posted August 02, 2012 01:25 PM            

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posted August 02, 2012 10:26 PM            

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Originally posted by doommlord:
awwww <3 <3 <3

im not sure im well known enough to actually become one but thank you very much ami ^^

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LOL Well, it is up to Randall. We can just post our nominations! xxx

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posted August 03, 2012 05:08 PM            

i dont see how my age is relevant....also i do not have such a rich or professional backround as many people here do but i have been researching a lot and ami helped me a lot as well

randall

is teen spirit forum even active? cause people reraly post there...but il think about the offer

posted August 03, 2012 08:33 PM            

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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
If I remember correctly,he is a teenager and astro novice,like really novice.

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We have some other teens who are Mods. He is not a novice, either.

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posted August 03, 2012 08:40 PM            

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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
Your call!

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It is Randall's call, Venus.

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posted August 04, 2012 07:01 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
It is Randall's call, Venus.

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Thus...my ...reply...after....Randall's post..which contained a question...

What is a nomination without devil's advocate? A nom isn't worth much if doesn't spark interest of both sides.
Besides,I have noticed you have many pals among mods - elevated by your nomination,and that just reeks of forum-nepotism and monopoly.

posted August 04, 2012 07:44 AM            

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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
Thus...my ...reply...after....Randall's post..which contained a question...

What is a nomination without devil's advocate? A nom isn't worth much if doesn't spark interest of both sides.
Besides,I have noticed you have many pals among mods - elevated by your nomination,and that just reeks of forum-nepotism and monopoly.

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and what "side" do you mean? do you consider yourself a "side" that i should seek approval from?

also i did not force ami to nominate me...and i hope she does not pressure randall into making me a mod....i want to be chosen for my own abilities

posted August 04, 2012 09:02 AM            

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Originally posted by doommlord:
and what "side" do you mean?

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When you have nomination,you have two sides,pro & contra.

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also....you accuse ami of nepotism yet you turn her frienship with me as a reason not to choose me...which is not a valid reason[/B]

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It is a valid reason,her objectivity is influenced by it. That's a definition of nepotism,in rough terms.

posted August 04, 2012 09:16 AM            

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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
It is a valid reason,her objectivity is influenced by it. That's a definition of nepotism,in rough terms.

I feel it is time to pass the nominating torch to someone else.

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it is not... i have not pushed her to nominate me...and i have not pushed any others to accept me as moderator

even if i had asked myself you would have tried to use my friendship with ami as an exuse not to accept me

also...people are never objective...ami is not objective becuse she is familiar with me and YOU are not objective because you have no idea of my abilities and only judge me on the fact that ami nominated me

posted August 04, 2012 09:32 AM            

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also...people are never objective...ami is not objective becuse she is familiar with me and YOU are not objective because you have no idea of my abilities and only judge me on the fact that ami nominated me

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doomlord, you sound like a wise young man but I will add there is indeed a way to be objective

Simply read all the nomination threads and note who was nominated, by who and who got the job. End of any potential fracas here.

It is nice to meet you!

posted August 04, 2012 09:46 AM            

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Originally posted by juniperb:
doomlord, you sound like a wise young man but I will add there is indeed a way to be objective

Simply read all the nomination threads and note who was nominated, by who and who got the job. End of any potential fracas here.

It is nice to meet you!

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it is very nice to meet you too

i didnt manage to find the nomination threads you spoke of but i would really appreciate if you post a link to at least one (il delete this if il happen to bump into one)

posted August 04, 2012 11:29 AM            

If you remember we interacted on the foll. threads where I tried and was successful in helping you out with getting an interp of your chart from iQ--
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum28/HTML/001104.html
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum28/HTML/001106.html
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum28/HTML/001116.html

Just so you don't feel offended by anything VenusDiSirius has said, the focus is not at all on your capabilities (at least I don't think), and it is definitely not against any friendship you may have with the nominating Mod, AA, but more about the ...

... behind-the-scenes machinations, shall we say, that you're most likely completely unaware of.

For example, lets say you weren't nominated so much for your abilities as much as because you share some sort of "cultural heritage" with the nominating Mod, a "heritage" that has been openly talked about by her on different threads.

And let's say that should you be selected as a Mod, you would be expected to stick up for her in various discussions because you're now indebted to her, and that these expectations may even include your being pitted against other members.

An example of an attempt to pit you in such a situation is in this thread--particularly page 2, July 24, 6:30 pm post

http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum26/HTML/001288-2.html

Now if you were to be put in such an awkward situation, given your indebtedness, it would be hard for you to ... well ignore the nominating Mod's expectations ... I would think.

So it's usually wise to think things through with maturity and perception, lest we mess with our own karma due to someone's agenda .
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@ VenusDi,

Hiya, Venus

You're a long time member here and I just wanted to say it's good to have members who have perception and are willing to speak up for the benefit of all.

And I agree that, in the interest of fairness, the nomination torch should be passed on to someone else.

I also agree that a lot of nominations have already been made by the OP of this thread. And although technically it's not nepotism, it definitely results in an indebtedness which in turn results in all sorts of favoritism. This favoritism, when noticed by other members, leads to unhappiness and expresses itself as discord during discussions on different threads.

posted August 04, 2012 11:46 AM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
If it is favoritism for me to Mod someone who is befriended and recommended by a Mod, is it not also favoritism on your part for you to not desire that person to be a Mod due to you not liking the one who recommended it?

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posted August 04, 2012 11:51 AM            

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Originally posted by Linda Jones:
Hiya Doomlord,

If you remember we interacted on the foll. threads where I tried and was successful in helping you out with getting an interp of your chart from iQ--
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum28/HTML/001104.html
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum28/HTML/001106.html
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum28/HTML/001116.html

Just so you don't feel offended by anything VenusDiSirius has said, the focus is not at all on your capabilities (at least I don't think), and it is definitely not against any friendship you may have with the nominating Mod, AA, but more about the ...

... behind-the-scenes machinations, shall we say, that you're most likely completely unaware of.

For example, lets say you weren't nominated so much for your abilities as much as because you share some sort of "cultural heritage" with the nominating Mod, a "heritage" that has been openly talked about by her on different threads.

And let's say that should you be selected as a Mod, you would be expected to stick up for her in various discussions because you're now indebted to her, and that these expectations may even include your being pitted against other members.

An example of an attempt to pit you in such a situation is in this thread--particularly page 2, July 24, 6:30 pm post

http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum26/HTML/001288-2.html

Now if you were to be put in such an awkward situation, given your indebtedness, it would be hard for you to ... well ignore the nominating Mod's expectations ... I would think.

So it's usually wise to think things through with maturity and perception, lest we mess with our own karma due to someone's agenda .
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@ VenusDi,

Hiya, Venus

You're a long time member here and I just wanted to say it's good to have members who have perception and are willing to speak up for the benefit of all.

And I agree that, in the interest of fairness, the nomination torch should be passed on to someone else.

I also agree that a lot of nominations have already been made by the OP of this thread. And although technically it's not nepotism, it definitely results in an indebtedness which in turn results in all sorts of favoritism. This favoritism, when noticed by other members, leads to unhappiness and expresses itself as discord during discussions on different threads.

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my dear...thank you for explaining but i am aware of some of the wars that occur beyong the astro 2.0 forum and the accusation being made...

i DO NOT belive that i know enough about what is happening here to pick sides....ami is my dear friend but belive me that she heard that i have solid opinions as well....and i have confronted her about many things she has written in the privacy of my FB

if i am to be elected i will thank ami...but i will not be forced to respond or take sides by anybody...i will anwser if i will see an anwser is needed or if i will see that a person made a mistake

the fact that i live in israel does not shape my opinions towards amis side... my opinions are my own and came from my thoughts and views about the situation

posted August 04, 2012 11:54 AM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
If it is favoritism for me to Mod someone who is befriended and recommended by a Mod, is it not also favoritism on your part for you to not desire that person to be a Mod due to you not liking the one who recommended it?

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I didn't mean favoritism by you at all. I meant favoritism shown by the nominating Mod toward her selections who because they are indebted to her feel obligated to her to support her by taking her side.

For the record, I neither like nor dislike people. I like or dislike behavior and I show it by always supporting behavior that is honest and based on integrity, and usually feel free to speak up against behavior which is not (at least up to now at LL).

Again to be very clear, what I said to VenusDi had nothing absolutely to do with you. It had to do only with the OP and one of the reasons why so many fights break out in different forums.

posted August 04, 2012 12:03 PM            

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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:

It is not matter of being a friend to them,but being responsible,open-minded but strict and fair person. I may not like the person,but I can/will respect the work they do.
Since I don't have a name for nom to offer,I can hardly be accused of favoritism.

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Exactly! And what has been missing imo has been this fairness and open mindedness, and others notice it too which is why dissension arises resulting in fights which have nothing or very little to do with the situation at hand. Members build up their anger and then just let it out whenever.

posted August 04, 2012 12:12 PM            

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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
Hi,Linda And,yes,I am an oldie here,this month is 2 yrs If I knew how to bake properly,I would be so making a purple cake

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posted August 04, 2012 12:25 PM            

Everyone needs to make his own contribution to LL and use his energy that way, not in dislike of me, or anyone else.
That is immature and counterproductive.

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