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lalalinda
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posted September 16, 2009 11:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message
A US judge in Virginia has set a 10 November execution date for the man behind the 2002 sniper attacks on the Washington DC area.

John Allen Muhammad was sentenced to death for the murder of Dean Meyers, one of 10 people killed during the shootings.

Muhammad's teenage accomplice Lee Boyd Malvo is serving life in prison for his part in the attacks.

Muhammad's lawyer said his client would appeal to the US Supreme Court.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8259319.stm

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posted September 16, 2009 08:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
Most people would say what's taking so long to execute this mass murdering terrorist.

Still, 7 years from sentence to execution is a lot faster than most.

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posted September 17, 2009 02:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message

I am not a believer in the death penalty. I also believe that death is too easy. I believe that he should rot in prison for the rest of his life.

Raymond

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the truth is it only matters relatively"

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posted September 17, 2009 08:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for carl     Edit/Delete Message
The death penalty is barbaric and not practiced by almost all nations around the globe. It doesn't hinder criminals as evidence of the many murders that occur in America, compared with Europe and Canada with significantly lower homicide rates and no DP. If you look at almost all of Europe, Canada, Australia and New Zealand, USA is the most dangerous country of the ones mentioned.

I don't blame it on lack of gun control so much as a huge lack of education in regards to proper gun use in America. As well as the fact that it is simply a violent country. I am totally for keeping with the 2nd amendment, but there needs to be a severe overall in regards to gun education and hopefully the violence shrinks in this culture. Also depressants and other drugs being pimped by the pharmaceutical company in conjunction with guns cause many of the gun disasters we have seen around the country in recent years. Many of the gun men were proven head cases who were on heavy medications.

1. Western and Central Europe homicide rate = 1.5 per 100,000 people.

2. USA is 6.1 per 100,000 people.

3. Canada is 1.85 per 100,000.

Funny how 1 and 3 don't have the DP.

Global Burden of Armed Violence Report. Geneva Declaration on Armed Violence and Development. and Wikipedia:
*http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_homicide_rate

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posted September 17, 2009 10:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
Hang him high...and all others who believe they have the right to kill for their ideological or religious beliefs...and who act on those beliefs.

Just don't wait 7-20 years to give them what they so richly deserve.

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cpn_edgar_winner
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posted September 17, 2009 04:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpn_edgar_winner     Edit/Delete Message
well carl the dp and homicide rates offer no correlation.

it is no more barbaric than late term abortions to the innocent who committed no crime.

happens every day probobly by the hundreds..and i am for the right to choose, but not once the fetus is viable and can sustain life. any neo natal unit can tell you that can be anytime in the third trimester.

although i personally would not want to answer for being the one to decide who deserves to die and who deserves to live.

touchy subject.

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posted September 18, 2009 03:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for carl     Edit/Delete Message
Um, yes, the DP and Homicide rates offer a very obvious correlation. In most of Europe, Canada, New Zealand and Australia, where there is NO DP, the homicide rates are very low, lower than America by far. In America, where there is the DP, homicide rates, ironically, are HIGHER.

DP DOES NOT deter murders.

Within America

"Indeed, 10 of the 12 states without capital punishment have homicide rates below the national average, Federal Bureau of Investigation data shows, while half the states with the death penalty have homicide rates above the national average. In a state-by- state analysis, The Times found that during the last 20 years, the homicide rate in states with the death penalty has been 48 percent to 101 percent higher than in states without the death penalty. "

I also mentioned nothing of abortions, so don't know why you bring that up.

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posted September 18, 2009 06:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
Well carl, I'm cheered to know that China...where you are...hasn't adopted the barbaric practice of executing criminals...or monks...or the religious...or those accused of crimes against the Communist state...or babies.

There is one thing to be said for executing murderers.

After they're executed, they will never murder another innocent victim.

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posted September 18, 2009 11:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
boil him in oil!!

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posted September 21, 2009 08:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
Naw, not need for any boiling oil.

Let's just apply the law...all of the law in dealing with this domestic terrorist.

Treason shall consist of making war against them...'the US and US citizens'...or giving aid and comfort to enemies.

This terrorist bast@rd should have been convicted of Treason and hanged. The same could be said of O'Bomber's A-Hole buddy, the domestic communist terrorist bomber, Bill Ayers.

What a salutary effect that would have had on other traitors in the United States!

As it is, he's getting off easily by comparison and he should have been executed within 6 months of conviction and sentencing.

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posted September 21, 2009 11:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
lol, jwhop, how is execution getting off easy? cause they took awhile to think about it?

and now you mention it some of the rightwing fringe are getting into treasonous waters too, shall we start hanging parties for entertainment?

i mean, even you are talking about undermining the government as much as you possibly can. who made you judge and jury?

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posted September 21, 2009 04:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
Really katatonic. Exactly what treason is happening on the right?

No, I really want to know what you think so fire away.

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posted September 21, 2009 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
attempting to undermine the government is a form of treason.

but tell me, how is execution getting off easy. would you rather he was tarred and feathered and dragged across all 50 states as an object lesson BEFORE he is put to death?

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posted September 21, 2009 07:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
Well then, perhaps I agree with you...if you mean O'Bomber is undermining the Constitutional government and governance of the United States.

If you wish to define that as treason katatonic, I wouldn't oppose you on that issue.

However, if you mean the "little touch me not O'Bomber" cannot be criticized for his utterly bizarre Socialist policies in a Center Right nation..well then katatonic, that's where we part company.

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posted September 21, 2009 08:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
when did i ever say you couldn't criticize whoever you want? the fact that you go so over the top with it tends to have the opposite effect to what you're aiming at though! carry on, tommy!


so far i have seen congress come up with a bunch of stupid bills and regulations, many of which have been altered before they hit the ground...and a president trying to fulfill the promise of protecting our rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness - all of which depend on one's health.

but we were talking snipers getting off easy, even though they're on the way to death row. i asked you what you think would be "suitable" punishment.

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posted September 21, 2009 10:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
Well, we used to hang horse thieves so I wouldn't be opposed to hanging a domestic terrorist murderer.

I couldn't disagree more with what you say O'Bomber is trying to do.

O'Bomber is attempting to make every American dependent on government.

That's not included in life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

Happiness is a government which stays within it's bounds and doesn't meddle in the affairs of citizens or the private sector. That's not the O'Bomber administration by a long shot.

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posted September 22, 2009 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
oh goody, in fact maybe we should have guillotine performances like they did in france in the 18th century! that would boost some stations' ratings!! and with modern technology we wouldn't even have to push people out of the way for a ringside seat!

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posted September 22, 2009 12:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
I know leftists cheer when US citizens are killed by terrorists katatonic. Leftists and terrorists have a common enemy; the United States and American citizens.

I know every effort is made to spare the life of every murderer no matter how heinous their murders...by brain dead leftists.

This domestic terrorist murderer is going to get exactly what he deserves. The problem is that it took 7 years to get him an execution date.

Now, you're the one suggesting execution by boiling oil or by guillotine, not I.

A perfectly good hanging would suffice or execution by firing squad would be equally acceptable. However, knocking this murdering bast@rd out with chemicals before executing him is not really the right method of execution for terrorists..domestic or otherwise.

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posted September 22, 2009 03:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
still looking for your minute of agony, eh? isn't that the basis of torture? punishment is not enough, it has to include AGONY. do you know the definition of the word SADIST?

i have not heard of one person, left, right or martian rejoicing over the death of innocent citizens anywhere. with the possible exception of the perps involved.

do you live in a B movie?

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posted September 22, 2009 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
As I said katatonic, you're the one who suggested "boiling in oil" as a method of execution for this domestic terrorist murderer.

Does that make you a sadist?

I'm beginning to have my doubts you're even an Earthling.

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posted September 22, 2009 08:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
- and i'm beginning to wonder if you even know what a sense of humour is!

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posted September 22, 2009 11:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
Perhaps katatonic, you've not heard of professor Nicholas DeGenova of Columbia University who wished America "a million Mogadishus". I would make that to be about 23,000,000 dead Americans.

Or, perhaps you've never heard of Ward Churchill, professor of the University of Colorado who wrote off the 3,000 dead Americans and others at the World Trade Center on 9/11 as "Little Eichmanns".

Or, perhaps you weren't into reading much and missed the comments by American leftists at democrat underground and other playgrounds of the far radical left who gave us the news that America deserved the 9/11 attacks.

Strangely, these are all leftists.

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posted September 23, 2009 01:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
i'm sorry, this has what to do with what?
i have heard that 9/11 could have been prevented by an at BEST incompetent administration. i have heard that 9/11 was actually planned by that administration or at least "friends" of theirs. what does that prove? that people talk, pure and simple.

how does this reflect on the execution of this sniper?

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posted September 23, 2009 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
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i'm sorry, this has what to do with what?...katatonic

It has to do with this comment katatonic...your comment by the way.

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i have not heard of one person, left, right or martian rejoicing over the death of innocent citizens anywhere. with the possible exception of the perps involved...katatonic

As for the "at BEST incompetent" Bush administration katatonic; let me remind you the 9/11 attacks were planned back in 1998..on Kommander Korruption's watch...while Kommander Korruption was entertaining Monica with Cuban cigars instead of taking care of business...business like taking bin Laden off Sudan's hands when they offered 3 times to not only turn bin Laden over to the US but also his top commanders, their computers, note and notebooks. Kommander Korruption declined.

There was also the matter of the wall between foreign intelligence agencies..like the CIA and domestic law enforcement...like the FBI erected by a Kommander Korruption appointee named Jamie Goerlick..who was told in no uncertain terms that wall forbidding sharing of information between CIA and FBI would lead to American deaths. This prediction was made by a US Attorney prior to 9/11 and proved to be correct.

Bush tore down that wall of separation between intelligence agencies and the FBI information sharing...and protected the US and US citizens with no further attacks.

O'Bomber is an appeaser of terrorists who has been singing from the terrorist hymnal for years and has now taken any sting out of being captured by US forces by ordering terrorist to be read their CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS on the battlefield.

YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO REMAIN SILENT. ANYTHING YOU SAY CAN AND WILL BE USED AGAINST YOU IN A COURT OF LAW. YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO AN ATTORNEY BEFORE QUESTIONING. DO YOU UNDERSTAND YOUR RIGHTS AS I HAVE EXPLAINED THEM TO YOU?

Now Mr terrorist, would you like to waive your Constitutional Rights and give me information about your terrorist cell members and future targets?

Terrorist:
You must be insane!

No Mr terrorist, it's the Kommander in Chief, O'Bomber who is insane.

Btw, I have heard there are still some idiots attempting to spread the 9/11 conspiracy theory. Go figure.

On the one hand these nuts would have us believe Bush is so clever he managed to plant explosives all over the WTC towers and wire them with detonators...while the towers were in full operation with security forces walking around not to mention the tens of thousands of tenants and employees BUT...

On the other hand, Bush is so stupid he didn't know how to plant some WMD in Iraq to be found by teams scouring the county side looking for them.

Saddam's WMD

Such nuttiness is sometimes amusing.

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posted September 23, 2009 09:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
oh i don't think anyone has attributed the actual dirtywork to mr bush. or thinks he was clever enough to have done it without getting caught. in fact i don't think a lot of people give him credit for planning it either. ALLOWING it, that's another story altogether.

but seriously, execution is execution, and bloodthirsty/sadistic is also what it is. the need to gloat and pile suffering on top of death erodes the character.

the death penalty of course is a far cheaper way of disposing of criminals than keeping them alive. the nazis figured that one out after awhile...

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