posted September 28, 2009 06:49 PM            

Whatever

This is small change anyway.
Some people might indeed be lazy. research things, and think for themselves.

I posted the GOP tie because of the obvious hypocrisy.

But the PDF at the top of page 2..[JW, if reading all 54 pages is too tiring try the footnote links ]

Was of value to me if only to show the dismal state of journalism.

I thought NPR was pretty steady on. They were not in this instance. And I was surprised how MSNBC was more unbiased in their reporting than CNN, but lets face it, they all are wanting.

Where are the Journalists with integrity? They are on-line. This is why I watch / and listen to CSPAN I am a horses mouth kinda gal.

And the net becomes increasingly valuable, it must remain unfettered.

posted September 28, 2009 08:13 PM            

he also said that if ever we get too populated, or population concentrated in the cities, that we would become "as corrupt as the europeans we wish to separate from" or something to that effect.

however he lived in times where slavery was so normal that even a man like him who (allegedly) had a black mistress, couldn't see it was wrong...or maybe he was too smart to try to buck ALL systems at once. and people think that because subsequent presidents have tried to UPDATE the constitution to allow more equality of opportunity, that they are socialists.

these days EVERY politican has to deal with the corporations he talked about, the moneymen and lobbyists, etc. corrupt or not, we have all had dealings with corrupt people and companies. and often the most corrupt think they are doing it for the "right reasons" this is the same as "the end justifies the means" a rationalization hitler was fond of (amongst others)...and an excuse for every war ever fought.

posted September 28, 2009 11:43 PM            

There is no doubt ACORN falsified voter registrations.

There is no doubt ACORN, acting as mortgage brokers wrote loans for people who could not possibly make the mortgage payments. That's some of that "predatory lending" Puffington Post hyperventilates about.

There's no doubt ACORN contributed to the collapse of the financial sector.

Are those republicans who supported part of
ACORNS efforts hypocrites for now dumping on ACORN? Of course they are and that's one of the reasons McCain failed to get the conservative vote...but not only for appearing with or supporting some ACORN initiatives.

Some here think I support the republican party no matter what they say or do and would tell demoscats to stuff it no matter what they say or do.

posted September 29, 2009 08:16 AM            

While voter registration law does vary state by state, ACORN follows the same procedure across the country. in many states, laws require the submission of the registration forms — faulty or not. So, if the group is required to turn in the forms regardless, why the accusations?

"There is no doubt ACORN falsified voter registrations."

Well, the group flags them as problematic, fires the employee responsible, has a supervisor hand the forms in anyway, and encourages the state to prosecute the wayward ex-employee.

You are wasting my time. Beating distraction horses.

Acorn has never been found guilty of falsified voter registrations. You might investigate the difference between voter registration fraud and vote fraud. Which is something that those who would like to limit the registration of minorities are interested in. Cos they tend to vote Democratic??

NM US-ATTY was told to investigate, which he did for 2 years! He told Karl Rove there was nothing to investigate. He got fired. along with all the rest who got fired for "under performing"
Iglesias, a
Republican who was appointed to the post by President George W. Bush in 2001, lost his job in
December 2006 after he said he could not prove a voter fraud case against ACORN, and declined to
prosecute the group.

I am done with this.

p.s. the big number? The number of times voter fraud was reported in the last election?
14.

Read THE PDF!

posted September 29, 2009 12:44 PM            

voter fraud is not the exclusive territory of ACORN, either. and if you want to investigate/prosecute crooked mortgage activity, CITIBANK and others had a lot more clout than acorn in that arena. and didn't they get government funding for ruining the market - starting with mr bush and moving forward with this admin?

politics is a minefield of corruption. i both admire and shake my head in disbelief that anyone would be willing to subject themselves to the game, let alone run for president. of course no one REALLY knows till they get INSIDE the job exactly how MUCH of a mess they are walking into.

posted September 29, 2009 03:45 PM            

and why do you harp on ACORN in this mortgage fraud when you yourself posted their partnership with citibank, and know others were equally up to their eyeballs in creating that fiasco?

i don't think ACORN was involved in the ohio fiasco where more votes came in than there were voters in the state for bush's last "victory"...so why the big stink about this one body? are they really any worse than others?

posted September 29, 2009 05:25 PM            

ACORN works mostly tax free under IRS regulated tax exempt status. But that tax status demands ACORN be non-partisan and not campaign for any political candidates or political issues. They're also required to operate a true set of books and not co-mingle tax exempt and taxable income.

posted September 30, 2009 11:31 PM            

September 30, 2009
ACORN documents uncovered
Clarice Feldman

Today's ACORN story via Big Government involves Oklahoma:

A Republican state legislator released documents Tuesday which he says show the community-organizing group ACORN focused on helping Democrats in three legislative races in the November 2008 election and had developed a game plan to "take power" in Oklahoma within five years.

The documents, which include legislative district maps and various forms, were recovered from computers abandoned by ACORN workers in Oklahoma City, said Rep. Mike Reynolds, R-Oklahoma City. Also found was a script apparently used in Houston to go door-to-door to encourage voters to vote for Barack Obama in November 2008.

"They say they're not political, but one of the subdirectories was called political action plans," Reynolds said. "It was their political plans to take over key targeted races in Oklahoma City to show how powerful they are."