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Topic: Moderators And The Cliques Who Love Them (No Nominations, Please)
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Musette
Knowflake Posts: 112
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Registered: May 2009
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posted May 06, 2010 04:42 PM
 
Yin, I didn't create this fire so don't even attempt to blame me for any part of it. If Valus wants to complain about moderation it's only fair to point out how he benefits from unfair thread deletion/whitewashing.  And yes, I did send a message to Randall that the thread deletion was unfair censorship. But thanks for checking to ensure I did!IP: Logged |
Valus
Knowflake Posts: 2692
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Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 06, 2010 04:46 PM
Musette,lol, they keep coming. Who the heck are you, lol? Another marginal character
with an opinion to share? Looking to cash in on some LL drama? Nobody can blame you for fanning the flames
of a fire others are trying to put out, right? You know nothing about what
happened on the denim thread. I made a comment to Ghani that nobody saw. Ghani responded in all caps, swearing,
making it look like I exposed her, and
saying vicious, personal things about me. I'm not bringing it up to hold it
against her, but to respond to your lies. Her outburst encouraged a number of others
to start venting their own insults on me.
You can see all of this on the thread. I responded to Ghani by apologizing to her,
because I believed I had behaved wrongly and provoked her; granted, her response
seemed excessive, but I took responsibility;
I let it go and I apologized. I was not so forgiving to the others. Ghani left, and now she's being evoked
as the quintessential victim here, lol. Clearly, there's a lot you missed. For one thing,
I'm not benefitting, lol,
and I'm not in charge of what gets locked
or "whitewashed" around here. If a mod would like to lock the thread
where wheels attacked me, I'd feel vindicated. Please, by all means, lock that thread. I don't want it bumped,
and I don't mind posting links to it,
if I have to. 'Nuff said. IP: Logged |
AbsintheDragonfly
Knowflake Posts: 299
From: Gaia
Registered: Apr 2010
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posted May 06, 2010 04:47 PM
Shura, it happened earlier this week or last. Not months ago.I think we should all keep in mind, that Wheels has not had a chance to apologize yet, if that's going to be the fly in the ointment here. IP: Logged |
AbsintheDragonfly
Knowflake Posts: 299
From: Gaia
Registered: Apr 2010
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posted May 06, 2010 04:51 PM
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I made a comment to Ghani that nobody saw.
I saw it, and many others did too. ------------------
We cannot seek or attain health, wealth, learning, justice or kindness in general. Action is always specific, concrete, individualized, unique. --Benjamin Jowett
It is in giving that we receive. --Saint Francis of Assisi
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eskimono
Knowflake Posts: 375
From: uk
Registered: Dec 2009
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posted May 06, 2010 04:55 PM
Right OK - ENOUGHWho am I? Nobody. But I saw what you posted to Ghanima, and I knew immediately what you meant. I know nothing of Ghanima's history, but I knew that you must know something that was deeply personal to her, and YOU exposed her. The only bullying I have seen going on here is from you. Intellectual bullying is worse than the overt kind that you are clearly familiar with. I see this in all of your clever posts, stories, poems - it is CLEAR to me and I don't know you. It is such a shame, as you do have things to say that should be heard and discussed. It's all about taking people with you, otherwise your 'great' ideas are meaningless. IP: Logged |
Valus
Knowflake Posts: 2692
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Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 06, 2010 04:56 PM
They deleted your thread, Yin? LOLI thought they just locked it. Yeah, that is curious. And I'm not benefitting, lol. If anything, that thread was an important
piece of evidence in support of my case. But people will believe
what they want to believe. I'm done with it. Please, drop it, all of you,
so I can drop it, too. Thanks.
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MyVirgoMask
Knowflake Posts: 2398
From: Bay Area, CA
Registered: May 2009
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posted May 06, 2010 04:57 PM
I saw it too.
As well as other things.I don't like that 'marginal character' comment either. I think it's mean. Everyone has an opinion, yes. What of it. I've tried bumping up the other mod thread as well btw I've dropped it, Valus. I really don't care one way or another actually. I want people to just be happy.
I'm going to go water my basil now, and my sunflowers
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AbsintheDragonfly
Knowflake Posts: 299
From: Gaia
Registered: Apr 2010
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posted May 06, 2010 05:01 PM
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But I saw what you posted to Ghanima, and I knew immediately what you meant. I know nothing of Ghanima's history, but I knew that you must know something that was deeply personal to her, and YOU exposed her.
Well said. IP: Logged |
Valus
Knowflake Posts: 2692
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Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 06, 2010 05:06 PM
Really, eskimono? Was that before or after she reacted and got everybody to look for something? Because nobody said anything until she exploded, and i doubt anybody noticed who didnt already know. If you honestly had a hunch it was about her, that says something. But its still just a hunch that I knew something. It doesnt mean I exposed her or put her in a position to expose herself. Anyway, I've apologized. That counts for something. She blew up at me like Vesuvius, and I apologized. So, where does that leave us NOW? After the flurry of insults and provocations from a dozen people and my insults and provocations back at them. After wheels came on my thread looking for a fight and trying to break up my relationship and insulting Yin. Now. Where do we stand?Fine, you have your opinion.
I still think what I've said
is not half as bad, but I don't
know how we can resolve that
matter of opinion, so, leave it.
I'm dealing with my sh!t, and
that's all I have or need to say. Wheels can apologize to Yin
when she gets back online. I don't want anything from her. Leave it now,
so we can leave it now.
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shura
Knowflake Posts: 224
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Registered: Jun 2009
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posted May 06, 2010 05:18 PM
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Shura, it happened earlier this week or last. Not months ago.
Yes, I saw the date. I only meant that I haven't been here in 3 or 4 months. I simply wasn't up to date on the latest LL catastrophe. Although, I suppose, if you've seen one, you've seen them all.  IP: Logged |
Valus
Knowflake Posts: 2692
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Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 06, 2010 05:18 PM
If anyone wants to debate whether or not I exposed Ghani by alluding to something in an indirect manner and in the form of a question... don't forget to discuss how that compares with numerous people openly exposing my most personal issues in a directly abusive and belittling way. Can we drop this now? Yes? Thank you.
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AbsintheDragonfly
Knowflake Posts: 299
From: Gaia
Registered: Apr 2010
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posted May 06, 2010 05:18 PM
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Yeah, that is curious.
Not really since Yin asked that it be deleted, and then after it was done, edited her post, changed it to say, locked. quote:
I still think what I've said
is not half as bad
It's not what you say, it's that you repeatedly show this behaviour, then when people let you know that you've hurt their feelings, you first try to brush it off, then when other people come in and let you know, "hey dude you hurt that person's feelings, you should apologize", you do, then go on about how misunderstood you are and such a horrible person, and you might as well (fill in the blank) usually involving some sort of bodily harm to yourself. THen people rush in to assure you that, no you aren't horrible, you're ok, we love you. Repeat ad in finitum. How many times do you need to play out this pattern? Try getting up off of that Pisces South Node for a change, and go for the Virgo helpfulness, and service. ------------------
We cannot seek or attain health, wealth, learning, justice or kindness in general. Action is always specific, concrete, individualized, unique. --Benjamin Jowett
It is in giving that we receive. --Saint Francis of Assisi
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eskimono
Knowflake Posts: 375
From: uk
Registered: Dec 2009
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posted May 06, 2010 05:19 PM
'Immediately' covered it for me.I have no interest in continuing this, and have no place in this argument. I am happy to bow out. None of this is pleasant. IP: Logged |
LEXX
Moderator Posts: 1561
From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat.........& LEXIGRAMMING... is my Passion!
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 06, 2010 05:24 PM
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but I knew that you must know something that was deeply personal to her, and YOU exposed her.
He has indeed spilled quite a few folk's private things. Or made so many public "hint hints that folks had no choice but to give the true facts to defend themselves, instead of others wondering what were these "secrets" he was hinting at...or outright telling incomplete versions of that he heard via others privately 
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Everyone is a teacher...
Everyone is a student...
Learning is eternal.
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AbsintheDragonfly
Knowflake Posts: 299
From: Gaia
Registered: Apr 2010
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posted May 06, 2010 05:26 PM
I want also to say that Valus, I DO like you, as much as it may seem otherwise to you at the moment. I DO value your contributions here. I would very much like to see you fulfill the why/how you incarnated on this Earth for. Seriously though, how long are you going to hold onto the South Node. You've read Jan Spiller, I've heard you talk about it. When I finally got tired of life being painful, and started using my Saggie North Node, life got much easier for me, which includes, being HONEST.IP: Logged |
Valus
Knowflake Posts: 2692
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Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 06, 2010 05:27 PM
shura,You couldn't have seen them all
if you've never really seen one. Maybe there's no one, and no all. Maybe there's only this seeing. Are you seeing? Or, Have you seen it all?
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pire
Knowflake Posts: 1342
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Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 06, 2010 05:32 PM
I'm a leo north node, in the second. Roarrrrr...IP: Logged |
Yin
Knowflake Posts: 1464
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Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 06, 2010 05:40 PM
AD, the thread was locked after I edited my request for deletion and asked for it to be locked. I can't edit deleted threads, so after the thread was locked like my post asked, I left it alone. I can speculate that someone didn't see the edits but why would they first lock it and then later on delete it? It makes sense to me that they must have seen the edit. Right? Again, I'm not a mod, I don't know. I asked for the thread to be restored if possible. IP: Logged |
Valus
Knowflake Posts: 2692
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Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 06, 2010 05:44 PM
AD,You want the truth? I'm wary of people like you. Or the kind of people
that I suspect you are. They twist things. For instance... I've expressed my hurt feelings
and asked certain people to
respect them by avoiding my threads. They respond by telling me
the threads i create aren't mine
and it's a public forum;
so f*ck me and my feelings. Then I post on cpn's thread
and she acts like she has
already asked me not to, lol. And people tell me
I'm not respecting
her wishes, etc, lol. Twisters. I respected her wish
the instant she made it known! While people continue
to use "public forum"
as an excuse to trample
my personal boundaries
and ignore my feelings. They twist things. I hope you're not like that. Yin said "delete",
but she meant "lock".
She edited it before anything happened.
You can't make edits after. So many people just see negative.
They're looking for something bad,
and even when there's nothing bad,
they find what they're looking for. Twisters. They're like that. IP: Logged |
AbsintheDragonfly
Knowflake Posts: 299
From: Gaia
Registered: Apr 2010
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posted May 06, 2010 05:45 PM
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Valus
Knowflake Posts: 2692
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Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 06, 2010 05:45 PM
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He has indeed spilled quite a few folk's private things. Or made so many public "hint hints that folks had no choice but to give the true facts to defend themselves, instead of others wondering what were these "secrets" he was hinting at...or outright telling incomplete versions of that he heard via others privately
LIAR. NAME ONE. 
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shura
Knowflake Posts: 224
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Registered: Jun 2009
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posted May 06, 2010 05:52 PM
You couldn't have seen them all
if you've never really seen one.lol clever as always, valus are you ready for greener pastures yet? IP: Logged |
LEXX
Moderator Posts: 1561
From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat.........& LEXIGRAMMING... is my Passion!
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 06, 2010 05:55 PM
Oh no mister!
Do not even start that freaking game
AGAIN
knowing damn well it involved an awful lot of behind the scenes private stuff that you exposed or hinted at or outright posted about several different people here!
I have been trying my best not to blow up at you Valus......
and frankly you are not worth my time!
And you accuse me of memory problems!IP: Logged |
Valus
Knowflake Posts: 2692
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Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 06, 2010 05:55 PM
God, I'm still so idealistic, I find it hard to believe people would deliberately lie and twist things like this. It still shocks me and sends me shivers. LEXX, You need to slow down and take a look at yourself. I assume you're thinking of the one time that I publicly told you I knew a secret about you. Oh my goodness!!! And the only "hint" I gave was that I didnt even think it was a big deal. I remember the incident well. Nobody knew anything, and you didn't share anything until much much later. Then, you shared your news of your own free will (and continue to do so), and not remotely on account of anything I said I knew about several years ago. Is there another instance you feel like twisting?
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Valus
Knowflake Posts: 2692
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Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 06, 2010 05:56 PM
LEXX,You're being evasive.
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