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andstuff
Moderator Posts: 2288
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posted September 28, 2013 09:37 AM
  
Hi Randall, I don't know where else to discuss this, but things are getting ridiculous as in here for example
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum18/HTML/001005.html users are unhappy with threads being moved, I am pretty helpless because I can't move them back to where they belong  Not meaning to start a power struggle, just saying. Because I don't know where else to discuss this. I tried talking to Jessica, but this cannot be done in a civilised manner and I am not aware of a way of doing it in a manner that is not civilised. I banged my head against her refusal to understand/discuss things enough times to give up. IP: Logged |
Jessica2407
Moderator Posts: 4221
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Registered: Sep 2012
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posted September 28, 2013 09:44 AM
Here comes Andstuff...@Randall, I kindly request that clear guidelines are set for mods to follow. Threads have been moved from PR to TTLG by myself and Empress. I will only speak for myself though,I don't have time to get entangled in petty fights here. If a thread should be moved, it will be moved, I find it unpleasant to have to explain this simple fact to a mod. IP: Logged |
andstuff
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posted September 28, 2013 10:05 AM
oh holy foxtrot... Ok, I will do my best to stay civilised to the bitter end link number one, in which I proposed to move card meaning discussions to TTLG [general! meaning! discussions! not case studies! not discussions on specific spreads!]. this was supposed to be done on a trial basis to see if TTLG could become similar to Astro 2.0. Astro 2.0 is not for case studies, it is for general discussions on aspects.
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum11/HTML/007998.html
link number two in which Randall was confused as to why threads were moved http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum18/HTML/000952.html
it IS inconvenient to move interps of particular spreads from Personal Readings. And users are confused and unhappy. Or at any rate it would not hurt to ask what everyone thinks. Apparently not everyone is happy. This is all I pointed out. I - naively? - assumed the board exists for the users and for their pleasure and convenience. If not then whatever. Talk about learning one thing a day. *off to watch football* IP: Logged |
Randall
Webmaster Posts: 32963
From: Saturn next to Charmainec
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 28, 2013 11:40 AM
This is more about a personality conflict between two Mods than it is about the technicalities, but let me digress on that. Originally, TTLG was created for Tarot. Personal Readings was created because the requests were being posted in TTLG and clogging up other Forums. I am trying to get TTLG back to its original intent, and the Forum will pick up as word gets out. The problem with general Tarot threads in PR is that they get buried quickly. That's the reason we decided to move relevant ones to TTLG. PR should be requests for readings only. Card interps should be in TTLG. At least for now, while we see how it works. No one should take it personally if a thread is moved. Those who do Tarot readings will go to TTLG to lend their input. It's not like a longer ride across town or anything. lol And my bad about not telling the Mod rule about not moving Mod threads to the newest Mods. IP: Logged |
andstuff
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posted September 28, 2013 11:54 AM
I don't have a personality conflict with anyone. Just certain bright minds have taken a liking to pretending I have a low IQ or something. I have been going out of my way to be nice and friendly because - ta-da! - natural born empaths tend to be that way, we don't seek conflicts/aggravation because this makes us physically unwell, and I'm not really one of Sacher-Masoch's followers. I just don't like it when people seek opportunities to humiliate me for no reason at all.
The thing is that interps of spreads are closer to personal readings than to card meaning discussions, even these threads normally get too personalised, much like in request threads. Which is why I was surprised. I might have overlooked it when it was discussed but since I initiated (or, to put it more appropriately, re-initiated) this whole moving thing I thought there was nothing I missed out on. If I did then I'm sorry, and quite genuinely. Just really "help with interps" are different from general discussions. "what are meanings of 8 cups" is for TTLG "i pulled 8 cups - wheel -bla-bla-bla when asking if my cat was accepting treats from my neighbour" is really more appropriate in PR. A distinction was never made between these 2 categories. But if originally [i.e. before Jessica made her lovely plan to "re-organise the forum" - were you aware, incidentally?] these kind of threads were meant for TTLG (were they, Randall? because I believe this to be the crucial question) I'd be more than happy to move them over there without a murmur. IP: Logged |
Hera
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From: Aries fantasy land ^_^
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted September 28, 2013 12:28 PM
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Originally posted by juniperb:
Thank you for the gentle bump, Miss Juni! IP: Logged |
NoRainNoRainbows
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posted September 28, 2013 12:30 PM
you guys just made my day that my own laptop is broken if this is what i'm missing so far  i usually just go to Randall, as i have no clue how to move threads, and i doubt anyone was trying to insult anyone by moving them. some real silliness over here, is all am seeing. i'm also surprised by how being civilized seems to be the challenge to many people these days...going back to reading about the killers in Kenya, now asking someone where they are from, and if they are single or not just to see if they should be killed or not, that is to be taken personally to the nth degree...but about this moving threads, by okay an enthusiastic moderator, on friendly astrology forum, is a bit much. IP: Logged |
charmainec
Moderator Posts: 7298
From: Venus next to Randall
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 28, 2013 12:35 PM
We all make mistakes. We all learn from them.Don't spend too much energy on a misunderstanding. All is clarified. Let's move on.  IP: Logged |
andstuff
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posted September 28, 2013 12:43 PM
@NoRain: I was not saying being civilised had anything to do with moving threads. You're right, it doesn't. I asked Jessica about a billion times to give me a link to the decision to move "help with interps" to TTLG. She keeps ignoring me. Also she said she intends to make fun of me and humiliate me publicly because she is "the queen of sarcasm". But whatever. I have been attacked by chavs all my bloody life, I am barely affected by this sorta thing. It breaks me up though that when I say something mildly harsh millions rush to teach me about manners, but when someone openly / maliciously undermines me there's always a reasonable explanation, ratifying this humiliating rubbish I am supposed to read which I didn't do anything to deserve. Double standards, whatever. My fav club has just won a football game so I'm quite happy to stop complaining IP: Logged |
Jessica2407
Moderator Posts: 4221
From: Saturn
Registered: Sep 2012
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posted September 28, 2013 01:34 PM
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Originally posted by Randall:
This is more about a personality conflict between two Mods than it is about the technicalities, but let me digress on that. Originally, TTLG was created for Tarot. Personal Readings was created because the requests were being posted in TTLG and clogging up other Forums. I am trying to get TTLG back to its original intent, and the Forum will pick up as word gets out. The problem with general Tarot threads in PR is that they get buried quickly. That's the reason we decided to move relevant ones to TTLG. PR should be requests for readings only. Card interps should be in TTLG. At least for now, while we see how it works. No one should take it personally if a thread is moved. Those who do Tarot readings will go to TTLG to lend their input. It's not like a longer ride across town or anything. lol And my bad about not telling the Mod rule about not moving Mod threads to the newest Mods.
THANK YOU for clearing the air about moving tarot cards/spreads interp to TTLG. From now on these should be posted exclusively in TTLG. Mods in that forum are there to ensure it is done smoothly. Re mods threads that are allowed to be posted in forums that are not appropriate, I wasn't aware of such a rule which I personally find an abuse of mod power. Members should be encouraged to post their threads in appropriate forums and the encouragement should come from mods. @Andstuff, I don't answer to YOU.I don't even read your posts. They bore me to tears. If you need clarification on your duties/new rules/anything under the sun that regards LL, please contact Randall. He is the right person to clear up your doubts. IP: Logged |
andstuff
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posted September 28, 2013 02:07 PM
^ ok Miss Politeness, whatever you say. If this shuts your mouth and stops you from undermining me, I will agree to everything 1) I will agree that it was not you that tried to be mean to me earlier today in hanna's thread in TTLG 2) I will agree that by being mean to me earlier today in hanna's thread and by quoting my post you were not "answering me" 3) i will agree that the way you treated Dee was top notch civilised and you demeanour is irreproachable when no one understands what you're up to and you don't think fit to condescend to explain (see the link to your lovely conversation with Diplopoda) 4) i will even bloody well agree answer is a transitive verb and is not used with a dative and TO under the circumstances is for losers like myself [but if I agree to all of this, what will it change?] IP: Logged |
Randall
Webmaster Posts: 32963
From: Saturn next to Charmainec
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 28, 2013 02:10 PM
I do agree that interps should be in TTLG. It doesn't mean move them all over from the past. But definitely new ones and those that are bumped. The thread Dee posted, though, wasn't in the wrong Forum (IMHO, although it could be open to interpretation), as TTLG is not ONLY Tarot, but divination of all sorts. It also could have gone in UC, as well. I don't think there was any malice in moving it. Jess is just following my instruction and doing her duties.IP: Logged |
andstuff
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posted September 28, 2013 02:25 PM
@ Randall: ok I wasn't sure. But if it is so, I have no more questions. Sorry for taking up your time and thanks. I said I don't mind moving new "help with interp" ones if this is how it should be, and indeed I don't. Maybe Jessica is just not good at communicating in English, so people get confused and unhappy now and then. But well this just sort of happens, for reasons best known to the universe. But then maybe I am not entitled to make this kind of comments. Anyway. I didn't mean to cause any unrest/disturbance. IP: Logged |
Jessica2407
Moderator Posts: 4221
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Registered: Sep 2012
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posted September 28, 2013 02:37 PM
Andstuff, you are so pathetic. Seriously.Grow up. I'm going to ignore you from now on. I have no time or patience to interact with the likes of you. IP: Logged |
Randall
Webmaster Posts: 32963
From: Saturn next to Charmainec
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 28, 2013 02:38 PM
I chose great Mods who have strong opinions, so conflicts are expected sometimes, but Mods should try to get along. Can't expect Knowflakes to get along if Mods can't.IP: Logged |
andstuff
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posted September 28, 2013 02:40 PM
-edited-not stooping not stooping not stooping Randall, I have done everything I could to get along with that woman. I'm totally washing my hands clean. Not like I'm supposed to beg her to conduct dialogue that is civil on a public board. Not after being insulted numerous times. Never been the one to humbly nod when insulted, not gonna start now. I am not the one who provoked conflict in the first place. IP: Logged |
Jessica2407
Moderator Posts: 4221
From: Saturn
Registered: Sep 2012
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posted September 28, 2013 02:46 PM
I don't talk down to people. I do not insult people. and I don't take it lightly when I am insulted. Have you ever seen me insult someone on this board?? Andstuff not only tries to pick fights, she is insulting on so many level and I'm tired of her taunts and contemptuous negative attitude. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted September 28, 2013 02:48 PM
Ignore each other, please.IP: Logged |
Jessica2407
Moderator Posts: 4221
From: Saturn
Registered: Sep 2012
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posted September 28, 2013 02:49 PM
Well sounds like you understood my English. I am not here to get along with you andstuff. May be you were under the misconception that I was here to get along with you! When I moved a thread next time from a forum that I moderate to another forum (that I happen to moderate), kindly respect it. That's all. IP: Logged |
Jessica2407
Moderator Posts: 4221
From: Saturn
Registered: Sep 2012
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posted September 28, 2013 02:50 PM
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Originally posted by Randall:
Ignore each other, please.
done. because I'm getting angry. IP: Logged |
juniperb
Moderator Posts: 7515
From: Blue Star Kachina
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 28, 2013 02:53 PM
Being a Mod is about an ability rather than power. A power says we have authority or control and we do not; Randall does
A Mod has the ability to keep their forum/s running smoothly and done with with courtesy. That is our responsibility and one we should carry out with integrity. Mods should set the example not be the example . If we can not act courteous to one another , we can not expect another to to act any better. If we want to wear the Mod hat, we don`t have to like one another but we do need to act nice to one another. “We cannot expect people to have respect for law and order (moderating) until we teach respect to those we have entrusted to enforce those laws.”
¯ Hunter S. Thompson “I speak to everyone in the same way, whether he is the garbage man or the president of the university.”
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andstuff
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posted September 28, 2013 02:59 PM
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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
When I moved a thread next time from a forum that I moderate to another forum (that I happen to moderate), kindly respect it.
ok got it. when you moved a thread next time i will had kindly respecting. no more questions  quote:
Originally posted by Randall:
Ignore each other, please.
I have been doing this for several weeks of my own accord because I was scared of being attacked. So obvs I'd be delighted to keep doing so. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted September 28, 2013 04:23 PM
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Originally posted by andstuff:
-edited-not stooping not stooping not stooping Randall, I have done everything I could to get along with that woman. I'm totally washing my hands clean. Not like I'm supposed to beg her to conduct dialogue that is civil on a public board. Not after being insulted numerous times. Never been the one to humbly nod when insulted, not gonna start now. I am not the one who provoked conflict in the first place.
Ignore, Friend. I have been a Mod for about 4 years. The hardest lesson but THE most valuable is to ignore.
I screw up and don't ignore and get into it. I screwed up a few weeks ago, actually, but one's TRUE POWER is in ignoring. 
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andstuff
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posted September 28, 2013 05:20 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Ignore, Friend. I have been a Mod for about 4 years. The hardest lesson but THE most valuable is to ignore. I screw up and don't ignore and get into it. I screwed up a few weeks ago, actually, but one's TRUE POWER is in ignoring.
Thank you Ami, maybe yeah I should. It's weird how people start harassing one literally for no reason at all. I'd better get used to it. Every time I say to myself they do it because such is their nature so it's not even that personal, but keep forgetting. I had to live under the same roof with people who all but wanted to kill me because I told them not to leave piles of dirty dishes in the kitchen, that makes one immune enough to nearly everything in the long run. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted September 28, 2013 05:32 PM
I have seen it in most cases. When someone is a Mod, they get hassled. I don't know why. I have seen at least 2 Mods leave because they couldn't take it. One was always dissing how the Mod's did things and when he got to be a Mod, he lasted a week. Bottom line is this. You will grow. You will change. You will learn from failure. You will learn from screwing up as that is the only way to learn, for me anyway. However, if you stick with it, you will develop a wisdom that is worth everything
PS You can always write to me, Friend. Lalalinda has always been there for me and I try to be there for others.
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