posted June 29, 2009 09:07 PM         

I really don't appreciate your attitude toward me and i'd like for you to end your bitch1ng on this thread. So come on, lets hear what you've got to say and put an end to this ridiculous playground brawl because it is not only annoying but it's obvious you have issues with me.

OK? I really don't have any issue with you, except for your verbal personal assaults on me when you have no idea about me whatsoever.

posted June 29, 2009 09:13 PM         

and for once, it wasn't my FAULT!

posted June 29, 2009 09:19 PM         

Aww, it's not always your fault!!

posted June 29, 2009 09:40 PM         

Anyway, is she not gonna come here and tell me why she has to pick at my flesh?
Is it halloween yet?!

posted June 29, 2009 11:37 PM         

I can at least understand THAT statement. But just because you find someone offensive doesn't mean they're attacking you.

I didn't put up much, and it was pretty Libran with what I did put up (weighing this claim & that), but I refrained from posting a link that explained something in excellent detail because the site had the weakness of bluntly calling people stupid for having believed the latest internet hoax, which I thought was too much to post. Maybe I should've posted on another thread (though I was responding to people on THAT thread), but I was careful not to attack any members there (the closest was saying to be skeptical of your sources, if they were upsetting you too badly).

And remember that much of the talk about MJ and pedophilia was people saying they were disturbed by the media and people SAYING he was a pedophile--that is, it was brought up by the media and others outside the thread. I personally don't see anything wrong with that, but I could understand asking that the threads be split.

posted June 30, 2009 01:04 AM         

1 Michael Jackson thread + 1 Diana + 1 possible DfD = Dirty Defiant.

No - no - wait = Dirty Diana. No, no, wait. I'll get it, just give me time.

posted June 30, 2009 05:41 PM         

Thank you for speaking up for me.

I must say after observing all that unbelievable ordeal on our Michael thread on Astrology 2.0, I made the right decision to check out LLC 2.0, merely out of curiosity- and I am relieved that I have, because this thread has ended up a surprise.

I am D for Defiant; I am DfD; I am D.

At the same time, I feel a bit sad as the whole thing was not supposed to be about "me"- we had been starting threads to mourn for Michael.

Dervish,

I am rather curious about why you guess that I, as DfD, is Diana? On what grounds, comments, posts, facts, clues, was your guess based?

As a matter of fact, because I've been busy with the threads about mourning Michael here at LL, plus further online research on Michael the past few days since Michael died- I had been wanting to reply to your posts in response to me on at least one of my own threads here at LL, but had not been able to. About cyberspace and negative websites- if you still remember which thread of mine I am talking about- I was pretty impressed with your comments on the fact that false statements could also come from such media giants as FOX, MSNBC (I hope I get this one correctly, but I'm not sure, haven't checked), and even CNN. I also thought your posts on one of our Michael threads on Astrology 2.0 were quite sensible, and I was about to find time to give you some positive feedback.

Was it because you happened to have viewed at least, but if memory serves, probably only two at maximum- threads, where I had a recent argument with two other fellow LL members- hence your impression from me that suggested I, as DfD, was, and still is- not only someone who is also Diana- an individual who obviously needs psychotherapeutic/clinical psychological/even forensic psychological imo/psychoanalytic/psychiatric attention, but also, at the same time, suggested that I, as you put it- Diana is DfD- which makes me a double, if not multiple, poster, consequently violating one of the rules of LindaLand, and according to the Terms of Agreement, such behavior would result in dismissal?

Dervish, I just checked again, and all and any of the posts by Diana on our Michael thread on Astrology 2.0 are still on the thread, intact- should it be the case that Diana's posts seem to have disappeared- you might like to check for cache or glitches with your computer and related equipment- as those messages posted by Diana ARE STILL THERE, PERFECTLY INTACT AND VIEWABLE.

I shall await your response, Dervish.

Meanwhile...

MVM,

I admire you for your graciousness, as clearly stated that you haven't liked Michael for years- yet your posts on our Michael threads (yes- plural- not a typo) have been very considerate, kind and sensible. I feel the same- I feel sorry that the thread on Astrology 2.0 have been ruined- or I should say- sabotaged. That was the sickest thing I had seen for quite a while.

Diana (are you still thinking I am talking about myself as if talking about my "other twin" and I am talking to myselves (grammatical error intended), Dervish?), as far as I'm concerned, in simple terms- initiated offense, or attack. Her hatred toward Michael Jackson, and her hatred toward Lara were crystal-clear. She claimed that she was not leaving the Michael thread (the one on Astrology 2.0) she was ruining, then she stated that she would not post again, unless one of us on that particular thread addressed to her, then she would post on that thread again in response to any individual who had addressed to her. If memory serves, Diana also said that she would not cooperate with Lara, would not accept Lara's invitation of starting exactly THIS thread, here on LLC 2.0, for Diana to vent, and leave the Michael thread alone.

Diana had made some of the cruelest, most biased, most unfounded, most partial, most hurtful remarks on the Michael thread. She basically just had added insult to injury. And it was evident to me that she was all for destruction.

While I, D for Defiant, or DfD- have been posting and quoting documents, article(s), statements I have discovered that I think might help, and which I think might be in favor for Michael Jackson.

Dervish, why would I, DfD- like to post comments in favor of Michael, but at the same time, have some form of psychopathological desire to play a polar opposite role, which would be Diana? I look forward to hearing about your rationalization, analysis, and logic.

Lara

Remember what Linda (a Ram!) said about sun Aries? She wrote- (paraphrased) that as the zodiac sign that represents the 1st house, Aries natives are the ones who perceive life and things in life (again, paraphrasing) the right way (excuse me for not being politically correct)? Similar qualities go for any stellium Aries, too- regardless of the given individuals's sun signs. Aries, ruled by the Greek/Roman god of war, the warrior god, Mars- also known as Ares, grants the warrior quality to Aries, but in my view- particularly so for stellium Aries- and that's basically a good thing, Lara, if solar Aries, as well as stellium Aries, use their power well.

My sun sign is Aquarius H5. I am not a stellium Aries, and possibly, but not definitely- my only two Aries placements are Eris in the 7th conj Ceres in the 8th. However, I do have Mars in Virgo in the 12th conj Virgo rising, closest to my Virgo Ascendent among my two other Virgo planets that also conj my ASC. I've read in "The Astrologer's Handbook" about this aspect- the books says: "(paraphrasing)...if these people (the natives with this aspect) can learn diplomacy, they can accomplish a great deal."

I was not instantly enlightened upon reading this interpretation. I carried on with what I was still relatively unconscious about- my very Mars-like temperament.

Until just about exactly two years ago- there was a crisis and my life changed forever.

I have come to learned that, at least, to me, personally- Life is a war, which includes numerous battlefields of all kinds. The battlegrounds are all of different nature. On a different battlefield, appropriate strategies, or tactics, must be correctly applied; there will be different strategies for different battles. Use the right tactics, and you will win the battle. That's just about when I finally began to learn a tiny little bit of diplomacy.

Here at LindaLand, unfortunately, it is quite the same for a certain, but not all- situations. Diplomacy, tact, nonchalance (better accompanied with sincerity) and reason are all essential for successful communication, and when necessary- for winning the war. I consider, for example, the court of law to be a battlefield of its kind- and lawyers battle with one another with mind, not muscles; with wits, not insult-exchange (you might call some of their legal manipulation "subtle insult-exchange). The court of law is often a sad place where justice is being severely manipulated, but at the same time- a perfect example for any of us Mars-influenced individuals to observe, and to learn from.

It is funny, as Law was my favorite subject (but not my best-at subject- I was best at Government & Politics) when I was doing my A levels in London (albeit for an extremely brief period of time)- yet it took me several years to begin to comprehend the philosophy behind the field of Law, and the art of war in the court of law.

Excuse me for ranting so very long! I've been ranting, sorry.

I look forward to feedback or criticism from not only Dervish, who was the first to guess that I, as DfD, is also Diana- but that from any of you folks is welcome. I must admit that I'd rather spend the past hour doing some further research, which would have made me feel that I were doing something more meaningful- but writing this post is far from totally meaningless, to me, at least.

I do admit that recently I had failed to be vigilant enough, and caused unnecessary, and unconstructive debates. I believe I will improve, not only in the near future, but right here from now on.

At the end of the day, the most important thing or person to me, is mourning, and honoring Michael Jackson- I was completely mesmerized when I watched Michael's music videos being played on a store semi-big screen on one of the busiest streets in the city of Taipei. I was a seventh grader. I fell in love with Michael's music instantly. When he came to Taiwan (I am Japanese, btw) for the very first time, I attended both his two concerts in Taipei. Among many other things, Michael was definitely a fantastic live performer. He was so very multi-talented, and so artistically-inclined. I bought one of his books (written by himself), and he was a wonderful poet and writer.

I look forward to hearing from your say.

Why do you think I am Diana? Based on what grounds or clues?

D

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Every night and every morn,
Some to misery are born;
Every morn and every night,
Some are born to sweet delight.
Some are born to sweet delight,
Some are born to endless night.

posted June 30, 2009 06:03 PM         

I would like to see your natal chart, or at least learn about your precise birth info, so I can run your chart. I am serious.

It appeared to be the case as any LL member is free to voice her or his opinions, even if hers or his differ from the majority of the others on the same thread.

I've been staying up all night again and now the sun has risen, so I'll keep it short.

However, it was NOT proper for Glaucus or Diana to either scrutinize unconfirmed legal matters of the deceased, whom we mourn for and honor on that particular thread, or simply repeatedly expressing her own disdain and resentment toward the man we fans or non-fans alike were, and still are- mourning, and participating in discussions in rememberance of Michael. It was never too vague or too ambiguous to see that such individuals should have started their own threads, if they had something to say about Michael, but not to mourn for him.

Lara

Yes, that was creepy!

And sick.

D

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Every night and every morn,
Some to misery are born;
Every morn and every night,
Some are born to sweet delight.
Some are born to sweet delight,
Some are born to endless night.

posted June 30, 2009 06:12 PM         

D

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Every night and every morn,
Some to misery are born;
Every morn and every night,
Some are born to sweet delight.
Some are born to sweet delight,
Some are born to endless night.