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iQ
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posted November 18, 2012 10:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think Dane Rudhyar already proved 13 Sagittarius as the correct US Ascendant.

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posted November 18, 2012 02:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
IQ, I see pisces sun for India. What do u think, you who live there?

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Linda Jones
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posted November 18, 2012 03:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Linda Jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@ Pire,

According to India's Independence Day, Sun is in Leo (I think). Not sure when the constitution was drafted, though.

Did you mean Pisces more in a cultural/religious sense?

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posted November 18, 2012 05:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes Linda, it is the religious aspect that made think of pisces. Plus the apparent chaos in the street for ex that comes to mind. I don't see the leo but I never went there. And that could be part of the mix. My "thing" is to identify a cultural vibe that I define in sign. Official charts for countries exist but I mean a more cultural vibe. It is really a subjective point of view. My pisces mercury playing here...
I've just finished watching invictus and I definitely identified the saggi energy. Such a brillant story told by a brillant filmaker

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posted November 19, 2012 08:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by iQ:
I think Dane Rudhyar already proved 13 Sagittarius as the correct US Ascendant.

Did he know that Declaration of Independence was signed July 2, not the 4th?

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NativelyJoan
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posted November 20, 2012 03:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NativelyJoan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by pire:
I've just finished watching invictus and I definitely identified the saggi energy. Such a brillant story told by a brillant filmaker

Just saw this Pire, it is a great film. I love Morgan Freeman and Matt Damon does an incredible performance. South Africa has a couple different natal charts because of their tumultuous history, however that Sag energy is very potent within the country culturally. It makes so much sense there.

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posted November 20, 2012 03:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NativelyJoan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not only are we bearing witness to a New America but young voters (the millennial generation) are continuing to display the power they wield in this nation.


"In America, Young Voters Are the New Normal" (November 19, 2012, Rob Baker and Alexandra Acker-Lyons)

"It feels awfully good to make the pundits eat their words.

We know, because we were told that we, the millennial generation of voters ages 32 and younger, weren’t going to have an impact on this election, that we weren’t excited—that we didn’t matter. Boy, were they wrong.

Statistics prove just how wrong they were: In Florida, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Virginia (80 electoral votes total), if President Obama’s majority in the youth vote were instead a 50/50 split, each state would go from blue to red. And Gov. Romney would be the new president.

With three consecutive presidential election cycles of high young voter turnout, the picture comes into focus: Young voter participation is “the new normal.”

Dozens of youth groups—local, statewide and national, student and nonstudent—worked to make sure that every young American who wanted to vote was registered, made it to the polls and had that person’s vote counted. This was a peer-to-peer movement that built its own steam and unstoppable momentum leading to Election Day.

The efforts in Wisconsin were complicated by the voter ID law, which was struck down by courts as an unconstitutional infringement on the right to vote. Further complicating matters were the self-appointed poll watchers who tried to intimidate and harass voters, primarily in minority communities. But the education, outreach and support efforts undertaken before the election and on Election Day ensured that all who were eligible to vote had the opportunities to cast ballots and be assured their votes would count.

We must ensure that young people get engaged and remain motivated, and not simply because they will bear the consequences of decisions made in Washington for the longest time. Research shows that when young people are engaged and treated seriously in the political process, they stay engaged. We are only enacting a lesson Madison Avenue learned decades ago: If you “brand” people young, they stay branded—if they’re buying Brand X toothpaste at 25, they’ll be buying it at 65.

We’re branding voters.

We offer our congratulations to President Obama on his victory, and to Gov. Romney on his gracious acceptance of defeat. Let us heed the words of both, that this is not a time for partisan acrimony, but for unity and community, helping our nation recover from economic and natural disasters, and moving our country forward.

We would add this: Young Americans are a force that yearns to participate and contribute. Make us part of the decision-making process, and treat us as equal partners in our society.

Do not mistake the media creation of the disinterested, uninformed slacker kids for the movement we have helped create. The people saying for weeks that we had an “enthusiasm gap” are today explaining how the parties have to face the new American electorate and its crucial components: women, minorities and youth.

They are just learning what we have known for a long, long time: We are the new normal." http://gazettextra.com/news/2012/nov/19/america-young-voters-are-new-normal/

Nice article!

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iQ
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posted November 20, 2012 07:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Pire and Linda: India's Chart changed to Aquarius after the Republic Day was declared on 26th January 1950. But you have a point about Pisces. Perhaps our Rising Sign is Pisces with Sun in 11th House of Gains. It makes sense because all Official Declarations are made at 9:30 AM. This chart give Saturn in 7th, and we have very difficult relationships with our neighbors, and deceptive neighbors too [Neptune is also in 7th]

Vedic Astrologers had no clue about Compound NUmber NUmerology and retrogrades, thus they chose a date ruled by Saturn [26 = 8] with Retrograde Mercury [Too many Indians cheat in business] and Retrograde Venus [India is the worst in treatment of Women].

Time the Indian Government hired Linda Land to create a new Chart

@Faith: I do not think Rudhyar used July 2nd.

@NJ: Very good article, thanks for posting

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PixieJane
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posted November 23, 2012 04:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Btw, while going through some old links I came across this, where the Obama administration Appealed The Indefinite Detention Ruling:
http://www.businessinsider.com/unbelievable-obama-administration-has-already-appealed-ndaa-ruling-2012-9

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