posted November 24, 2022 05:04 AM            

The "penetrative" force of Mars works to uncover, reveal or cut through the riff-raff in Scorpio as well as Aries to get to the crux of the matter.

Whilst Venus in Aries tends to expel the energy outward. Venus in Aries has a very direct approach to relationships, sex and things they like i.e. "Just do it".

Venus in Sco(on the other hand) instinctively and unconsciously feels the fixed energy as well as the intuitive waters of the feminine calling for a more conservative approach in the same matters i.e. "Just control it."

So whilst Venus in Aries will go straight ahead for the target. Sco Venus will entice the target (through mystery and intrigue) to come towards itself. Thus controlling it. Therein lies the rub☝🏿

The Mars nature of both tends to give both a strongly passionate nature. This whether it comes to food,sex,friendships or anything really. There are not many grey areas in their opinions.

So there is a need to explore things very deeply and go towards wherever they lead. This whether towards the downright "seedy" and "clandestine" in sexual matters or criminal. Both can go there.

But whilst Aries will value speed- sometimes rushing through many lovers and trying to get to the "crux" of what this "love" thing is about within one lifetime etc.

Sco has a need to "merge" with the lovers. Getting to the "crux" of love through one or fewer avenues than Aries. Consuming all that is within that one experience as far as possible.

So one is likely to meet more celibate or those claiming "sex indifference" Venus in Scorpio's than Ven in Aries. This because the former is looking for specifics i.e. the "ultimate orgasm" or transcendental experience with one person . And the latter is looking for experience itself (in whatever form it comes).

Sco(more than Aries) typically has to deal with issues pertaining to sexuality and intimacy. The question of letting go vs. Maintaining control. Trust vs. Defensiveness etc. The water nature of their psyche wants them to nurture.But they are always calculating the cost of that and sometimes the fear of loss (which can be tantamount to "death" for them)

The latter can cause them to withhold. A lot. And its really through intimate and unrestricted connections that they will be able to find the intimacy they so deeply crave.

Ironically however, it may mean letting their defenses down and endearing much hurt and pain before understanding (on an energetic level) that the experience of love does not preclude pain.

For many Sco Venus who stay on the infancy side of evolution, the above is too much to let happen. So they stay within their self-imposed exile- yearning to attract a brave warrior who'll demolish their walls and give them the love they deserve by saving them from the fear of love itself. But that person never comes.

What they must realize is that that person they are searching for, they must embody themselves i.e. THEY are the "warriors" who will bring others to a new and revolutionary level of feeling intimacy.

posted November 25, 2022 03:55 AM            

I had enough of manipulation around her actions. I had enough of boundaries violation. I had enough of accusations. I had enough of not healthy relationship. I don't care anymore how much psychological problems she has in her life, it doesn't mean she has the right to put my marriage, my family, and me in the pain too just for her own problems.

She has toxic relationship within her marriage, so she has this odd advice to her children, "no matter how bad the marriage is, you keep staying." The problem is, it seems all of her children has anger problems and toxic themselves.

When my husband hit me, pushed me to the wall, and tried to choke me when I was pregnant (his family in sudden told him about the probability that I didn't pregnant of his but someone elses so he came home angry and confronted me STUPIDLY, yeah, so STUPID that I asked him how he forgot that he was so posessive that I had never met anyone anymore but him) and repeated his actions after just a few days I gave birth (just because I wanted to fully breastfeeding my daughter for 6 months and refused to give her any cow milk which his Mother told him, his mother frustrated him by obsessively asking him if we had given the new baby born a cow milk and I kept refusing telling him the reason that it wasn't a good thing for our new born and there was no need to give her a cow milk until he blew up like we should obey his mother or something threaten his resources),

his parent told me, "well, that's marriage, everybody has that experience, it's a common thing". THAT'S IT. THAT'S IT. They didn't even try to tell their son what he was doing was wrong (something what their kids watch in their marriage). They didn't even show emotions of sympathy or empathy when there was people in pain. They had push my limit, so I told them precisely, "my Father has never hit my Mother, I have never seen their marriage toxic, so not everybody has that experience."

posted November 25, 2022 05:34 AM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
My mum had Venus in Scorpio, so I’m going to have to skim over some of your post, or have my brain scrubbed. I don’t want to think about certain activities. She had mars conjunct Pluto in Leo, too. She was a powerhouse.

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Dad has Mars/Pluto Leo conj opposite Chiron Aqu &Sun/Pluto parallel.Can u say "absolute power corrupts.Absolutely "?

I feel like he used this energy to manipulate and intimidate.He is by far the most selfish person i have ever known.

posted November 25, 2022 05:42 AM            

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Originally posted by hearttreasure:
My mother in law has Venus in Scorpio, as well as Mars/Pluto conjunct. She is the powerhouse in her marriage/family/children and she also tries to powerhouse my marriage/family/children that cause lots of pain, lots of anger, and now I cut ties and let my husband know about it.

I had enough of manipulation around her actions. I had enough of boundaries violation. I had enough of accusations. I had enough of not healthy relationship. I don't care anymore how much psychological problems she has in her life, it doesn't mean she has the right to put my marriage, my family, and me in the pain too just for her own problems.

She has toxic relationship within her marriage, so she has this odd advice to her children, "no matter how bad the marriage is, you keep staying." The problem is, it seems all of her children has anger problems and toxic themselves.

When my husband hit me, pushed me to the wall, and tried to choke me when I was pregnant (his family in sudden told him about the probability that I didn't pregnant of his but someone elses so he came home angry and confronted me STUPIDLY, yeah, so STUPID that I asked him how he forgot that he was so posessive that I had never met anyone anymore but him) and repeated his actions after just a few days I gave birth (just because I wanted to fully breastfeeding my daughter for 6 months and refused to give her any cow milk which his Mother told him, his mother frustrated him by obsessively asking him if we had given the new baby born a cow milk and I kept refusing telling him the reason that it wasn't a good thing for our new born and there was no need to give her a cow milk until he blew up like we should obey his mother or something threaten his resources),

his parent told me, "well, that's marriage, everybody has that experience, it's a common thing". THAT'S IT. THAT'S IT. They didn't even try to tell their son what he was doing was wrong (something what their kids watch in their marriage). They didn't even show emotions of sympathy or empathy when there was people in pain. They had push my limit, so I told them precisely, "my Father has never hit my Mother, I have never seen their marriage toxic, so not everybody has that experience."

Yeah, I cut ties, and I don't know how I'm still in this marriage, but it's more peaceful than before, although I know there's something my husband still hide about his thought and emotion about me cutting ties.

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Your husband concerns me. He has little to no backbone.If he'll be manipulated like that by his parents at the expense of the woman he loves and his child, I am worried 😥.

Venus in Sco can(at worst) revel in toxic situations and power struggles. They may see loyalty of those they love outside of themselves , as pure betrayal

Some love you to control you. It does happen.And some may use your weaknesses to imprison you to them. Also a defense against loss.

If your husband doesnt cut off the umbilical cord that feeds his thinking. All will continue to be unpredictable

All families go through a transition when a family member gets married. When my sisters marry, I must learn to respect their family as well as the BIL.
I shouldn't assume that things will continue as they did before.

But some families find that hard to do. They may still want to maintain control. Even if it means that that control is through cruel & sneaky subversive means 🤷🏿‍♂️

posted November 25, 2022 03:16 PM            

"Sco Venus will entice the target (through mystery and intrigue) to come towards itself. Thus controlling it".

This is on point, and I loved how you touched on the difference between Aries and Scorpio Venus. Both are about passion, but with different colors and flavors.

posted November 25, 2022 03:16 PM            

"Sco Venus will entice the target (through mystery and intrigue) to come towards itself. Thus controlling it".

This is on point, and I loved how you touched on the difference between Aries and Scorpio Venus. Both are about passion, but with different colors and flavors.

posted November 26, 2022 03:08 AM            

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Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul:
@Aries23

"Sco Venus will entice the target (through mystery and intrigue) to come towards itself. Thus controlling it".

This is on point, and I loved how you touched on the difference between Aries and Scorpio Venus. Both are about passion, but with different colors and flavors.

Now what is confusing to me is the placements of this person (male). They have Aries Venus trine Pluto in Sagittarius. How would you interpret the love and passion style of someone like them?

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Venus in Aries (like Venus in Tau/Leo ) can also be about accepting oneself " as is". This especially from an instinctive level(Ari). This whether it extends to physical appearance, how you think or how you act.

Whatever it is,it pertains to one's self esteem or (in other words)the ability one has to "esteem the self"( Ven) or find happiness/pleasure and acceptance in areas of life connected to the core self(Aries).

Pluto trine Venus is that ability for the confidence about the self(Ven Ari) to come easy.For one to find it natural (trine) to accept oneself as is and thus not take the opinions of the peanut gallery deeply into consideration when evaluating the self or in deciding to feel appreciative of the self(Ven in Ari). This is their power (trine Plu).

They can certainly (through this ability) influence others to come to same conclusion about them. This even if they defy or go against conventional standards with regards to how they act, look, how they dress or what they say. People will often say "I dont know. Maggie isnt necessarily conventionally beautiful. But there is just something very attractive about her that draws you in".

Its the confidence exuded from within. Its genuine and (as such) is has the ability of attracting powerful interactions to them.

Some interactions may not be pleasant (ofcourse) as Pluto has a tendency for people to hold extreme views(at worst). And so one can face criticism that comes from the external pertaining to looks, how they think, how they act and what they say (Ven in Aries) etc.

But very seldom are they knocked down for long OR does their inner confidence shake(even in the midst of this). So they do tend to have a deep rooted(Plu) sense of self acceptance that is hard to meddle with.

Many (because of Ven in Aries being the pioneer) may serve as examples of self confidence and self love. People will look to them to see how its done and wonder how they do it etc.

Gabourey Sidibe does not have Venus in Aries trine Pluto. But she does have Venus in Gemini trine Pluto in Libra and is an apt example of this aspect at work.

In an industry that is filled with blonde -blue eyed white , stick thin women, she enters. Totally off the wall from convention in every way(Plu).

Now she may have been told plenty times that she is "too fat", "too dark", "not pretty", "not{ fill in the derogatory word} etc. and that certainly may have hurt her self esteem (Ven). This especially when we see that when its in Gemini, words that she hears from others and utters to herself, have a profound effect on how she feels about herself (Ven).

#sidenote : Venus in Gemini would benefit from consistent verbal engagement and banter. As words really do impact them from a cellular level. The 'strong silent" type will not do. It's not the "strong" they mind so much. It's the "silent" that can be the torture.

posted November 26, 2022 04:32 AM            

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Oh my, Cancer with a Leo stellium. I'm a Scorpio rising with a Sun, Moon, Mercury, and Neptune stellium and I wouldn't enjoy that combo one bit. I have to hand it to you Arie23Degrees, that had to be challenging.

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It certainly was. This even for a Sag stellium who is supposed to understand the Leo energy better. But then there is also the Sco stellium in my chart which kind of cut me off from him.

He has the Nodal axis in Libra/Aries respectively. So yes,this axis does tend to deal with issues of Co-operation vs. Independence. And I dont think I ever experienced the former part with him growing up. He was very much about " the self". He never did grow up in my eyes

Hos Sag Moon conjuncts my Sun in Sag too. So mentally,I did feel a strange kind of "dependence" on him. I expected him to be my core mental peace. But instead was broken hearted a lot and felt mentally jerked around by him too.

Moon-Sun connection is not always positive. This in particular the conjunction. There is a tendency for both to be co-dependent on each other and so if the bond is not one that builds each other up. It can certainly be the source of tearing each other down.🤷🏿‍♂️

Ironically (and perhaps on purpose)I have Aries Asc and in this life, I am called to worry and get to know the self. And so I think when talking of incarnation I might have chosen him as a Father so that he can be so bad at it, that I have no choice but to look at myself (Aries) as the reference point and grow myself to who I want to be.

Even my biological father has Pluto-Sun opposition. His Plu is in my 5th house Leo. And people with Pluto in your 5th house can exert either subversive or overt control over your ability to self express.

His oppositional Sun in Aqua makes him rebellious and very erratic. He doesn't like to be told what to do.And so I think that had I grown up with him, I would still have had to face issues of wanting to be independent.

posted November 26, 2022 11:36 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Venus in Aries (like Venus in Tau/Leo ) can also be about accepting oneself " as is". This especially from an instinctive level(Ari). This whether it extends to physical appearance, how you think or how you act.

Whatever it is,it pertains to one's self esteem or (in other words)the ability one has to "esteem the self"( Ven) or find happiness/pleasure and acceptance in areas of life connected to the core self(Aries).

Pluto trine Venus is that ability for the confidence about the self(Ven Ari) to come easy.For one to find it natural (trine) to accept oneself as is and thus not take the opinions of the peanut gallery deeply into consideration when evaluating the self or in deciding to feel appreciative of the self(Ven in Ari). This is their power (trine Plu).

They can certainly (through this ability) influence others to come to same conclusion about them. This even if they defy or go against conventional standards with regards to how they act, look, how they dress or what they say. People will often say "I dont know. Maggie isnt necessarily conventionally beautiful. But there is just something very attractive about her that draws you in".

Its the confidence exuded from within. Its genuine and (as such) is has the ability of attracting powerful interactions to them.

Some interactions may not be pleasant (ofcourse) as Pluto has a tendency for people to hold extreme views(at worst). And so one can face criticism that comes from the external pertaining to looks, how they think, how they act and what they say (Ven in Aries) etc.

But very seldom are they knocked down for long OR does their inner confidence shake(even in the midst of this). So they do tend to have a deep rooted(Plu) sense of self acceptance that is hard to meddle with.

Many (because of Ven in Aries being the pioneer) may serve as examples of self confidence and self love. People will look to them to see how its done and wonder how they do it etc.

Gabourey Sidibe does not have Venus in Aries trine Pluto. But she does have Venus in Gemini trine Pluto in Libra and is an apt example of this aspect at work.

In an industry that is filled with blonde -blue eyed white , stick thin women, she enters. Totally off the wall from convention in every way(Plu).

Now she may have been told plenty times that she is "too fat", "too dark", "not pretty", "not{ fill in the derogatory word} etc. and that certainly may have hurt her self esteem (Ven). This especially when we see that when its in Gemini, words that she hears from others and utters to herself, have a profound effect on how she feels about herself (Ven).

#sidenote : Venus in Gemini would benefit from words of affirmation and related stuff. As words really do impact them from a cellular level.

Anywho, back to Sedibe. Despite the criticism, she has Pluto trine Venus. And that says to me that her confidence is not so easily shaken. This could be seen in her interviews and red carpet interactions. She is not a wallflower that will fade into the backgound. And is a far cry from the character she potrayed in "Precious".

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posted November 26, 2022 12:07 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Your husband concerns me. He has little to no backbone.If he'll be manipulated like that by his parents at the expense of the woman he loves and his child, I am worried 😥.

Venus in Sco can(at worst) revel in toxic situations and power struggles. They may see loyalty of those they love outside of themselves , as pure betrayal

Some love you to control you. It does happen.And some may use your weaknesses to imprison you to them. Also a defense against loss.

If your husband doesnt cut off the umbilical cord that feeds his thinking. All will continue to be unpredictable

All families go through a transition when a family member gets married. When my sisters marry, I must learn to respect their family as well as the BIL.
I shouldn't assume that things will continue as they did before.

But some families find that hard to do. They may still want to maintain control. Even if it means that that control is through cruel & sneaky subversive means 🤷🏿‍♂️

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I think there's a deeper and complex thing touch his unconciousness growing up in a household that... I don't know... I have that question too, "how he has little to no backbone?". Everyone asks the same question and I know he can't even answer it because I think it's more to a psychological thing (maybe there's a game of guilt trip or something) or a trauma or just simply having a false concept about how to love your Mother. I have no idea what and how.

I won't ask him to put a distance to his Mother/family because I think something has been rooted in the back of his unconciousness since he still takes his Mother side than listen to my reasons, but I told him super clearly that I have to cut ties to his Mother and his other family because I can't deal with toxicity anymore because I have a daughter that needs me, needs my love, needs my sanity to taking care of her, needs mentally healthy parent to make sure she has it too growing up. I want to be her friend, I want to be a reliable parent to her, I don't want her to feel abandoned, I want her to feel loved. It's okay for me if he visits or stays at his Mother house whenever she asks him and every weekend (yes, she keeps trying to keep him close), but I don't want to get involved anymore to any activities or invitations. I need time and space until unknown time. It's fine for me we don't have family time in the weekend, what's more important thing is my daughter gets all the love she need from me that she doesn't have to find it from someone else.

Too much pain and I don't like it because for me, love doesn't found in a pain.

And somehow, the more I put distance and rejections to their invitations (a controller likes to keep their target close and losing all the control forces them to give what the target need, but I don't want to fall to the traps anymore), my husband becomes calmer - I don't see the frustration/anger he brings at home - and we don't have to argue anymore every week for his DEMANDING Mother like this is not our own marriage but hers, we can't even be our ownself in our own marriage.

posted November 26, 2022 03:45 PM            

Because she is the only one who has met my expectation, to be supportive of me during such a time in my life. She also has Pluto in Scorpio.

Now my sister who has Venus in Scorpio on the other hand....My Lilith, Pluto, Moon conjuncts her Venus. So I use to feel the same way about my sister. But I also never noticed that my Leo IC was in the same degree of her Venus sign. I also never noticed that her Scorpio rising and Moon Leo clashes with my Aquarius Mars. I don't want to wish her bad for kicking me when I was very down.

posted November 29, 2022 03:14 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:

For many Sco Venus who stay on the infancy side of evolution, the above is too much to let happen. So they stay within their self-imposed exile- yearning to attract a brave warrior who'll demolish their walls and give them the love they deserve by saving them from the fear of love itself. But that person never comes.

What they must realize is that that person they are searching for, they must embody themselves i.e. THEY are the "warriors" who will bring others to a new and revolutionary level of feeling intimacy.

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Very deep post overall. ❤ The above stood out to me the most. I've bonded with several Scorpio Venuses over the past few years - on both romantic & platonic levels. For the most part, I've really enjoyed it. We've truly *seen* each other in profound ways that had lasting impact.

In my experience, VIS Men are intoxicating. 🔥 They are usually highly sexual BUT also very choosy as well. They can go years (by choice) without sex. They are ALL OR NOTHING when it comes to love. So we have much common! 👍🏾 Y'all can "hold back" and then suddenly FLOOD with emotions (and semen lol) for that special somebody.

My VIS female friends & I love to connect with and explore our Femininity together. 🌕 We talk about the Moon, Ocean, God, Rituals, Love, Pain, etc. They go DEEP in these areas and I love that! The Women can be Nuns *or* Wh0res. 😂 It varies. And while they appreciate being seen as attractive, they hate being objectified.

Some people are overwhelmed with or afraid of VIS intensity... all while being simultaneously intrigued by them on a silly surface level. And I have advised Scorpio Venuses (of both genders) in my life to stay TF away from those individuals. 💯 I tell them "You are NOT too much! You are wonderful & delicious just the way you are." I appreciate the layers that y'all have to offer and that you can also handle mine.

Downsides to Scorpio Venus??

-How you guys (sometimes) see things in Absolutes that are NOT Absolute. Lord! 😂 I've mentioned this to you once before Aries23.

-Sometimes y'all just want to be right even when you are WRONG. Especially if The Truth goes against a deeply held belief of yours. But usually, the VIS in my life will come to their senses and we'll talk it out and start loving on each other again. 👍🏾

posted November 29, 2022 04:13 AM            

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Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul:
This is interesting. I never noticed that Aries has that innate realness in common with Leo and Taurus.

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Yes, Aries, Leo, Tau and Cancer too deal with issues pertaining to the personal "self". These are the most "self centred " energies you will find. And that is not necessarily a bad thing. It just means that they are most invested in the self and realizing oneself more than the others.

Aries Venus are (metaphorically speaking) the child born naked. Nothing is more "real" and as earnest as a child born without coverings. So they may have to deal with self love & self acceptance of "I am". This from an intuitive level.

Venus in Taurus may have to sort their sense of self separate from what they own. The Taurus vibrates to the "I have" principle. And can confuse "ownership" of things external to them as an evaluation of self worth. The only thing they must know is worthy to hold on to(as Erika Badu Ven Cap-Sat Tau put it in the song "Bag Lady"), "Is you. Is you. Is you."❤

For Venus in Leo, its issues pertaining to self appreciation (this whether there is external applause or not). The "I will" principle of Leo is the audacity to create through its own intentions. This takes self confidence.

posted November 29, 2022 05:43 AM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
I didn't think words of affirmation were my thing, because quality time is the main one. But they do go together, I think. It is really important to know that, no matter what, you are loved. You are important to someone.

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I recall a Ven/Mars conj in Virgo ex of mine who really appreciated it when I told them how much I appreciate them I.e. "I really like that you...."etc. Or"the way you did ....was special to me. I am very grateful that you..." etc.

They would actually love it if I went into detail about it. Told them what exactly it is that I liked about them. It would have them blush.

Now I went back and tweaked what I wrote there a little because I realized that with all my Venus in Gemini mates, one thing that is consistent, is that we can run out of airtime talking on the phone.

Venus in Gemini really appreciates being engaged in conversation and knowing what is happening in your head and for them to tell you what is going on in theirs.

This is not necessarily deep convo that is meant to conclude anything BIG really. It is often banter on a number of different subjects (many related to each other by a random small thread) i.e. "speaking of anal Cancer. Do you know that Alex went to...." etc. They like hearing your thoughts and imparting theirs on the current matters of the day.

Silent treatment or you not being available to communicate consistently with them can bug those that I know.Its like they want to atleast touch base regularly,hear your voice and talk. They may literally feel better once they have done that. Like they are "closer" to you in some way.

So when you are not much of a talker, they can feel "distant" from you (this even when sitting right next to them).

My friend (Ven in Aqu)talked of how he & his Ven Gem boyfriend would literally have a full conversation via messenger whilst still on the way to seeing each other.

posted November 29, 2022 06:05 AM            

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Originally posted by hearttreasure:
I think there's a deeper and complex thing touch his unconciousness growing up in a household that... I don't know... I have that question too, "how he has little to no backbone?". Everyone asks the same question and I know he can't even answer it because I think it's more to a psychological thing (maybe there's a game of guilt trip or something) or a trauma or just simply having a false concept about how to love your Mother. I have no idea what and how.

I won't ask him to put a distance to his Mother/family because I think something has been rooted in the back of his unconciousness since he still takes his Mother side than listen to my reasons, but I told him super clearly that I have to cut ties to his Mother and his other family because I can't deal with toxicity anymore because I have a daughter that needs me, needs my love, needs my sanity to taking care of her, needs mentally healthy parent to make sure she has it too growing up. I want to be her friend, I want to be a reliable parent to her, I don't want her to feel abandoned, I want her to feel loved. It's okay for me if he visits or stays at his Mother house whenever she asks him and every weekend (yes, she keeps trying to keep him close), but I don't want to get involved anymore to any activities or invitations. I need time and space until unknown time. It's fine for me we don't have family time in the weekend, what's more important thing is my daughter gets all the love she need from me that she doesn't have to find it from someone else.

Too much pain and I don't like it because for me, love doesn't found in a pain.

And somehow, the more I put distance and rejections to their invitations (a controller likes to keep their target close and losing all the control forces them to give what the target need, but I don't want to fall to the traps anymore), my husband becomes calmer - I don't see the frustration/anger he brings at home - and we don't have to argue anymore every week for his DEMANDING Mother like this is not our own marriage but hers, we can't even be our ownself in our own marriage.

A lot of bad things happened actually from humiliation, victimization, to trying killing my character for her own advantage without me even say anything or do anything badly to her (because I still respect my husband as she is his Mother), but it's all too much to tell here.

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I really applaud your sanity through it all. You have decided to stay away from the drama. And because of that, you husband is not feeling "divided" anymore.

I think it's wise to dedicate your focus and attention on someone that matters instead of wasting it fighting someone that you are at odds with.

Add to that, your daughter is going to benefit growing up with a wonderfully caring mother who absolutely loves her. That is clear.

posted November 29, 2022 06:11 AM            

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Originally posted by Stawr:
I'll have to see what degree my coworker friend has her Venus Scorpio.

Because she is the only one who has met my expectation, to be supportive of me during such a time in my life. She also has Pluto in Scorpio.

Now my sister who has Venus in Scorpio on the other hand....My Lilith, Pluto, Moon conjuncts her Venus. So I use to feel the same way about my sister. But I also never noticed that my Leo IC was in the same degree of her Venus sign. I also never noticed that her Scorpio rising and Moon Leo clashes with my Aquarius Mars. I don't want to wish her bad for kicking me when I was very down. (quack alert) I even had an opportunity to have an affair with her husband on the astral plane. This was after my sister said some hurtful things to me. I said I can't betray my sister on this level or at least not right now.(why would I say that last part wtf)

Any ways I'm getting way off topic, what I want to say is she is going to get her cosmic humbling with Saturn Aqua inching closer to her Leo Moon(27), Scorpio Rising (27) Her Capricorn Mars(26?) will help soften the blow.

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I think the anger you feel may be coming from the clash with her Moon and Asc. It's more internal I think.

Since her Moon/Ven are on your Ic in Leo, you expect care from her. And since it wasn't forthcoming, Mars in opposition to both kicked in and you felt betrayed. This also since Mars is (I assume) ruling the 12thhouse.

The interesting bit with the husband speaks of 12thhouse anger. I think because Mars rules the 12th? So you may have contemplated "getting revenge" on her by causing pain through a more subversive means I.e. astral plane?

posted November 29, 2022 06:25 AM            

Too true🤣🤣. My goodness. This is accurate. I am the nun turned ***** (with the right person). Right now I am at a nunnery😶

My VIS female friends & I love to connect with and explore our Femininity together. 🌕 We talk about the Moon, Ocean, God, Rituals, Love, Pain, etc. They go DEEP in these areas and I love that! The Women can be Nuns *or* Wh0res. 😂 It varies. And while they appreciate being seen as attractive, they hate being objectified.

Yes. Also true. And most people don't understand the difference between appreciation and objectification.👌🏿

Some people are overwhelmed with or afraid of VIS intensity... all while being simultaneously intrigued by them on a silly surface level. And I have advised Scorpio Venuses (of both genders) in my life to stay TF away from those individuals. 💯 I tell them "You are NOT too much! You are wonderful & delicious just the way you are." I appreciate the layers that y'all have to offer and that you can also handle mine.

I think for people who don't have nothing to hide and are not hiding from themselves, VIS isn't scary. But for those who still want to hide from themselves,the VIS is too much.

I notice that Venus in Cancer is all in for the intensity too. Infact, I think Cancer types (Moon) can find emotional drama stimulating. And the thought of being undressed both physically and emotionally etc. is attractive for the many I have met.

Once such Cancer Mars/Libra Sun I connected with sexually once was like this. It was 🔥. We didn't kniw each other all that long before getting intimate.

Pity about the whole "I am actually bisexual but I don't want people to know (including myself)" thing he had.

Downsides to Scorpio Venus??

-How you guys (sometimes) see things in Absolutes that are NOT Absolute. Lord! 😂 I've mentioned this to you once before Aries23.

-Sometimes y'all just want to be right even when you are WRONG. Especially if The Truth goes against a deeply held belief of yours. But usually, the VIS in my life will come to their senses and we'll talk it out and start loving on each other again. 👍🏾

-Fear of LETTING GO. And choosing partners who clearly lack the depth that you CRAVE. Stop this!! You deserve Real love. ❤

I think because of our emotional attachment to ideas, it can make it quite diffult to let go. Not because what we believe is alawyas factually fixed. But because our emotional attachment to it FEELS fixed.

So tearing us away from it FEELS like being skinned alive.It can be quite painful. But it is necessary to gently steer us away from misguided thoughts. It's liberating to us too-especially when we are way off base. Just like the feeling of relief when you are.This after long holding it in.

But I always think that with VIS, approach is everything. Better to persuade them by appealing to their sense of emotions rather than reason I.e. instead of "Don't be an idiot. It's not how it is"- which will make them mad with anger.

The other approach could be " I feel you on that. And I understand that you think....... And that will mean....." etc. Could it perhaps be that if it's......then that would mean it's...."? Just a consideration.

Often times behind the stubbornness is fear of looking or feeling ridiculous. Nobody puts on a "scary" armour quite like VIS when challenged.And that's mostly because they feel so fearful inside.

I recall Lady Danbury (Bridgerton) saying (of her youth and feeling intimidated by her title) that " Instead of feeling fearful. I made myself frightful".

posted December 01, 2022 05:57 AM            

Nun turned S1ut really sums y'all up well! 😂

You said that a VIS being "torn away" from their ideas feels like being Skinned Alive?? SHEESH. 😮 I'll keep that in mind moving forward. As I'm open to refining my approach with people I care about.

I must ask: Do you view Scorpio Venuses as stingy? Or as generous?

What's your favorite Scorpio/Pluto placement in a potential partner's chart?

posted December 01, 2022 07:45 AM            

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Originally posted by LovelyAries86:
@Aries23

Nun turned S1ut really sums y'all up well! 😂

You said that a VIS being "torn away" from their ideas feels like being Skinned Alive?? SHEESH. 😮 I'll keep that in mind moving forward. As I'm open to refining my approach with people I care about.

I must ask: Do you view Scorpio Venuses as stingy? Or as generous?

What's your favorite Scorpio/Pluto placement in a potential partner's chart?

Which Venus Signs are you least drawn to?

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I think that one of the reasons that I am not in a relationship right now is because of money issues.

I am typically the kind of lover that is quite generous and expansive. Solar 5th house of pleasure for Sco is Pisces.And Pisces is boundless. So I tend to be generous with those I love. This to a point of spoiling them.

My favourite Sco placement would likely be another Venus in Sco. I don't think we are able to hide much from each other We just "get" where the other is coming from.

The Venus sign that I am least drawn to or have had the least experience with (rather) is Leo. I also find Aqua Venus not ideal(barring aspects that may contradict the usually inherently cool approach to relationships).

posted December 01, 2022 04:09 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
I think that one of the reasons that I am not in a relationship right now is because of money issues.

I am typically the kind of lover that is quite generous and expansive. Solar 5th house of pleasure for Sco is Pisces. And Pisces is boundless. So I tend to be generous with those I love. This to a point of spoiling them.

My favourite Sco placement would likely be another Venus in Sco. I don't think we are able to hide much from each other We just "get" where the other is coming from.

The Venus sign that I am least drawn to or have had the least experience with (rather) is Leo. I also find Aqua Venus not ideal(barring aspects that may contradict the usually inherently cool approach to relationships).

I find the latter heighten my insecurities because I want them closer. And they (because of their obsession with "space") want to remain far.

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I actually think it's smart of you to want your finances in order before making a long-term commitment. Especially if you prefer to be more of the "Leader" in your relationships. 👍🏾 Now if one just wants an occasional fling? No big deal there.

I don't have a ton of experience with Leo Venus males either. Leo Mars though?! I know them well and attract them often (along with Leo Suns.) ☀️