posted January 14, 2011 04:51 PM            

Holy Mother Goddess, let us inspire each other with words of love and peace, to bring us together instead of hate and violence which drives us apart. May it be so. Blessed Be.

PS ~ We need more cookie time:

Cookie Dough Truffles
Ingredients:
8 tbsp. unsalted butter, at room temperature
¾ cup light brown sugar, packed
2¼ cup all-purpose flour
1 (14 oz.) can sweetened condensed milk
1 tsp. vanilla extract
½ cup mini semisweet chocolate chips
1½ lb. semisweet (or bittersweet) chocolate, coarsely chopped
Mini chocolate chips (for garnish)

Directions:
Combine the butter and sugar in a mixing bowl and cream on medium-high speed until light and fluffy, about 2 minutes. Beat in the flour, sweetened condensed milk and vanilla until incorporated and smooth. Stir in the chocolate chips. Cover with plastic wrap and refrigerate until the mixture has firmed up enough to form balls.

Shape the chilled cookie dough mixture into 1-1½ inch balls. Place on a baking sheet lined with wax paper. Cover loosely, transfer the pan to the freezer and chill for 1-2 hours.

posted January 17, 2011 08:23 AM            

Leftists never seem to be able to get that right.

Fully automatic rifles...and pistols....the real military type assault weapons have been banned since about 1934 and THEY STILL ARE.

Another leftist clown in the endless parade of leftist nutter haters.

TUCSON, Ariz. — A Tucson mass shooting victim was taken into custody Saturday after yelling "you're dead" at a Tea Party spokesman during the taping of an ABC-TV town hall event hosted by Christianne Amanpour.

The Pima County Sheriff's Office said J. Eric Fuller, 63, was involuntarily committed to an undisclosed medical facility, NBC News reported. The Associated Press said he was undergoing a psychiatric evaluation.

He faces charges of threats and intimidation and disorderly conduct, according to Tucson TV station KGUN.

The gathering for "After the Tragedy: An American Conversation Continued," to be shown as a special edition of "This Week" Sunday, included witnesses, first responders, victims and heroes of the Jan. 8 mass shooting that killed six and wounded 13 others, including Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, D-Ariz.

Local officials and others also packed St. Odilia's Catholic Church in northwest Tucson, where the show was taped.

KGUN reported that Fuller took exception to comments by Republican state Rep. Terri Proud and Tucson Tea Party spokesman Trent Humphries.

Fuller was in the front row and apparently became upset when Humphries suggested that any conversations about gun control should be delayed until all the dead were buried, KGUN reported.

Fuller took a picture of Humphries and shouted, “You’re dead.”.....

posted January 17, 2011 01:28 PM            

Americans are resisting leftist attempts to disarm them. It doesn't help leftist propaganda that study after study after study show that in states, counties and cities where concealed carry permits are issued, violent criminal acts decrease dramatically. The last thing violent criminals want is for their intended victim to blow their freaking head off.

Too bad there weren't some armed citizens in the crowd at Gifford's meeting. Loughner may have gotten off a couple of rounds from his Glock but he would have been dead long before he managed to kill 6 and wound 14 more. That would have been a far better result than what happened.

The same can be said for the Virginia Tech shootings and the several student attacks at high schools.

As for your "spouting their 2nd amendment right to bear arms" comment.

There's no "spouting" involved. The 2nd Amendment exists and was recently upheld by the US Supreme Court...twice.

We're going to keep the 2nd Amendment and we're going to keep our guns too.

posted January 18, 2011 08:01 AM            

Perhaps you would or do...given your admiration for murdering terrorists you call "ballsy"...for killing unarmed civilians they don't even know.

Tell me acoustic, are the terrorists ballsy warriors because they kill unarmed civilians OR...are they ballsy warriors because they kill people they don't know?

Leftists are so predictable. "Statement" you have heard.

Now, it's not Loughner who killed those people...it was his Glock 19. You know, "people don't kill people"..."guns kill people". Wow

AND, from other members of the brain dead left...it was the rhetoric of the right which killed those people. They have blood on their hands.

Perhaps we should marry the leftist lunatic rhetoric and come up with:

The firebrand rhetoric of the right inflamed the Glock 19 until it flipped out and killed 6 wounding 14.

posted January 18, 2011 10:05 AM            

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Originally posted by jwhop:

It doesn't help leftist propaganda that study after study after study show that in states, counties and cities where concealed carry permits are issued, violent criminal acts decrease dramatically. The last thing violent criminals want is for their intended victim to blow their freaking head off.

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i'm questioning the validity of this study after study comment... another study done, globally in that case, drew the conclusion that in countries where police officers do not carry guns but batons - as in Japan and England - they have a marked drop in violent crimes compared to countries where there is no "gun control"...
and you're right jwhop, if someone else had a gun they could've popped Loughner off... but what if that person missed and hit another by-stander? what if Loughner couldn't have gotten hold of a gun in the first place?
and you're right, i'm not American and don't generally choose to vacation there... but i'm also intelligent enough to realize that a 200 year old document may be due some revisions in the 21st century

posted January 18, 2011 10:21 AM            

He stated in interview that he drew his weapon-- pointed it at the guy on top of Jared Loughner- onlookers said no, no, not that guy.

posted January 18, 2011 10:39 AM            

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The Federal Assault Weapons Ban (AWB) (or Public Safety and Recreational Firearms Use Protection Act) was a subtitle of the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994, a federal law in the United States that included a prohibition on the manufacture for civilian use of certain semi-automatic firearms, so called "assault weapons." There was no legal definition of "assault weapons" in the U.S. prior to the law's enactment. The 10-year ban was passed by Congress on Sept. 13, 1994, and was signed into law by President Bill Clinton the same day. The ban only applied to weapons manufactured after the date of the ban's enactment.

The Federal Assault Weapons Ban expired Sept. 13, 2004, as part of the law's sunset provision. There have been multiple attempts to renew the ban [1] with no bill reaching the floor for a vote.

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posted January 18, 2011 01:15 PM            

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i'm questioning the validity of this study after study comment...

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posted January 18, 2011 06:08 PM            

Author: Tracey Taylor
September 22, 2008

Statistics released last week by the FBI show that the estimated volume of violent crime was down 0.7 percent, and the estimated volume of property crime decreased 1.4 percent in 2007 when compared with 2006 figures.

The estimated rate of violent crime was 466.9 occurrences per 100,000 inhabitants (a 1.4 percent decrease from the 2006 rate), and the estimated rate of property crime was 3,263.5 per 100,000 inhabitants (a 2.1 percent decline).

Violent crime has fallen as the number of guns has increased 4.5 million a year. There are more gun owners, owning more guns than ever before.

The FBI presented these data today in the 2007 edition of Crime in the United States, a statistical compilation of offense and arrest data as reported by law enforcement agencies throughout the nation. The FBI collected these data via the Uniform Crime Reporting (UCR) program.

The UCR program gathers offense data for violent and property crimes. Violent crimes are the offenses of murder and nonnegligent manslaughter, forcible rape, robbery, and aggravated assault; property crimes are the offenses of burglary, larceny-theft, motor vehicle theft, and arson. The program also collects arrest data for violent and property crimes as well as 21 additional offenses that include all other offenses except traffic violations.

Other highlights:

In 2007, the major U.S. cities with the highest murder rates were cities with severe gun control. The top three? Detroit (where Michigan law requires a permit to purchase a handgun), Baltimore (where Maryland law restricts private handgun sales and requires a seven-day waiting period on handgun sales by dealers), and the District of Columbia (with its handgun ban and its firearm registration law). Detroit, Baltimore, Philadelphia, and D.C. had the highest robbery rates.

In 2007, more than 17,700 city, county, college and university, state, tribal, and federal agencies voluntarily participated in the UCR program. These agencies represented 94.6 percent of the nation’s population. A summary of the crime statistics presented in Crime in the United States, 2007 follows:

•There were an estimated 1,408,337 violent crimes reported nationwide in 2007.

***•In 2007, as in years past, Right-to-Carry states had lower violent crime rates, on average, compared to the rest of the country with total violent crime lower by 24 percent, murder by 28 percent, robbery by 50 percent, and aggravated assault by 11 percent.

•All four of the violent crime offenses declined in 2007 when compared with figures from 2006.

•The arrest rate for violent crime was 200.2 arrests per 100,000 inhabitants; for property crime, the rate was 544.1 arrests per 100,000 inhabitants.

•The rate of arrests for murder and nonnegligent manslaughter in 2007 was 4.5 per 100,000 in population. The rate of arrests for forcible rape was 7.7; for robbery, 42.9; and for aggravated assault, 145.1.

•Further, in 2007, 32 percent of murders were committed without firearms of any sort--knives accounted for 12 percent, hands and feet six percent, and blunt objects four percent. Rifles and shotguns (semi-automatic and otherwise) accounted for three percent each, and typically "assault weapons" have accounted for about one percent.

posted January 18, 2011 07:41 PM            

STAND BACK!!!! I AM ARMED, AND I AM NOT AFRAID TO USE THIS THING!!!

As you can see I have a large supply of ammo...

posted January 18, 2011 11:03 PM            

He also had an extensive record with the Pima County College Campus police and Tucson Police department:
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2011/01/12/20110112giffords-shooting-suspect-loughner-sheriff-incidents-brk12-ON.html

He had NOTHING to do with the right wing or the tea party. The rhetoric that has been touted as contributing to the shooting (i.e. conservatives) had ZERO to do with his hatred towards Giffords. He became fixated on her back in 2007
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703667904576071191163461466.html

The sad thing is that in our newspapers out here: Arizona Republic and SV Herald have people submitting opinions blaming Palin and others for contributing to the shooting AND asking for our rights to free speech be limited to "those that can handle it as most people should not be allowed to speak freely". Seriously, someone posted that.

posted January 19, 2011 12:17 AM            

I have mixed feelings about freedom of speech and press

People can take freedom of speech too far like calling people names, slurs

like say a white racist calling a black person the n'word

or a homophobe calling a gay person "the f'word

or women being called the b'word

people printing things in the paper that are not true

hate groups are allowed to exist here in USA because of freedom of speech and the press. I believe that no hate groups should be allowed. It doesn't matter if they are against blacks,whites,jews, etc.
In 2000, there were 602 hate groups. http://www.unitedstatesaction.com/list-us-hate-groups.htm

I believe that freedom of speech and press gets totally abused by a lot of people to the point that it can lead to hurting others.

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No..I am not a Virgo.

posted January 19, 2011 01:30 PM            

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Originally posted by jwhop:
Sorry, this is another argument you've lost!

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not sure if this was tossed at AG or me - i don't recall ever "losing" an argument with you so i'll assume the former...

i went and did some research on the website you provided and you're right, overall crime rates had gone done in 2008 ( btw, the percentages you quoted were off - if it doesn't add to 100 something is wrong ) and the FBI is predicting that even for 2010 the rates will be lower... however, some things posted on their site that you chose to overlook:

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Aggravated assaults accounted for the highest number of violent crimes reported to law enforcement at 61.2 percent. Robbery comprised 31.0 percent of violent crimes, forcible rape accounted for 6.7 percent, and murder accounted for 1.2 percent of estimated violent crimes in 2009.

Information collected regarding type of weapon showed that firearms were used in
67.1 percent of the Nation’s murders, 42.6 percent of robberies, and 20.9 percent of aggravated assaults. (Weapons data are not collected for forcible rape.)

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they also don't state anywhere that i could find that gun control, or lack thereof, was a contributable factor :

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Historically, the causes and origins of crime have been the subjects of investigation by many disciplines. Some factors that are known to affect the volume and type of crime occurring from place to place are:
Population density and degree of urbanization.
Variations in composition of the population, particularly youth concentration.
Stability of the population with respect to residents’ mobility, commuting patterns, and transient factors.
Modes of transportation and highway system.
Economic conditions, including median income, poverty level, and job availability.
Cultural factors and educational, recreational, and religious characteristics.
Family conditions with respect to divorce and family cohesiveness.
Climate.
Effective strength of law enforcement agencies.
Administrative and investigative emphases of law enforcement.
Policies of other components of the criminal justice system (i.e., prosecutorial, judicial, correctional, and probational).
Citizens’ attitudes toward crime.
Crime reporting practices of the citizenry.

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Each year when Crime in the United States is published, many entities—news media, tourism agencies, and other groups with an interest in crime in our Nation—use reported figures to compile rankings of cities and counties. These rankings, however, are merely a quick choice made by the data user; they provide no insight into the many variables that mold the crime in a particular town, city, county, state, region, or other jurisdiction. Consequently, these rankings lead to simplistic and/or incomplete analyses that often create misleading perceptions adversely affecting cities and counties, along with their residents.

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i will admit my bad for following the media reports about the crime rates... but you didn't do all your homework either...

posted January 19, 2011 01:51 PM            

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i'm questioning the validity of this study after study comment...emitres

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I proved all I needed to prove emitres...to you and to acoustic. You will notice the FBI statistical report and the language..."as in years past"...study after study after study....where "Right to Carry Laws exist, there's a dramatic reduction in violent crime rates. Unless of course, you don't believe a difference of 28% in murder rates, a 50% difference in robbery rates and 11% in aggravated assault rates constitute a "dramatic reduction" in violent crime rates.

***•In 2007, as in years past, Right-to-Carry states had lower violent crime rates, on average, compared to the rest of the country with total violent crime lower by 24 percent, murder by 28 percent, robbery by 50 percent, and aggravated assault by 11 percent.

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they also don't state anywhere that i could find that gun control, or lack thereof, was a contributable factor...emitres

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Wrong again emitres. From the very same FBI report.

"In 2007, the major U.S. cities with the highest murder rates were cities with severe gun control"

Now admit it emitres. You've been sold a bill of goods by the anti-gun crowd and you didn't do your homework before jumping in with both feet.

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In D.C. it's a short drive over the state line to Virginia to get a gun....acoustic

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posted January 19, 2011 05:27 PM            

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I proved all I needed to prove emitres...to you and to acoustic. You will notice the FBI statistical report

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You didn't link to the FBI statistical report mentioned in that pro-gun article. Did that little detail escape you?

posted January 19, 2011 05:46 PM            

Or, is this another case where you won't believe it unless someone whispers in your ear..."it's true acoustic"?

Non-sequitur is the proper word to apply to illogical statements which have nothing to do with the issue under discussion....which is, the impact legal gun carry laws have on reducing violent crime rates.

It would seem obvious to reasonable people that a resident of Washington DC who goes over into Virginia to purchase a gun to take back into DC which has or had one of the most stringent anti-gun laws on their books...would not be doing so...... "legally".

posted January 20, 2011 05:27 PM            

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It would seem obvious to reasonable people that a resident of Washington DC who goes over into Virginia to purchase a gun to take back into DC which has or had one of the most stringent anti-gun laws on their books...would not be doing so...... "legally".

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Irrelevant. You were trying to make the point that D.C.'s strict gun laws didn't stem gun violence. That's because just outside D.C. is a place where it's super easy to get guns.

That's the problem with this debate in general: there are too many factors involved.

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my point was simply that the number of crimes commited with firearms is still well over 50% as of 2009...

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Indeed.

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posted January 21, 2011 12:26 AM            

If a person doesn't pass psychological evaluation, he/she doesn't get a fire arm possession permit which bars him/her from buy firearms

There would be penalties that include fine and/or prison fine for people that violate the requirements. This would include both the buyer and seller

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No..I am not a Virgo.

posted January 21, 2011 10:08 AM            

Hahaha
You lost the argument...period.

You failed to successfully attack the source of the statistical information...which is the FBI.

The premise is that states and localities with legal right to carry firearms laws have dramatically lower violent crime rates...and that...study, after study, after study support that premise. Proved.

acoustic attempted to show that DC residents go over a state line and purchase guns to take back to DC..in violation of DC gun laws. So what? Non-sequitur!

emitres cited a different report but from what you posted emitres, that report does not challenge the findings of the report I cited.

The evidence shows that "Right to carry" laws have a beneficial effect in our society...by reducing violent crime rates.

AND

I haven't even gotten into the fact that those with legal guns on their persons have used those guns to protect themselves or others against criminals in incidences numbering over 1,000,000 times a year.

So, why are we still hearing the shrill, screeching, shrieking rhetoric..."people don't kill people....guns kill people".