing and they are not separate personalities outside what they do or what their artistic expression is.

I often think that Mars in Pisces is often looking for an idea, a career, a belief or hobby etc. to "merge" with.People often speak of Scorpio obsession. But Pisces can give the latter a run for their money because Pis doesn't just seek to "do". No. It wants to merge/ be consumed or completely embalmed in it. Separation of craft from self becomes impossible or improbable.

Mars in Pisces Boby Dylan is an example of this. His music is part and parcel of his mysterious celebrity status.Does anybody know anything about him really outside of his artistry? Is hes still alive?

The other types tend to be BIG om their masculinity and will constantly emphasize that every chance they get i.e. "a real man would ..." blah blah or be very pro "alpha male" in their mentality(guys specifically).

I think they do this to reiterate what was said about the perceived lack of boundaries i.e. if I emphasize the boundaries on to others, they will be clearer to me too etc.

Tha latter example is Andrew Tate who is the outspoken "pro" masculine former MMA fighter with very archaic (almost tone deaf) views on what a woman "should" be and a man "should" be etc.

Here the disputes one may encounter are with regards to privacy violations (again the encroachment of boundaries) e.g Airport luggage checks, being stopped and searched by the police,admin procedures and protocols that are very restrictive when(for instance) coming in or outside a place of business/country etc. Anything that doesn't allow them to "flow free" is annoying.



Spot on. Especially the last sentence.
Also, I detest Andrew Tate. I hated his face before I even knew what he stands for.

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posted August 18, 2022 08:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Spot on. Especially the last sentence.
Also, I detest Andrew Tate. I hated his face before I even knew what he stands for.

I DO NOT like this guy.You understand?He absolutely repels me to the core. I am so ashamed that he is a Sag Sun🤦🏿‍♂️

I think he does all that he does for publicity. Uranus conj his Sun(shock tactics) and Moon in Gemini square Jup/Mars suggests that he tends to exaggerate and be overconfident in his utterances. Very righteous!

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"I have Mars in Libra, i don't know how many situations in life I attract where I have to be the proverbial "peacemaker" or "arbitrator". This is constant. I also attract aggressive types of mates."


This could have been written by my mother who has this Mars sign


💛💛💛💛. Its very draining.

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posted August 18, 2022 09:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I DO NOT like this guy.You understand?He absolutely repels me to the core. I am so ashamed that he is a Sag Sun🤦🏿‍♂️

I think he does all that he does for publicity. Uranus conj his Sun(shock tactics) and Moon in Gemini square Jup/Mars suggests that he tends to exaggerate and be overconfident in his utterances. Very righteous!


I read he also runs a web camming business in Romania where women are forced to work for him. If that's true that makes him even more disgusting. Ew.

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