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Topic: Why isn’t Earth signs known to be shallow?
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chocogold Knowflake Posts: 323 From: USA Registered: Aug 2010
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posted December 06, 2022 05:36 PM
quote: Originally posted by StoneMoon:
We all want to be ok, and I don't think it's wrong to want the best for our kids. That said, I do absolutely think we have forgotten what constitutes "best."
That is understandable. I am not OP but I think OP is just questioning the double standard. IP: Logged |
MoonMystic Knowflake Posts: 6997 From: ทѳ૨τђ ทѳ∂૯ ♓ Registered: Nov 2016
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posted December 06, 2022 05:46 PM
Idk if it was mentioned already but often I think Earth signs are frugal. Taurus may have a potential to be less so but in my observation that group is cautious over overspending. They are most likely to save up for key goals imo.. I've known many but only practical items and even think it over linger. Just those I've known. As I mentioned Taurus being a bit different from Virgo, Capricorn. I think they might enjoy materials that are possibly more of what others could perceive as pretentious items but that's Venus energy at work if so. IP: Logged |
SleepyDiary Knowflake Posts: 534 From: Registered: Apr 2017
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posted December 06, 2022 05:47 PM
quote: Originally posted by chocogold: @sleepydiaryI completely understand your question and I am mostly water and earth. Perchance the term is not shallow for earth signs but superficial? If I had to choose, earth signs or some people with earth placements can be superficial as opposed to shallow. On the other hand, air signs are more likely to be described as being shallow. I see shallow as lacking depth, which is usually assigned to air and fire signs. And then, I see what you are describing as superficial. That is, people who are overly materialistic and judgmental, etc.
Great explanation, Thank you 👍 maybe they are more on the superficial side then rather than shallow i thought both were kinda similar haha.
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chocogold Knowflake Posts: 323 From: USA Registered: Aug 2010
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posted December 06, 2022 08:33 PM
quote: Originally posted by SleepyDiary: Great explanation, Thank you 👍 maybe they are more on the superficial side then rather than shallow i thought both were kinda similar haha.
Honestly, I am unsure if these are the correct terms to use--this is just the best interpretation I can think of. But do know I understand what you are saying. I have also seen inconsistent behaviour from earth signs/earth placements. As in, pretending that they are not materialistic, giving you the impression they do not care about what other people possess or their lifestyle but preferring the company of people who only make them look good (no "poor-looking people" whatever that is supposed to mean) or in romantic relationships, completely transactional relationships. Only if the romantic partner showers them with material stuff or if the romantic interest lives a great life according to social media-in spite of the fact the relationship is miserable and that great social media life is faker than a forged signature. I think water signs/water placements have the same issue. Some see them as deep and I agree, some can be very deep about their emotions and feelings and understanding others but there are those that are deep only about their feelings and hurt. Very sensitive when other people hurt or slight them but when they do the same to you, they get into their feelings so much that they turn you into the perpetrator and they, the victim. IP: Logged |
SleepyDiary Knowflake Posts: 534 From: Registered: Apr 2017
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posted December 07, 2022 11:41 AM
quote: Originally posted by MoonMystic: Idk if it was mentioned already but often I think Earth signs are frugal. Taurus may have a potential to be less so but in my observation that group is cautious over overspending. They are most likely to save up for key goals imo.. I've known many but only practical items and even think it over linger. Just those I've known. As I mentioned Taurus being a bit different from Virgo, Capricorn. I think they might enjoy materials that are possibly more of what others could perceive as pretentious items but that's Venus energy at work if so.
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SleepyDiary Knowflake Posts: 534 From: Registered: Apr 2017
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posted December 07, 2022 11:54 AM
quote: Originally posted by chocogold: Honestly, I am unsure if these are the correct terms to use--this is just the best interpretation I can think of.But do know I understand what you are saying. I have also seen inconsistent behaviour from earth signs/earth placements. As in, pretending that they are not materialistic, giving you the impression they do not care about what other people possess or their lifestyle but preferring the company of people who only make them look good (no "poor-looking people" whatever that is supposed to mean) or in romantic relationships, completely transactional relationships. Only if the romantic partner showers them with material stuff or if the romantic interest lives a great life according to social media-in spite of the fact the relationship is miserable and that great social media life is faker than a forged signature. I think water signs/water placements have the same issue. Some see them as deep and I agree, some can be very deep about their emotions and feelings and understanding others but there are those that are deep only about their feelings and hurt. Very sensitive when other people hurt or slight them but when they do the same to you, they get into their feelings so much that they turn you into the perpetrator and they, the victim.
Thank you I knew this was gonna be an unpopular opinion to have because i have noticed Earth is a very respected element, more than any other elements actually. But this was something i had seen from them for a long time and had been wondering about so i finally just had to ask about it. So true what you say about Water too 👍 IP: Logged |
Librapurr Knowflake Posts: 1976 From: Registered: Jul 2019
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posted December 07, 2022 01:03 PM
quote: Originally posted by SleepyDiary: I understand what you are saying Librapurr and you come with some good points here explaining the reasons behind their actions and i have witness some of that myself coming from them but some are not like that at all and have straight up just been with someone for their money and possessions without any love behind it both Taurus and Cap types. And Virgos can be so caught up in unimportant shallow things that it’s sometimes annoying talking with them about something personal and they are there just focusing on that pimple you have on your forehead. But anyways I just wanted to know why Earth wasn’t seen as shallow because in my opinion they can come off very shallow. Yes i have heard about the 5 different languages my friend actually mentioned this the other day and we were talking about it that is true that we show love differently and need it in different ways.
Talking about material possessions, the most Not-shallow is air. They could be flying around looking for real love.. But people generally don’t like it because they seem to be unsafe.If you think stereotypes about deep and shallow in astrology are all about people’s insecurities. Earth and Water are getting praised because they most likely stick around. So we mostly consider here how people behave in relationships, not how they are by themselves. Again, not all people with planets in earth are the same. That was my point. And aspects would play differently and modify placements a lot. Earth with a lot of Uranus and mars would be different, more restless. IP: Logged |
Kannon McAfee Knowflake Posts: 4942 From: Portland, OR - USA Registered: Oct 2011
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posted December 07, 2022 05:05 PM
quote: Originally posted by MoonMystic: Idk if it was mentioned already but often I think Earth signs are frugal. Taurus may have a potential to be less so but in my observation that group is cautious over overspending.
I can be very resourceful and frugal to the point that other people just cannot live with. I've had to lighten up and meet my wife halfway. She's more free spending. And I know I'm not the 'typical' Taurus since I have zero ostentation, no materialism of the money grubbing or accumulating kind. I've never owned anything with any real value. Not necessarily by aim, but I do find material possessions weigh you down and make spontaneity and mobility difficult and unnecessarily expensive. Practical. Why spend so much money moving around what you've accumulated if you can just let it go, move to another place, and slowly replace them with new things? I don't imbue objects, knick-knacks, and other such material things with much sentiment. If the memories are good and really matter, then you remember them within your heart, not an object. ------------------ Astrological gemstone readings for your energetic balance, healing, and soul development. http://kannonmcafee.wordpress.com/services/ We were born for these times. We agreed to be here. IP: Logged |
PlutoWasHere Knowflake Posts: 723 From: The Nether World Registered: Mar 2021
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posted December 08, 2022 02:20 AM
quote: Originally posted by Kannon McAfee: …And I know I'm not the 'typical' Taurus since I have zero ostentation, no materialism of the money grubbing or accumulating kind. I've never owned anything with any real value. Not necessarily by aim, but I do find material possessions weigh you down and make spontaneity and mobility difficult and unnecessarily expensive. Practical. Why spend so much money moving around what you've accumulated if you can just let it go, move to another place, and slowly replace them with new things?…
Like you, I’m a Taurus that does not need any material goods. I enjoy nice things and can appreciate their aesthetic, but they’re still things and have no real value to me. I think the heart of Taurus is to be comfortable. In it’s lowest manifestation that could mean a focus on “stuff” and “things”, but it could also be people. However the truest form of being comfortable is “peace of mind”, this comes from within and is, like you described, the reason why Taurus can also become very good in not needing any material goods at all, because it can become a burden that weighs you down and will make you restless. In my opinion, that’s how it’s connected to “value” as well. In its lowest form it could be an obsession with everything that enhances status and external indicators of success. But in its highest form it brings an understanding of real value and the ability to let go of “things” we think we need to make us happy, and then we become the peaceful grazing beast that’s not disturbed by anything, as promised by the archetype.
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Stawr Moderator Posts: 8083 From: N. America Registered: Nov 2010
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posted December 11, 2022 01:04 AM
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