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Topic: Samantha Brick claims women hate her because she's to pretty
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aquaguy91
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From: tennessee
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted April 05, 2012 08:05 PM
  
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Originally posted by PixieJane:
And btw, looks like guys have the same problem:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2012/apr/04/samantha-brick-hated-good-looks 
haha that article has to be a gag making fun of the other, because most men arent jealous of looks,if we are jealous of anything its money or power. IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius
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posted April 05, 2012 08:16 PM
I think we need her chart.
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ariesdragon
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From: Jupiter
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posted April 05, 2012 08:22 PM
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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
I think we need her chart.
Seriously.
Lol same thing I was thinking hahaha IP: Logged |
RegardesPlatero
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posted April 05, 2012 08:50 PM
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aquaguy91
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From: tennessee
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posted April 05, 2012 11:04 PM
Yea I see what you mean, but a lot of women sell themselves short,it blows my mind how many women there are who think they are fat eveen though they might weigh 120,lol that's not fat that's skinny, there's just too much pressure for women to be perfect,its ridiculousIP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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From: tennessee
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posted April 05, 2012 11:04 PM
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Originally posted by RegardesPlatero:
To be honest, I've felt threatened by women prettier than me, but I just don't act on it.It's a hard thing, though, on both sides. How can any woman shine next to another woman who's so much hotter than she is? How can she get people to notice her? But, on the other hand, is it fair to blame the pretty women for being pretty/genetically gifted? I mean, yeah, the stuck-up pretty types are not great people, but the more humble, normal types of pretty people: is it fair to fault them for simply being lucky? I can see both sides on this one.
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PixieJane
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posted April 05, 2012 11:59 PM
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
haha that article has to be a gag making fun of the other
It is, and I don't just consider it satire, I consider it downright mockery of Mrs. Brick. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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From: tennessee
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted April 06, 2012 12:06 AM
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Originally posted by PixieJane:
It is, and I don't just consider it satire, I consider it downright mockery of Mrs. Brick.
haha it seems like something the onion would do XD IP: Logged |
PixieJane
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posted April 06, 2012 12:12 AM
One thing I know is that what men desire visually varies by a lot man to man. Some want the skinny supermodels while others prefer curvy with meat on their bones (a few even prefer obese women). Some prefer the virginal and others prefer the promiscuous. Some like casual tomboys while others like the women with glasses and hair up in a bun. Some like 'em looking young and innocent while others prefer maturity and sophistication. Some prefer a specific race, hair color, or all kinds of other things. In short, who the man finds the hottest woman in the room is entirely dependent on the man himself and his specific tastes. And even then men frequently cheat on beautiful women with plain looking ones. And I'm convinced that at least a few men simply don't care, he's going to desire any woman who shows even the slightest interest in him regardless of appearance.
Men are weird. I recall one guy who casually shared how horny he got listening to fireworks and explosions. I meant to ask him for specifics on that as that was just so bizarre to me but his girlfriend (a friend of mine) changed the subject very fast.
IIRC I was 19 when a guy in his 30s (at least) kept coming onto me and seeming to get turned on even more by my rejecting his advances. A friend told me later that it was my look: androgynous, hair dyed 2 dark colors, tomboyish and athletic, studded belt and wrist cuffs, and black zipper boots. I changed my appearance so that I looked a lot more feminine for when I next went to where he showed up and he lost interest in me--but then others who had ignored me before suddenly showed interest.
Oh, yes, to stop guys from sexually harassing me I took to wearing a ring and claimed I was married. This didn't always work, and it was explained to me that a few men actually prefer married women for various reasons, sometimes seeing them as sexually experienced and perhaps bored (the bed death so many couples experience as novelty wears off) and be willing to have sex with no strings attached (as it would be so inconvenient to get a divorce) to the appeal of forbidden fruit and sometimes even a sick desire to despoil what someone else has. That is to say my wearing that ring (and saying "I'm married" when they put moves on me) made me hot to some guys. In short, I don't worry about my looks. I know even my flaws are appealing to some, either out of strange taste or simply because I seem more attainable. Even more importantly, I don't measure my value on how much men desire me (I suspect that this ironically turns some men on more than my looks). IP: Logged |
PixieJane
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posted April 06, 2012 12:15 AM
Like Mrs. Brick, I've experienced plenty of men who bought me things, or tried to. But unlike her I usually turn such offers down unless I know them because I find there's often a hidden price tag that I'm not willing to pay attached to such favors. And after having guys complain when they didn't get what they felt like they were entitled to, and even attacked a couple of times, I got real cautious about accepting any gifts. If Mrs. Brick enjoys the free drinks then more power to her, but she won't like it when she gets one with a roofie in it. IP: Logged |
PixieJane
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posted April 06, 2012 12:19 AM
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Originally posted by RegardesPlatero:
How can any woman shine next to another woman who's so much hotter than she is?
I'm surprised given how little you seem to desire the attention of men and find you get too much of it as it is. quote:
Originally posted by RegardesPlatero:
How can she get people to notice her?
Breathe?  (And come to think of it there are guys, thankfully rare, who'd prefer if you didn't...  ) IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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From: tennessee
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted April 06, 2012 12:28 AM
@pixiejane , i agree you can never tell what specific type people might go for ,so you should never sell yourself short. True story: me and my friends were hanging with some pretty girls at a club ,now my two friends are both ladies men , and myself i am not exactly smooth and i have low self confidence, well anyways my friends asked the girls who they thought was the most handsome out of us three and to my suprise they all pointed at me, that just goes to show you that you should never sell yourself short.IP: Logged |
sunshine9
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From: Beehive, MD
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posted April 06, 2012 12:59 AM
My first thought on reading the article was that it has more to do with her personality than her looks. She is somewhat attractive, though there is nothing unusual about her looks. I think that every woman has something or the other attractive about her. Some of you mentioned confidence - I think it's more likely that, and the way she projects herself. She thinks of herself as unusually beautiful, and projects that to the world, and people who are sensitive to that energy pick up on it and respond in the manner she expects.Did you guys notice her posture in the photos taken with her husband? Most people would cozy up to their significant others in pictures, and their body language would convey the feelings between them. At the very least, people in couples tend to stand close to their S.O. even if they're not feeling it at the time. In this woman's pictures, what I see is her husband tentatively trying to reach out and claim ownership (with his hand showing the wedding band on her, staking claim), but she stands there all smug and aloof, too busy striking a pose to reciprocate. In every single one of their pictures in the article, she assumes the same pose, showing herself off while he stands unsurely beside her. She's playing the part of the "trophy wife", which is probably how she views their relationship. Their friends must sense this, and that is why they are wary of her. Honestly, if this article isn't a spoof of some sort, it is a testament to her stuck-up attitude which is probably _the_ reason she doesn't have any female friends. Tsk tsk.. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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From: tennessee
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posted April 06, 2012 01:03 AM
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Originally posted by PixieJane:
Like Mrs. Brick, I've experienced plenty of men who bought me things, or tried to. But unlike her I usually turn such offers down unless I
ok, haha i have kept quiet long enough,i have seen this sentiment from several women on her and it has bothered me,so i'm just going to give the male perspective. Ok ,first off when a man likes or loves a woman he wants to feel needed and wants to be there for her,and that can include buying her dinner,doing household repairs for her,or just being a shoulder to cry on. now granted there are sleezy men who will buy you a drink and whisper sweet nothings in your ear in the hopes of "getting some" but there are alot of men who genuinely want to be of service to a lady because they care,i feel alot of women have twisted this out of proportion. I know alot of you have probably read men are from mars,women are from venus ,if i remember correctly it described in great detail how men want to be needed and of service. Now to the part of entitlement , i have been in the situation where i was the male friend but i let it be known that i had feelings for her,and she said there might be a possibility of a romantic relationship,and i did things for her " not because i was trying to get some" but because i geniunely cared for her,well anyways she met a guy at a party ,a guy who i knew personally to be a real douchebag, and she hopped right into a relationship with him, so yes i was kind of angry and i resented it a little bit,but not because i felt "entitled", it was because i cared about her and i wanted to be the guy she bragged about in facebook statuses and stuff,i wanted her to need me, i really loved her and wanted her to love me, so yes i was dissapointed,and the fact that i was rejected for a dirtbag broke my heart IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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From: tennessee
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted April 06, 2012 01:42 AM
^ ran out of space in the post above, anyways yes i was the dreaded niceguy i have saw several women talk about on here haha, but before you stone me,just put yourself in our ( the dreaded nice guys shoes) imagine this: you really like or love a guy and you are always there for him, always doing little things to show you care, and you pour out your heart to him and you are rejected, which always sucks, but not only that once you have confessed your feelings he begans to put distance between you, and things are never the same, than to top it all off you see him dating a girl you know to be a user and a sl*t ,and you know he will end up getting hurt by her,wouldnt that make you angry or hurt that he chose her over you? wouldnt it be a dagger to your heart seeing the guy you love with a girl you know doesnt value him the way you would if given the chance? just food for thought....this has been the nice guys lamentIP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted April 06, 2012 03:04 AM
No I wouldn't be angry or hurt, but I would have probably figured it out a lot earlier that the guy didn't want me instead of playing the role of the martyr. Women are usually pretty keen to this (whether a certain man desires them or not) so it may be a gender difference thing. I've dated 'nice' guys, no problem w.them. What I do have a problem with are the categories, 'bad boys' 'good girls' 'nice guys' 'slu*s' etc. People are more complex than that.IP: Logged |
RegardesPlatero
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From: Storybrooke, Mr. Gold's Shop
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posted April 06, 2012 05:23 AM
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aquaguy91
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From: tennessee
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posted April 06, 2012 08:29 AM
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Originally posted by Lonake:
No I wouldn't be angry or hurt, but I would have probably figured it out a lot earlier that the guy didn't want me instead of playing the role of the martyr. Women are usually pretty keen to this (whether a certain man desires them or not) so it may be a gender difference thing. I've dated 'nice' guys, no problem w.them. What I do have a problem with are the categories, 'bad boys' 'good girls' 'nice guys' 'slu*s' etc. People are more complex than that.
i dont know if i 100% agree that women as a whole are anymore keen than men on knowing whether someone is interested or not, because otherwise you wouldnt see so many women speculating why isnt he calling anymore,why doesnt he take me out etc. I personally think that men and women are for the most part equally in the dark. and i dont like categories really either,but alot of people do , and used the category because i thought it would make what i was saying easier to understand IP: Logged |
Frozen Queen
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posted April 06, 2012 10:38 AM
I don't care much for her or her looks for that matter and I will state here that I did not click the link and therefore have no idea what she looks like. She might be considered good-looking; she may be not. That is beside the point here. The point here is: really?This statement is right up there with those girls who go, "Don't hate me 'cause I'm pretty!". It is a response that au contraire makes one look like a conceited snob. ------------------
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Yin
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posted April 06, 2012 10:50 AM
You learn to appreciate nice guys after you've had your heart broken, your self-esteem shattered and your dignity taken away by a "bad" boy. IP: Logged |
Diana
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posted April 06, 2012 12:32 PM
I think it's probably mostly her attitude. She probably has that certain something, allure, that men find attractive. I think she's fine looking, keep in mind, she's in her 40's, so her peers are also middle aged women and many women that age don't put much effort into their appearance, so maybe in that age bracket she is considered good looking. If I compare her to most other 40+ women, she's better looking than they are just because she looks like she puts effort into her appearance. Women are intimidated by other women, especially confident or good looking women,. The reactions to this article all over the internet show how catty women are, like God forbid a woman thinks she's attractive...I bet these same people have quotes on their FB saying to think you're beautiful and value and love yourself...Women are much harsher on women's appearance than most men. They love to critique it and tear it down. I'd love to see her chart! I'm guessing she has fire prominent, aries or leo. IP: Logged |
T
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posted April 06, 2012 12:50 PM
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Originally posted by Yin:
You learn to appreciate nice guys after you've had your heart broken, your self-esteem shattered and your dignity taken away by a "bad" boy.
So true!! IP: Logged |
T
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posted April 06, 2012 12:58 PM
Diana, I was thinking along the same lines; she might have a certain something about her that men are attracted to. Personally I think she's okay looking. Not drop dead gorgeous. First think I noticed is that it seems like her hair is thinning up top. Maybe not, but it's a bit thin up there and she has a large forehead.I'm odd in that I don't ever get jealous or intimidated by other women. I don't think in terms of "prettier" or "better body than me". Everyone is unique and beautiful in their own way. I appreciate beauty especially when it also comes from within someone. If I'm talking to someone I think is particularly beautiful I will tell them too. What one person finds attractive another won't, so why even bother with comparisons. Be happy with what you've got! IP: Logged |
T
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posted April 06, 2012 01:00 PM
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The reactions to this article all over the internet show how catty women are, like God forbid a woman thinks she's attractive...I bet these same people have quotes on their FB saying to think you're beautiful and value and love yourself...Women are much harsher on women's appearance than most men. They love to critique it and tear it down.
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Yin
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posted April 06, 2012 01:09 PM
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Originally posted by T:
I'm odd in that I don't ever get jealous or intimidated by other women. I don't think in terms of "prettier" or "better body than me". Everyone is unique and beautiful in their own way.
You are very,very lucky you feel and see the world that way, T.  I grew up with a low self-esteem, which I am trying to defeat as an adult but it's really hard. I'm in my 30-ies now but the average-looking little girl in me won't ever feel pretty enough. IP: Logged |
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