posted November 24, 2010 08:09 PM         

i don't usually stick up for people here. i think we are all grownups and able to handle ourselves, ultimately. recently i entered a thread where lara was talking about english classist stuff and being told she was full of it, being rude and hoity-toity, when it was the responders who were not undestanding what she was saying. because i spent years in england and mixed with people from all classes i knew she knew what she was talking about.

for this i was "lumped in" to "lara's gang", apparently, since PS took it on herself to be insulted that i considered she'd made a rather naive statement; so she came after me too. i have argued plenty on this board but i do my best to keep it civil and on point, not take up a personal vendetta.

randall, you know as well as anyone that lara is basically a loner. she has had plenty of arguments due to foot-in-mouth syndrome because, LIKE LINDA, she BLURTS at times due to impatience to get a point across. it is VERY RARE for ANYONE to chime in on her side.

from this you deduct a "gang mentality" on lara's part? she is right calling this pot kettle black, i feel. do you REALLY think it is lara linda would ask to leave? or those who have made it their mission to cut her down, because that is what is going on and if you don't like me saying so, sorry.

posted November 24, 2010 08:15 PM         

i for one think leaving the threads intact would have been the truthful thing to do. a lot of the commotion would never have happened if people could actually see what the fuss was about.

posted November 24, 2010 08:15 PM           

Lara is my friend.as DD is.and i respect and admire them as well as others who also left.

you and Lara have things to work on,different opinions can be handled im sure.

Lara has a good heart and she honestly is saying to you what she believes in.sometimes she is impulsive yes,and say things quite bluntly but this is not reason to call her drama queen.

i already said that i dont know all the facts,i dont know what really happened with T,Belgz and Spanky,i just saw a thing or two in the thread you posted.

but surely to make people like DD,MVM and many others leave,out of solidarity,something must be here.

again. if you say things like - we dont know the facts-- you as a Moderator can surely show us everything.

i still love LL and some people here.what i do not love is seeing people being banned because of no reason,others leaving,some others being compulsively provoked at,offended,just because people,like its natural,have different beliefs.

to be honest:i cannot move on. not untill i know all the facts and then be able to make a pondered decision about LL.and people here.

i must say DD leaving was a big faccade on me today.she saw things here that arent worthy of being on Lindaland for sure.that is why she left.and that is why we are pondering to leave too.

and its not Lara´s fault.nor she was the one who started the negativity and other things. i see that very clearly.because i know Lara+s heart.

and i must say;there were times when we had some real "fights" and then i went to read it all over again,and just realized it was all a matter of misunderstanding and lack of comunication.

Lara has a way of saying things.many times she is really being sincere,with good.hearted goals,but just because she is blunt,people take it personally.she says things like they really are - aries perhaps - and people aer not ready to hear what they do not wanna hear.

times ago i was one of them.but i learned and i grew up. and now if i go and read Lara´s older posts,i can surelly say that i totally understand where she is going.and where she came from.

posted November 24, 2010 08:30 PM         

I don't think the tough love approach works for Lara. She's a very passionate and bright woman. She communicates very bluntly which (as an Aries Merc) I appreciate and as a fellow Aries-Taurus mix I understand her standing her ground. Tough love is only going to make that more stoic.

This whole thing needs to be let go, but that has to be from everyone and anticipating attack, and being defensive, is part of the problem right now. Letting it go means letting it go. No more posts about letting it go. Actually doing it and creating threads about topics in relevant forums and no more mention of this.

posted November 24, 2010 08:31 PM           

and this all comes down to this: people who have made real friends here are sticking up to friendship-that is all.

and for justice and freedom of being who we are.

PA

posted November 24, 2010 08:32 PM         

Seriously. This might not be what you want to hear, and it might get me removed from LL, however, I feel this with all of my heart. This is only my opinion and you are as always free to do as you think best. As I said to you Randall, I've been here since late 2000, and this place means a great deal to me.

ADfly

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We justify ourselves each time we take a breath...

posted November 24, 2010 08:35 PM         

Everything you said in DD's now closed thread is EXACTLY what I wanted to say.
I couldn't have said it as gently as you so I bit my tongue thinking I'd get banned. I don't know why I bothered.

I have enough conflict in real life and that's the reason I rarely travel further than Astrology 2.0.
I assumed the debates there would be astrology related, THAT I could handle.

My home away from home doesn't feel like home anymore.
Lindaland really did feel like a home.
I wasn't as vocal as others but I was always here.
I learnt so much from so many of you here and now I'm losing many of you.
Lindaland continuing the way it is possibly does deserve to lose valued members.
Having no contact with any of you outside its walls means it's my loss too

I have a lot of love for those who have left and are now leaving.
Thanks guys, I will miss you all.

I didn't get the chance to ask DD to stay. The thread closed before I got there
She has always been one of my favourites.

posted November 24, 2010 08:37 PM         

and as for ami, she is the most positive person i know and she is very dear to me and we are very personal with each other...and she has extended herself to lara so there is nothing negative there

posted November 24, 2010 08:40 PM           

and it saddens me probably more than you.

we could say that this isnt real life - coming here and typping about astrology or any other thing - but the truth is that all of these things are part of our REAL Life- cause we choosed it to be so,when we 1st registered here.

i can say that i am the person i was today because of the people that i found here on LL-they are not strangers typping in front of a computer - some here are part of my soul family. and i dont care if someone says this is all nuts,cause i do believe in this - people get hurt here too.as much as we say we dont care,we do!!

there are feelings,deep ones here,behind of each nickname,and people cannot simply come here and spread their venomm expecting not to be felt.they not it will be felt and that is why this is turning out to be a big thing now.

that´s life. yes...but people who once came here to find nurturing,loving,and caring people.are instead finding judgmental ones,duality minds,some kiss-ass ones too..

Ra

posted November 24, 2010 08:49 PM         

The locked threads should be reopened, and there should be no more of this lockdown going on. People deserve respect and their freedom.