posted September 05, 2022 06:40 PM            

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Originally posted by Librapurr:

I noticed it more with Capricorn mars.

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i hate being in control of anything other than myself ultimately, i dislike the weight of having that sort of thing on me

if someone else wants to be in charge that's good by me, if i have to be i will, but i don't care that much

posted September 05, 2022 09:54 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
I would love it if disagreements were settled like this: http://youtu.be/i2lpV4uopr4

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i'd rather argue

posted September 05, 2022 10:44 PM            

with friends generally the same thing either we don't fight or when we do it's resolved quickly (except for one but she didn't know how to **** off about prying into personal **** ) and doesn't escalate far

have been told by everyone that i can be very cold and businesslike when i'm hurt or upset (i don't generally get angry, it's a foreign emotion for me in most cases) which is true, i can hit a point where i just feel numb and stop caring

if im arguing but dont actually care or feel invested after a while i'll just push buttons, be difficult, say dumb **** etc to entertain myself once i've decided the person and argument etc isn't worth any time or effort

it's not that i need the last word (unless i can tell the other person cares a lot about getting it then i need it desperately and will openly say i'm going to be petty and get it) it's that i can't help but respond if i'm being engaged

pure compulsion and then it's stimulation aside from that

i generally hate to deal with anything i don't have to so if it isn't important then i need it to be amusing on some level or just not too much of a hassle at least

if it's boring, difficult, or pointless i'll drop it and not care after a bit

i'm pretty easy for most people to get along with and in most situations dont have issues

it's a matter of investment for me, if there isn't some kind of connection between me and someone else then i'm not gonna bother

i can sometimes match the other person's energy/intensity if they catch me by surprise though or i can get loud if like someone doesnt let **** drop after ive made accommodations and attempted to step away multiple times etc i usually tell them though "you're starting to get me mad" and then if they push past that 🤷‍♀️

had a huge argument with a lady at my last job because after i agreed to do things her way (the wrong way and an inconvenience for everyone except her, but especially for me i just didn't feel like arguing with her and could tell she wouldn't budge) and tried to get things done the way she insisted she kept trying to talk about it

asking me repeatedly "what's your problem?" getting in my face... good 5 minutes of that while i tried to just do what she wanted so she'd shut the **** up and we could "finish" what we had to do and i eventually told her she was starting to **** me off which she took as a cue to get way too close and yell at me so i yelled back

held my tongue though because the only thought in my head was "well now i know why your son killed himself having to deal with you as a mother" but instead i just told her she was a stupid **** and to shut the **** up etc generic ****

everyone was surprised by it and no one took her side because i'm very easy to work with and **** , she then isolated herself from everyone and quit soon after

posted September 05, 2022 11:23 PM            

part of those rounds was always supposed to be checking o2 levels and temperatures, which she was ****** over because she felt it would take too long (we had a while before her shift officially ended, there was time) she wanted me to do the rounds and then wake people up a second time for that **** when she was done (i was working the overnight shift)

told her that didn't make any sense, and wasn't right to do etc but she kept insisting and standing out in the hall wasting time in spite of insisting that she be present for the rounds

i said "whatever i'll do it later then" and went to keep walking to do rounds the stupid and inconvenient for everyone else way for her, but she got ****** that i was trying to keep **** moving and that i was holding stuff to do temps and o2 readings etc because i wasn't going to walk back to the office to come back to a place i already was

so while i was trying to just do what she wanted she was trying to keep me in the hall to have some ******* discussion repeating what she heard in a meeting that was stupid and pointless anyway, didn't update me on any of the residents or do anything helpful really but kept acting like i was refusing to do rounds with her

just straight up wasting more time as she complained about time when she was already ******* up everyone's night with her stupid **** , but i would've let that all slide if she didn't get loud and close and continue to say "well what's your problem?" over and over again

genuinely didn't care what management said because if someone is being useless they're not necessary for me to speak to about anything (and they werent there), cared about the impending future inconvenience but not enough to fight over it, and attempted to give the dumb ***** what she wanted even though it was ass backwards

the line crossed for me was not leaving me alone about it and just shutting up and moving on

posted September 06, 2022 03:43 AM            

Yes. She apparently also had the "Terminator" movie idea stolen from her.

posted September 06, 2022 04:06 AM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
i have cap mars in tropical, and this couldn't be more wrong 😁 on so many levels

edit: now that i got a minute i'll explain

i'm pretty bad about setting boundaries, and people are generally invasive with me

people push hard even because i'm not particularly reactive in most cases, i don't care or take things personally generally so i'm hard to have a genuine fight with (on my end anyway, other person can feel **** but i'm not gonna) unless i'm close to or care about someone

it can take years for someone to really set me off and get me to go off on them, because i tend to not care and let things slide for a while and then when it starts to grate on me i let it slide a bit longer until i don't

then it can be pretty bad, but yeah boundaries aren't my strong suit i'm only now learning how to set them and i'm not particularly stern either

abuse of power is ****** , but i'm not gonna get mad over it unless it directly affects me or someone i care about in some way, i see it as par for the course and just human nature it is expected

breaking rules in front of me is fine, particularly if i think the rule is stupid but even if it isn't i'm not necessarily going to give a **** depending on consequences and i'll care even less if there's no consequences to me

i don't believe in upholding laws and rules etc if they don't make any sense to or are stupid in my view, there is no authority for the sake of authority or rules to follow them because they're there mentality in me

i actually find that mindset rather stupid and worthless 🤷‍♀️

if someone does something i personally find bad i'll say as much, but like... not just because of laws or rules or societal values etc it's based on my personal morality not some "objective" thing i point at and go "this is right because it says so"

can't stand that sort of work either, i'm not big on it, it's soul sucking garbage and i see no value there and don't have the demeanor for it anyway

the interpretations of cap mars and how unrelatable i find it repeatedly always intrigue me

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It always intrigues me that Mars in Virgo/Mars in Cap are consistently the first to highlight how "wrong" something is.

I guess it kinda fits because BOTH are (after all) the editors and editor-in-chief respectively of the zodiac.

So they often give disapproving headmistress vibes with their circling with red pens and notes on the side of the page. I have Mercury in Cap. I do the above often and have to stop myself
from being so focused on the "wrong". 🤔

This was an observation on personal experiences. Not at all a sweeping statement for all Cap Mars people.

Have you considered conjunctions, oppositions or parallel/contra parallel aspects that may change yours?

Mars finds it exalted place in Cap. And Cap is ruled by Saturn. Saturn is boundaries(either societal boundaries or yourown). But Saturn is about propriety & restraint.

From an impersonal point of view,this can be the "law and order" of the land
Or from a personal point of view, the adherence to self "law and order".

Mars in Cap (because of exalted position) can emphasize the Cap energy of "keeping to the doctrine". This whether the doctrine is external or internal. There is always usually a "rule book" that is followed by Cap Mars.

I have yet to meet a Cap Mars who isn't about "restraint". Not to say that this position is prudish. But they are rarely unclear about self-control and how to be "proper". They are highly deliberate and not "lets be liberal", go with the flow of our feelings or emotions -types at all.

With Mars in Cap,you can protest against something. But there is procedure and a course in the "right" way to do it. The rules are always there either intrinsically or through some statute. Being "random" OR going with the impulse of the moment etc. Is not it☝🏿

Martin Luther King(Sun in Cap)& Malcolm X(Mars in Cancer) often disagreed with each other on their approaches to demanding civil rights.

Malcolm was more emotionally driven and revolutionary (Mars /Plu in 7th). And King was more strategic(Cap Sun) and cerebral (Mars in Gemini)

The only time that I noticed an absence of boundaries or a restrictive aura in this position or where the native just seemed to be "all over the place " energy-wise etc. was when I met a Cap Mars who had an opposition with Cancer Jupiter.

Here the energies of the native were up/down. And he had issues with his temper( a strong indication of lack of restraint(Sat)) Later however,he was diagnosed as bi-polar.

With this opposition, i feel like had i known more astrologically at the time.It could have been clearer to me very early on as to what was really going on.

He was very defensive as a personality. A rigorous and highly devoted gym buff of note(I guess Sat was trying to show up in a more orderly fashion this way). And quite harsh to his then girlfiend and now wife.

In his case, the Cancer energy showed itself up(in extreme ways) again and again through behaviour that was based off of feelings(water) i.e. easily offended and getting into fist fights, a "macho" persona, a tendency to "flip" very suddenly into a dark mood spell etc.

posted September 06, 2022 04:33 AM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
i've had people get mad at me for being too calm during fights, mainly 2 exes (only the 2 women i was with because i argue with most of the guys, but 🤷‍♀️ just how it went), current guy i have a thing with is very calm generally when we do fight about anything it's always like argument, cool down, and then talk about it and how to handle things better etc then approach it all differently (but i'm closer to him than i've ever been to anyone)

with friends generally the same thing either we don't fight or when we do it's resolved quickly (except for one but she didn't know how to **** off about prying into personal **** ) and doesn't escalate far

have been told by everyone that i can be very cold and businesslike when i'm hurt or upset (i don't generally get angry, it's a foreign emotion for me in most cases) which is true, i can hit a point where i just feel numb and stop caring

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posted September 06, 2022 07:10 AM            

should no one say if something doesn't fit them if we're on a site where astrology discussion happens? i don't really understand the point of that statement, most people when something doesn't fit will say as much, and that's the kind of the whole point isn't it? to describe personal experiences and thoughts mixed with knowledge to paint a cohesive picture and learn

i won't bother when it comes to you i guess if it's an issue and you want to just say things and have them stand with no further input, seems like a pointless way to interact on a forum for this sort of thing though

the entire point in saying "i find this unfitting" (and i mentioned i'm not sure what in my chart offsets my mars so strongly, because i often find people's explanations of it very alienating to the placement, and it's the biggest reason why i looked into other systems personally when i first learned astrology) is to share another perspective and experience etc

obviously you can only go by your personal experiences, but it's not like people don't read this **** to try to learn, so the experiences of others becomes important in that regard

if you're saying a bunch of accurate dead on **** , i'm more than happy to be like "yeah that's true" and illustrate why, but sometimes there's no point in that other than wasted energy because all the facts are there

i don't personally use the tropical system or placidus, which is the standard here, so when i talk it's generally from a place of me meeting someone else where they're at and disregarding what i've personally put more time into and use

it's not hyperfocusing on the wrong, it's sharing a different side of the experience and to paint a broader picture, stopping myself would do what? prevent people from seeing more sides to something and thus being able to add depth to their own knowledge? where's the point?

however, if you personally dislike that to a point where you think it's something that should be stopped i won't do that with you and just step away from discussion, i barely use this site anyway because i don't personally feel like my personality and who i am is a very good fit for here and feel a huge lack of connection to nearly everyone here

i'm not one for self control or restraint really, i do make emotional decisions and often and i feel like a person's emotional world is extremely important because that's a huge part of the experience of life

i'm not a restrained person and even if i'm behaving coldly that's also coming from an emotional place because i don't get there without being hurt or upset

no one in my day to day life would say i was particularly disciplined or not emotional etc in rare instances i can run cold but most people don't see that

i frequently go with impulses and emotions, i make decisions based on what "feels right" at the time and i've lived my life following signs i get in dreams and vibes etc and have for years

i feel like life happens and going with it is part of the experience and so i often do

sometimes there needs to be restraint, and there isn't room for my feelings in my actions but the experience of them is still a thing that's very important to acknowledge and experience etc

i'm not a calculated person

i've been pretty open about my past with drug use and just going wherever life has taken me and seeing what's up

the way i live is often reflective of my spiritual views and occult practices along with gut feelings etc

if something intrigues me i'll look into it exhaustively for a bit then drop it for the next thing repeat and sometimes being interested or wanting to do something isn't enough for me to be capable of focus

i'm definitely one to run out of steam and then drop something entirely, i'm not the type to pursue something if i'm just not feeling it even when it's important sometimes (if someone other than me is part of the equation then i will even if i'm not up to it just because it's not about me then it's about someone else, but for myself this doesn't hold true)

if i get excited or into something i'll throw myself in it completely, but the second that feeling is gone (whether it's an hour or months in whatever) i'm done

i'm very much the type to leave a good deal unfinished, but i don't feel bothered by that because if i can't bring myself to complete something it was only temporarily important anyway and the experience in the moment is enough

anyway i'll shut up now and i won't bother with any further input, doesn't seem particularly welcome here so no point in devoting more time than i have

posted September 06, 2022 09:45 AM            

Anyways, to carry the discussion on. I rarely expect posts made on Lindaland (especially when Mars/Mercury are involved) to go without robust debate. It is fitting because when one makes a post about the above, they almost invariably invite Ares(Mars) and Hermes (Merc)into the mix 🤷🏿‍♂️.

In Chaldean astrology, 3rd house is associated with Mars.And Mars rejoices in Vir affiliated 6th house (Hellenistic Astrology).In Hellenistic Astrology,Merc finds joy in the Aries affiliated 1st house.

In esoteric astrology,Merc (affiliated with the 3rd house) rules Aries(Mars). And that means that discourse (3rd) invites possible discord (Mars).🤷🏿‍♂️

This Mars thread WILL get heated and have people disagree. Its expected. As would be for others to be defensive. That's expected too.

People will dissect(Mars) & inspect( Merc). And (as I said) my observations were personal and not a "one blanket fits all" for Mars in Cap.

I noted that in sites I go on , that once an Astrologer starts dissecting Virgo or Cap placements, WOWZA!🤣🤣 Its like all the armchair editors come out of woodwork. This especially with Virgo.

Astrologer Liz Greene (Vir Sun/Merc) does a lot of preemptive writing in her books. And i used to wonder why?

I think now i know that she may be doing that to relax criticism or address nuances and differentiators that she assumes her audience will critique her on overlooking?

The statement about Caps and Virgos was not intended as an insult to you personally/ anyone else. Nor suggesting that you shouldn't contribute. It was an observation and pattern I see.

I think Linda's Editor was a Sun in Cap. And she(Linda) would resent how she (editor) would "tweak" her writing before publishing.

But in the end, she (Linda) did admit that the "tweaking" clarified the message and saved them many pages of endless rambling. So Cap does cut through the bull***. This especially when on Mars. Sometimes painfully and so abruptly, others get offended. 🤷🏿‍♂️

What you said there about your Mars is consistent with what I have observed and experienced too. This is Saturn operating.

But much like my Aries Asc may not purely express the Martian qualities consistently for me. I do note that the opposition of Mars in Libra and squares of Moon/Merc to the Asc, do present a challenge for authentic Ares expression.

Hence i disagreed for a long time that my Asc was in Aries. As ut seemed more fitting for it to be in Taurus (even Pisces).

That's why i asked if there are oppositions and squares to your Mars? Because if a majority of the sites you go on misinterpret this placement for you or you find the explanations unrelatable, there could perhaps be other energies at work that influence the Mars in Cap expression?

Dad has Mars in Cap. During the Apartheid years, he was part of a group of radicals that supported the ANC(he now absolutely abhors the latter mentioned political organisation passionately)

He has had many jobs in his life. But is not one for authority figures or following rules. Nor is he a consistent person i.e. one minute he is busy with this project. The next, he is off starting another.

For him , the Mars in Cap definition (at face value ) is not true.But upon closer inspection, something else crops up.

One way it does show, is that many of his subordinates on past projects talk about what a CONSUMATE professional he is on the job. He expects others to adhere to his work ethic. And is very diligent.

And the reason his projects stop and start,is also reflected in his natal-which then manifests to reality.

Dad has Moon/Mercury contra parallel disruptive Uranus. So these stops and starts are often quite uncomfortable for him. And he has had to make way for surprises and changing gears midway.

His Mars in Cap is also "out of bounds".And this can also make him appear "radical" or "erratic" in his actions.

My Dad is fiery and hot-tempered. Not all that restrained or contained in appearance. And his Mars conjuncts his Moon(hot emotions).

So there are other factors that play down the stoicism expected from Cap Mars considerably.

But even with all this said, he can surprise me by being the parent who takes full responsibility for his kids and is more present for them( disciplinarian and nurturer)

Despite his resistance (Aqua), He actually takes responsibility quite seriously. And once he decides to commit(disruptions and all), he will get to the finish line eventually.

posted September 06, 2022 10:39 PM            

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Originally posted by SleepyDiary:
I agreed with what he said about Mercural people i didn’t say that you did that but it can definitivly be a side to them. But you seem to never relate esp when it’s something that’s remotely negative and even if you can’t relate doesn’t mean it can’t be a side to these signs and placements and people have had bad experiences and some wants to complain and some might do that in an immature way and those that do you can just ignore that was my point in that other thread. Aries23 also mentioned once how he had dealt with a Gemini moon that played a lot of games etc and you immediately said no it can’t be that placement because you have the same placement and you are not like that so therefore this placement supposedly can’t have a side like that to them. I respect what Aries23 says because lets be honest he is one of the best ones on here because he really goes in depth into placements and have great insight but as soon as he said something remotely negative about a placement you have in your chart even then you started disagreeing even when it came from someone as insightful as Aries23 and you know he’s not about that surfaced leveled s h i t. You seem to have a hard time seeing any negative qualities and sides with anything you have in your own chart and seem to not understand when other people have seen and experienced it

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I know my faults, and don't mind hearing about actual personal experience. There are people who assign blame for something, to everyone with a particular placement, and have decided that what they say goes.

posted September 06, 2022 10:39 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
i'd rather argue

guess season 3 is even worse than 2

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No, I liked it.

posted September 06, 2022 10:55 PM            

One thing with me, is that if I've had a massive argument with someone I'm close to, I can't just let it go anymore. Or someone I feel somewhat close to, but then I've felt like someone could be a good friend, when I'm just at a distance, and an acquaintance to them. When I argued with someone that I'd known for years, last year - last Summer - it stressed me out, a lot, and I was also really upset. Partly because of the gaslighting on their part - a choice, based on politics - but also because of what they said *about* me, after they'd got personal. They got even more personal, and I was just done. They wanted to keep going, and I just wanted to stop, and take care of my dog, because it was obvious that they just wanted to score points. They'd gone too far, and wanted to hurt me even more. I didn't want to do that to them. I was exhausted, and couldn't take much more of anything stressful. My body and mind couldn't handle anymore, and they still can't, so I should be more careful.

Something I said to them, could have been seen as passive-aggressive, but I just came to a realization, and typed it out as I thought it.

Anyway, I still can't really talk to them, without feeling P!SSED. There was no apology, no understanding of anything. I used to be the one to apologize as soon as possible, because I hate fighting, and never wanted to be hurtful. I just wanted things to be okay. I was the one to bring back the peace. I'm not so good at that anymore, because things got to a point where that just wasn't going to happen. I can still care about someone, I just don't particularly like them at the moment. My emotions are still *right there*. It isn't okay, so I can't pretend otherwise.

But as long as I'm feeling that defensiveness, I can't just talk about other things. I can't let it go. I try, and then I have to go back to avoiding, because I feel this strong anger, but I don't want to argue. I want to talk about things, but if nothing has changed, the atmosphere isn't going to change for that discussion, either. It will be a blow-up.

I still sometimes have nightmares about fighting physically with my sister, or about her bringing her husband here, and I have no choice in the matter. I wake up so tense. I feel that same tension when dealing with a few people, because things weren't resolved in a good way, if at all.

Mars in Pisces, square Moon/Venus/Nodes, trine Uranus/ascendant, biquintile Pluto.

posted September 06, 2022 11:03 PM            

I will sometimes start questioning, so that I'm not on the defensive. I get curious instead.

posted September 06, 2022 11:29 PM            

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Thats the bad part, I have to really sit and think what is bothering me or upsetting me and why. Where does it come from , does it belong to me or the other person. I have a bad temper so I tend to get mad really fast , blow up and then later regret why I just didn't handle it differently. I am getting better at it but it still takes practice.

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I used to write things down, go back and forth in a disagreement, or situation. I’d write it all out, until I felt I had it sorted.

posted September 07, 2022 08:03 AM            

I think your Mars is very reactive. You might want to look into that as it sounds like you may be a very prickly person as a result of that.

Sometimes when other people trigger us, it says more about where our centre is than what they are doing. In other words when we are "reactive",that suggests that we have given our self control over to others to play with(like a joystick). And they will enjoy pressing our buttons 🤷🏿‍♂️.

Mars accentuated like that in your case may need to consciously track and avoid bottleneck sitiations. And really understand their stance with regards to relating to others. Because if not, you may grow to be triggered by everything.

This is not meaning that we should be numb and capitulate in oppositional situations- thinking that that is us being "chill".

Mars in Tau/Lib/Can and Pis can be this way at times. And that is not the way to go -as Mars will not agree to that. It will focus on expressing itself more passively. Sometimes this resistance can build to outright rage(over time)

That is when these guys can resort to 'silent treatment' to make their point or being "snippy" with other things-instead of addressing the situation directly.

They deny anger, clench their teeth and say that they are "over it". When in actual fact, what they've done is cut themselves off from that person or insulated themselves from peopld(which is what you are now doing).

But at any given moment,they can be triggered by anything. An "ungrateful" person, a "rude" stranger, a "belligerent" officer or "slow" internet connection. Anything at all (no matter how small or insignificant)can have them mutate into "Karen/Ken".

Moon-Venus square presents challenges in relationships.But I think the foreground for that is already your Moon-Mars square. Because the latter already makes getting close to people a painful and defensive situation.

I look at a planet squaring, opp, conj the nodes as an additional angular point. And so transits to that planet may (in addition to the asc/Dsc, Mc/Ic axis) trigger events.

Look to see what happens there and you may find that anger(Mars) is often a recurring theme in those events. Or atleast an irritable nature(if not from you, then it can be from others in response to you).Which then influences you otherwise etc.

I have Uranus opp North node(5 degree orb). Anytime a planet transits the degree orb between natal Uranus and North node, something occurs( and it has a strong Uranus feel to it). This includes declinations (I use the tight 1 degree orb for declinations).

Saturn/Uranus both transited that point in 2016(Mars too). And the event that transpired , changed my life irreversibly.

posted September 07, 2022 10:43 AM            

glad to hear you're hopeful, though i'm sorry to hear it's after other **** , but at least there's good to come your way

i didn't take what you said as a personal attack or an insult, it was more that you stated it was a personal shortcoming of yours and one you try to avoid

to me that says "this is undesirable" and a behavior you try to control in yourself is likely one you don't appreciate in others when directed at you

so my thing was just as simple as i'll treat you by whatever measure you would want to be treated which i would assume would be without the things you try to stop within yourself

usually if someone has an issue with their own stuff and tries to stop that, then it's something that bothers them when it's directed at them so i didn't want to put you in a position where you're unhappy about what's expressed

sometimes people just want to say their bit and have it be left alone and i'm comfortable with respecting that if it seems that way

so thank you for clearing that up

my mars is square my moon, square my venus (so it's square my ascendant and descendant axis since i have venus on ascendant and moon on my descendant and as a result also square my nodes which are on that axis as well with north node being conjunct moon/descendant and south being conjunct ascendant/venus) loosely opposite my midheaven,loosely conjunct my ic, and loosely conjunct neptune

it sits in my 3rd or 4th house depending on the house system (3rd in placidus)

so it's part of a t-square that's attached to a kite (my moon/descendant/north node are trine both uranus and mercury which both sextile my ascendant/venus/south node)

i will say i've noticed with heavy cap placements (particularly sun/moon/ascendant/mercury) i have to alter my language a good deal to please them when i give readings and for a long time i would dread it

i've learned though over time how to work with that, haven't noticed this issue with people who have venus, mars or an outer planet there though

they just approach the world and life with a very different mindset than me, so when i say something they might take it as more negative than they see it

mild language tweak later and they'll agree

posted September 07, 2022 10:46 AM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
No, I liked it.

I don't like arguing. It isn't fun. It doesn't make me feel good, and is too stressful.

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i don't like arguing when i care and it matters, but i'd definitely rather argue than have life be like that scene lol

i didn't like the 2nd season at all so i have had zero interest in the 3rd

i don't watch much anyway, and especially not on my own i would need someone else to put it on and that's unlikely unless i'm spending time with my younger brother for a bit and he hasn't seen it

posted December 30, 2022 09:10 PM            

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Originally posted by PlutoWasHere:
I have my Mars in Cancer but also conjunct Saturn in my 10th house. It takes a lot before I express my anger and when I do it very confrontational. They often say that Cancer Mars cries when angry but that’s not my experience. It actually feels like a switch is turned from being cooperative and understanding to you crossed the line and now you’re in trouble, there is no in between. No more empathy, I’m about to bite your head off. It’s effective because people back off but it’s not pretty and it would have caused less damage if I were able to express my anger more easy, with less shame and frustration.

There definitely is a connection to my childhood. My father had major issues with anger. He could even get violent. It was strangely comforting to see that he had a Scorpio Mars square Leo Pluto and Aries Moon in his birth chart. There was manipulation and there was always this doubt that maybe it was just me making it into a bigger thing than it was. There were moments I stood up to him when I strongly felt the need to protect my mother or younger brother against his anger. I still have that urge of wanting to protect, especially when it comes to my children. I think that’s also very typical of Cancer Mars. To be more triggered by a threat to others than yourself.

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posted December 31, 2022 04:02 AM            

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I would love it if disagreements were settled like this: http://youtu.be/i2lpV4uopr4

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Teasel this is hilarious. And I kind of agree.

I have to think hard what makes me mad. Is it everything, or is nothing? I'm not sure.

Is mad the same as disgusted, or disappointed, or saddened?

What often makes me mad is people's intentions. If they have nefarious intentions it makes me mad.

Also stupidity and ignorance.

But I generally suffer in silence because it seems unproductive to draw attention to it, and I know that everyone's different.
12H Sag Mars.

posted December 31, 2022 04:37 AM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
I cry and yell. I try not to be hurtful, but I occasionally will be. I used to be very protective of my mother, too. She dated more than one man who was awful. Was engaged to them, too. She had Mars conjunct Pluto, and had a temper of her own, but I still felt protective of her. I had to be, with my sister, who was more of the type to look for trouble, so I guess I shouldn't be surprised by the man she married.

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The frustration of someone close to you, spiraling into self destructive behavior, is excruciating. I see you have experienced it too. My parents were alcoholics, depressed and there was the occasional domestic violence. My brother is a drug addict and has a debilitating mental illness. I tried so very hard to “save” them. In the end, the only person I could save was myself, by detaching from whatever harm they were doing to themselves. It actually was astrology that gave me the biggest peace of mind. They have their own lessons, their own journey for spiritual growth. I can’t do it for them. The acceptance has liberated me. I no longer feel responsible for their fate.

posted December 31, 2022 06:31 AM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
i hate being in control of anything other than myself ultimately, i dislike the weight of having that sort of thing on me

if someone else wants to be in charge that's good by me, if i have to be i will, but i don't care that much

i also don't really mind making mistakes they're ways to learn so no need for perfection (on the rare occasion something is very important to me i will be very crushed by a bad outcome but 🤷‍♀️ not most of the time, i don't necessarily ever expect anything to go right or well or according to any plan because life just happens so it's not worth the stress

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posted December 31, 2022 07:39 AM            

Mars in Aries: Generates conflict/argues when everybody is moving too slowly and obstructing everything, when bored, dependant, and physically confined

Mars in Taurus: Generates conflict/argues when they have under slept, mismanaged finances or broke, feeling under appreciated and used as a resource, hungry

Mars in Gemini: Generates conflict/argues when they are bored, under stimulated, erratically emotional, and have their thoughts or opinions undermined

Mars in Cancer: Generates conflict/argues when feeling vulnerable and emotionally triggered, hungry, in the manner of pushing away the ones they need the most

Mars in Leo: Generates conflict/argues when feeling ignored, unrecognised and unloved, when their integrity or character is being damaged or tarnished

Mars in Virgo: Generates conflict/argues when feeling intruded upon, overwhelmed by numerous stressors, and physically unwell

Mars in Libra: Generates conflict/argues when they are witness to injustice or cruelty, when their integrity or character is being damaged or tarnished

Mars in Scorpio: Generates conflict/argues when they are denied privacy, intruded upon, psychologically depleted, and controlled, when ideologies are undermined

Mars in Sagittarius: Generates conflict/argues when they have been trapped and confined for too long, when ideologies are undermined

Mars in Capricorn: Generates conflict/argues when people are intrusive, obstructing their work and progress, using them as a resource, when their integrity or character is being damaged or tarnished, when they are dependant

Mars in Aquarius: Generates conflict/argues when people are displaying cultivated ignorance, in witness to an injustice, when confined, under stimulated or personal rituals are restricted