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Valus
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posted May 06, 2010 12:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Valus     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks.

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Yin
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posted May 06, 2010 01:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yin     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, I do, Valus.

Char, thank you.

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katatonic
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posted May 06, 2010 01:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
yin i agree with you that "god" sees everything and i think it is time to let it go. as in the story of the two monks who carried the woman across the river, the one who actually carried her put her down on the other side, the other carried her mentally for the rest of the day...

i have already said that i think wheels was out of line. however she dropped it and has not been dragging it on for a week or more. i have also agreed to stay out of valus threads but if you continue to talk about others as if they have no "side of the story" it makes it very difficult to do so.

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pire
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posted May 06, 2010 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message
I wish to say that valus is a W@NKER; how about that, will I be banned? would it be more acceptable if I had compared him to a small fish and me a great one? more polite than saying W@NKER, but different?

oh, I don't keep records of veiled or blunt insults, to bad, huh? Now if I must be ban, so be it

c'est la vie

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pire
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posted May 06, 2010 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message
I wish to say that valus is a W@NKER; how about that, will I be banned? would it be more acceptable if I had compared him to a small fish and me a great one? more polite than saying W@NKER, but different?

oh, I don't keep records of veiled or blunt insults, to bad, huh? Now if I must be ban, so be it

c'est la vie

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Valus
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posted May 06, 2010 02:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Valus     Edit/Delete Message

kat,

Wheels has not "moved on", lol.
She calculatedly mounted her assault the day
before she knew she would be getting offline.
She did it because she knew people like you would
use it as an excuse to give her a free pass and
to tell me that I am talking behind her back, lol.

If you have moved on, move on then.

Don't come in here and tell us to move on,
and then imply that your excuses for staying
involved are more enlightened than our own.
You arent even nearly as involved in this
as we are, so why do you make it your own?


pire,

"w@nker"?

I thought "egocentric w@nker who won't produce anything else than a few lines on a forum nobody cares about except its members" said it much better, don't you? It's funny how you just keep coming at me and throwing these things at me, in my threads, or wherever I'm being discussed, even when I ignore you. Look, if you have a problem with my generic, veiled insults, don't open my threads. And if I have a problem with your cuttingly specific, direct insults, citing me by name, then I won't open my threads either, lol. Deal?

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katatonic
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posted May 06, 2010 02:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
for your own sake, valus, my suggestion that you move on stands. i know pluto does not like to let go of things BUT that is one of our (plutonians) lessons.

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Valus
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posted May 06, 2010 02:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Valus     Edit/Delete Message

Show me by example, kat.

You're even less involved
than Yin and I are, but
you can't stay away.

Show me how to walk away,
without pire here trying
to provoke you into saying
something worse
; show me.

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pire
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posted May 06, 2010 02:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message
w@nker is worse than tosser right, so why do you keep grudges toward wheels? what about me?

which makes your attacks of wheels personal; and I find it shameful that you set a campaign to ostracize her from LL where she's appreciated.

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pire
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posted May 06, 2010 02:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message
"And if I have a problem with your cuttingly specific, direct insults, citing me by name, then I won't open my threads either, lol. Deal?"

yes, deal!

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charmainec
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posted May 06, 2010 02:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charmainec     Edit/Delete Message
I leave for a few minutes and the arguing and fighting starts again?Everyone please... we can't dwell on this and it's getting out of hand.Stop with the insults and attacks.

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letram
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posted May 06, 2010 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for letram     Edit/Delete Message
i do not think it is simply the members that may lack control, i think it is the forum .

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LEXX
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posted May 06, 2010 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
WANKER/TOSSER

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pire
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posted May 06, 2010 02:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message
ok, I didn't know the meaning of tosser. but I still believe that valus tries to get even with wheels because she sees beyond the ******** and the nice words and he does that by trying to ostracize her. his repeated attacks against her only proves that it's a personal issue with her; it sound an awful lot like manipulation on his part. I sincerely wish nobody falls for it, because he's said more upsetting things to a lot of knowflakes in disguised words. so if wheels was blamed for her attitude toward him, he should be too, for his clever insults. otherwise, all that will be left here will Be an ode to the politically correct

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Valus
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posted May 06, 2010 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Valus     Edit/Delete Message

pire,

So, you haven't even read the thread yet?

I've already explained, several times,
that I ignored wheels when she called me
a "tosser" and when she called me a "joke".

My reply was, "I dont know what you are."

Almost anybody here would have reacted
more aggressively and been excused for it.
I ignored both of those insults.

I moved on, as Kat now likes to say.

The next morning
,
after people had moved on,
wheels opens my thread.

It's a poem which, granted,
makes me sound like a martyr
and puts others in a poor light,
but it's brief and unspecific.

Nobody is named or treated to insults
that target their individual sensitivities,
and I didnt hijack anybody's thread to do it.

If you take a moment to read the thread
and see for yourself what really happened,
you won't be telling me now that I am
running a campaign against wheels for
calling me a "tosser", lol.

Or that it is "personal".

You can see what she did
and why it is worse than
what you or others have done.

I'm just asking that people see
and admit what she did to me and Yin.

She tried to break us up. Period.

She insulted me and the poem,
right out of the gate, and I ignored it.

I redirected her to a poem that
was less likely to offend her tastes.

But she was determined to fight,
and to provoke me into a fight with her.

You can see for yourself,
if you are flexible enough
to look and see and think.

I don't blame you for having
a low opinion of me, because
of the arrogant things I allow
myself to say at times when
I get especially frustrated.

But I'm not half as arrogant
as I allow myself to appear.

I do it, mainly, to be cheeky.

People decided a long time ago
to see me that way, and I guess I
decided to play along with it,
just to p!ss them off.

The same may be said for other
aspects of myself which I've been
too honest about and too quick to
misrepresent for the purpose of
annoying the people who judge me.

The forum is pretty much ruined for me
because of all the people who have made
up their minds about me, and because I
can't help but play into those images
when they really p!ss me off and I feel
like p!ssing them off right back.

Then again,
maybe I'm just a jerk.

I don't think so.

I think I'm somewhat different,
and the lack of understanding and
the lack of tolerance I've received
on account of my differences has led to
me developing some nasty character flaws.

But I still try to explain,
and to reason with people who
say the most hurtful things to me.
Like what you said on the denim thread.

I'm a lot of things, pire.

And I know it's not your problem,
and I don't expect you to take the time
to understand somebody like myself, but
I'm asking you not to make assumptions,
and not to see only the worst in me.

I have nasty demons, but
I have some amazing angels, too.

If you think the angels
aren't worth contending with the demons,
well, then, you've every right to dismiss me,
and find me unworthy of the effort it takes
to appreciate me. I don't blame you.

But there are angels, and people, like Yin,
who think they're well worth fighting for.

All I ask is that you ignore my threads
and try not to personally attack me in them
when I stand up for myself and my fiancee
to a vicious assault on our relationship.



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LEXX
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posted May 06, 2010 02:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
pire
quote:
I didn't know the meaning of tosser
I just posted a link which explained that.

quote:
Wanker is a pejorative term of English origin, common in Commonwealth and ex-Commonwealth countries, including Canada, Britain, Ireland, Australia, New Zealand, and South Africa. It initially referred to an onanist but has since become a general insult.

It is synonymous with tosser.



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AbsintheDragonfly
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posted May 06, 2010 03:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AbsintheDragonfly     Edit/Delete Message
I'm sure you felt bad, Valus. Probably the same way other people feel bad here, when you decide to go off on them. I know I myself felt similar when Kevin was in the hospital, when I was trying to apologize to Jwhop for the mean things I had said to him, and you felt the need to hijack that thread just to try to make a point, in an argument you were having about how "mean" Jwhop is.

Did I throw a tantrum about how you'd ruined my post? Nope. Did I carry on to try to get everyone to see how mean you were? Nope. Did I demand that someone punish you? Nope.

Let it go.

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We cannot seek or attain health, wealth, learning, justice or kindness in general. Action is always specific, concrete, individualized, unique. --Benjamin Jowett


It is in giving that we receive. --Saint Francis of Assisi

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pire
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posted May 06, 2010 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message
I'm not fan of copy/paste reply esp on my phhone but you took time to reply so I shall do the same

"pire,
So, you haven't even read the thread yet?"

I did but either it has been edited or I take offence less easily.

"I've already explained, several times,
that I ignored wheels when she called me
a "tosser" and when she called me a "joke"."

I have noticed that oftenwhen attacked, you don't reply. I have seen that as cowardness first, then strength because I believedb that you were internalizing positively the critics.

"Almost anybody here would have reacted
more aggressively and been excused for it."

that's the type of assumption that irritate me.

"I ignored both of those insults.
I moved on, as Kat now likes to say.

The next morning,
after people had moved on,
wheels opens my thread."

why is she responsible? I never understood these concepts of MY thread. if it's on here, then it's everybody's, nobody own it, like an idea doesn't belong to the one who thinks it, it just IS, without any ownership; so she opened A thread in my opinion, not YOUR thread

"It's a poem which, granted,
makes me sound like a martyr
and puts others in a poor light,
but it's brief and unspecific."

tosser is a brief word too, only 2 syllables. but it hurts, right?

"Nobody is named or treated to insults
that target their individual sensitivities,
and I didnt hijack anybody's thread to do it."

you deserve a prize! oh no, a nobel prize! but unfortunately the list of the "jones" who don't attack personally others and hijack their threads are numerous, so grab a ticket, and get back in the queue.

"If you take a moment to read the thread
and see for yourself what really happened,
you won't be telling me not that I am
running a campaign against wheels for
calling me a "tosser", lol.
I'm just asking that people see
and admit what she did to me and Yin.
She tried to break us up. Period.
She insulted me and the poem,
right out of the gate, and I ignored it.
I redirected her to a poem that
was less likely to offend her tastes.
But she was determined to fight,
and to provoke me into a fight with her.
You can see for yourself,
if you are flexible enough
to look and see and think."

I plead guilty, I'm not very flexible, like you are not very tolerant of those who don't label you a genius. everyone is somehow flawwed and we must live with it.

éI don't blame you for having
a low opinion of me"

here again, an irritating assumption, you don't know what I think of you...

"because
of the arrogant things I allow
myself to say at times when
I get especially frustrated."

you mean VERY VERY arrogant

"But I'm not half as arrogant
as I allow myself to appear.
I do it, mainly, to be cheeky."

I know the feeling, but it can easily become a trait of caracter at least on an online personality.

"People decided a long time ago
to see me that way, and I guess I
decided to play along with it,
just to p!ss them off.
The same may be said for other
aspects of myself which I've been
too honest about and too quick to
misrepresent for the purpose of
annoying the people who judge me."

I truly understand, I often do the same to hide my vulnerabilities

"The forum is pretty much ruined for me
because of all the people who have made
up their minds about me, and because I
can't help but play into those images
when they really p!ss me off and I feel
like p!ssing them off right back."

assumption again. I arrived here and insulted jwhop but nobody hold a grudge (at least openly) against me after I sincerely apologised and tried the best I could to show that I got the advices on board. this place is cool not because the backgroundd is pink and purple only

"Then again,
maybe I'm just a jerk.
I don't think so."

I don't think you ARE a jerk but as you agreed above, you BEHAVE like a jerk here.

"I think I'm somewhat different,
and the lack of understanding and
the lack of tolerance I've received
on account of my differences has led to
me developing some nasty character flaws."

ok, if you can apply that to anyone apparently against you on this forum, you'll have changed drastically in no time.

"But I still try to explain,
and to reason with people who
say the most hurtful things to me."

that's called love, I can't possibly excuse you for that

"I'm a lot of things, pire."

got it

"And I know it's not your problem,
and I don't expect you to take the time
to understand somebody like myself"

this is painful, it sad you are on the other side of the atlantic cause I'd love to hug you right Now, I like you more than you seem to think.

"but
I'm asking you not to make assumptions,
and not to see only the worst in me."

trust me, before I looked at the bad, I've seen the good, but you already have a very high opinion of yourself and don't need my confirmation, but chill, I actually know you more than valus thinks, that's all I can say. and the good is very good

"I have nasty demons, but
I have some amazing angels, too.
If you think the angels
aren't worth contending with the demons,
well, then, you've every right to dismiss me,
and find me unworthy of the effort it takes
to appreciate me. I don't blame you.
But there are angels, and people, like Yin,
who think they're well worth fighting for."

here, another gem that is good for everyone.

"All I ask is that you ignore my threads
and try not to personally attack me in them
when I stand up for myself and my fiancee
to a vicious assault on our relationship."

I can promise you to not insult or attack you in a nasty way but I can't promise you to stay away from YOUR (?) threads. also, I must say that as long as you'll be trying to ostracize and may be get wheels banned, I'll be against you

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Valus
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posted May 06, 2010 03:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Valus     Edit/Delete Message

LOL.

You think you know, but you don't.

Why can't you mind your own business?

What does this have to do with you?

You want to make it about you?

By bringing up things from years ago
that happened between you and me?

I vaguely remember the instance you're referring to from ancient history. Most of all, I remember paying for it, lol. Through the nose. Maybe it's time you let that go? But first, remind me.. Did I viciously attack you over and over again, trying to provoke you into a fight? Did I try to break up your relationship with Kevin, and to make him see what an "abuser" you are? Did I call you a "worthless sack of sh!t"? Nope, I don't think I did! But maybe there's something I said even further back that you can find? Oh, sure, it was years ago, and not nearly as bad as what wheels did, but - but - but...

Stop telling me to drop it and I'll drop it.

Stop bringing up things I said or did years ago,
that I've already paid for and apologized for,
and that don't begin to compare to what wheels did.

And I will drop it.

I've already dropped it, actually.

This is me dropping it.

It's dropped.

So, who wants to pick it up,
and keep this thing going??

Pire? Kat? AD? Who's next?


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AbsintheDragonfly
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posted May 06, 2010 04:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AbsintheDragonfly     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
Why can't you mind your own business?

LOL We're on an INTERNET public forum, and you say that?

quote:
that don't begin to compare to what wheels did.

This is YOUR opinion Just like other people have their opinion about what is worse than what. It's interesting to see how you act when YOUR feelings are the ones that are hurt, somehow they come across as more important than other people's feelings, or hurt worse than other people's feelings. Bringing up examples of your repeated abuse of other members is a fair comparison.

I've been here since 2000, and have seen you play out this pattern many times Steve.

Nothing new under the sun.

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Musette
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posted May 06, 2010 04:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Musette     Edit/Delete Message
I find it very interesting that the thread wherein Valus hurt the feelings of many board members by viciously attacking them (including Ghanamina, who left permanently due to the attacks) has been deleted. And yet the thread where Wheels of Cheese supposedly hurt the feelings of Valus and Yin is still around, making it really convenient for Valus and Yin to point fingers at her.

That is censorship for the purpose of whitewashing. So, just so I am clear on this, if Valus can use a thread against someone else it can be locked but not deleted? And yet if a thread makes Valus look really bad, then it gets deleted? I don't understand why Valus is complaining about moderation on this site when he's the one who benefits from it. Pfft.

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Valus
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posted May 06, 2010 04:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Valus     Edit/Delete Message

pire,

Thank you for trying to understand and for being a little kinder. That's all I can ask. But it upsets me that you would interpret it as cowardice when I don't respond to an attack. Are you determined to see the worst, even in a tolerant action? I respond to many attacks, often answering the questions posed, point-by-point, with thorough explanations. If I pass some of them by, it's because I'm feeling generous, or because I've a dozen other people to respond to, or because their arguments are infuriatingly shallow and not worthy of my rebuttal. I used to respond more than I do lately. I stopped because I never received the same treatment that I gave. I still recieve demands for answers to every question from people who habitually leave most of my questions to them unanswered. Cowardice has never been a factor, and I find it a little absurd that you would think so. I've been honest about the most sensitive areas of my private life. I've provided my enemies with ammunition to attack me, for god's sake! I've accused myself in the midst of attacks, and admitted to mistakes nobody else saw. I've stood up and not backed down against a dozen or more of them throwing accusations my way, ignoring my logic and my questions, wailing at me, and encouraging one another in their viciousness. And I kept coming back for more, even when it was interpreted as me "dragging it on" and being the instigator. I've shown more courage in the face of enemies and accusations here than most, and maybe more than anybody. If you disagree, I dare you to find a single example of somebody here standing their ground against a dozen hysterical women who would rather tear reason apart than listen to it. I've given way too much of myself. I've accepted way too many unworthy challenges, and given way too many explanations to dogs. Now you will interpret it as cowardice, when I refuse to respond to a blatant provocation? LMFAO! No offense, but, to hell with you then, Sir. You don't understand me half as well as you pride yourself on doing. I think we've spoken enough for today. ~ take care

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shura
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posted May 06, 2010 04:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message
absinthedragonfly = goatgirl? Wonderful!

I remember the thread in question. You displayed an outstanding degree of character that day, absinthedragonfly. It was inspiring.

Valus, I apologize for inadvertently dredging up a painful experience. I haven't visited the board in months and I didn't realize the extent of the damage.

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pire
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posted May 06, 2010 04:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message
I'm sorry for making it sound like cowardice. this bit was wrong in the light of your explanation. sorry

take care too

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Yin
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posted May 06, 2010 04:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yin     Edit/Delete Message

Musette, I find it very interesting too. Have you complained to the moderator who deleted it?
Or do you simply must kick your two cents in to add more fuel to the fire?

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