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Randall
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posted May 05, 2013 09:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Wayne Lapierre Boston

NRA Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre sparked controversy on Saturday when he asked, "How many Bostonians wished they had a gun two weeks ago?"

The comments came in the middle of his speech at the annual NRA members meeting in Houston, Texas.

LaPierre explained that during the Boston lockdown that took place while police were chasing the bombing suspects, "frightened citizens [were] sheltered in place with no means to defend themselves."

He said:

"Imagine living in a large metropolitan area where lawful firearms ownership is heavily regulated and discouraged. Imagine waking up to a phone call from the police, warning that a terrorist event is occurring outside and ordering you to stay inside your home."

"DISGUSTING. Shameful," one Twitter user remarked. "SERIOUSLY, BRO?" asked another.

As NBC's Kasie Hunt points out, this is the first time that the NRA has linked the Boston Marathon bombings to guns.

LaPierre then accused gun control advocates of exploiting tragedies like the Sandy Hook school shooting.

“They use tragedy to try to blame us, to shame us into compromising our freedom for their political agenda," he said. "No matter what it takes, we will never give up or compromise our constitutional freedom, not one single inch!”

Also speaking at the NRA convention were Second Vice President Allan Cors and chief lobbyist Chris Cox, who offered simliar rhetoric.

"Our gun rights are never safe," said Cors.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/04/wayne-lapierre-boston-marathon-bombings-guns-nra_n_3215449.html

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posted May 05, 2013 10:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for doommlord     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ehm no one can truly say if guns would have brought a better outcome...

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posted May 05, 2013 10:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, but people with guns would have felt safer during the manhunt. He could have tried to break into any one of those homes, and then there would have been a hostage situation.

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posted May 05, 2013 10:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for doommlord     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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No, but people with guns would have felt safer during the manhunt. He could have tried to break into any one of those homes, and then there would have been a hostage situation.

On the other hand some people thinking themselves smarter from the police would have searched for any arab-looking guy from the marathon and shot him to death not caring if he was the bomber or not......

Everything can happen so probability does not play for either side here.

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posted May 05, 2013 12:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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No, but people with guns would have felt safer during the manhunt. He could have tried to break into any one of those homes, and then there would have been a hostage situation.


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posted May 05, 2013 02:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm sure a lot of people in Boston had a gun, and that sort of vilgilante behavior didn't happen. They were told to stay in their homes. Had the suspect broken in, it would have been preferred to have a gun for protection.

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posted May 05, 2013 02:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for doommlord     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I'm sure a lot of people in Boston had a gun, and that sort of vilgilante behavior didn't happen. They were told to stay in their homes. Had the suspect broken in, it would have been preferred to have a gun for protection.

Then again we are talking about what happened and if guns were in the hands of more people there might haveben a chance for something like that to happen.

I am not denying that guns would have been usefull and i definetly am NOT taking sides on this whole gun matter im just stating situations that should be noticed as potential threats to be compared with the safety benefeits.

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Well, if there were a similar situation here...terrorist attack, lockdown, and those terrorists at large...I think most people would certainly feel safer having a gun in their home.

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posted May 05, 2013 02:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for doommlord     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Well, if there were a similar situation here...terrorist attack, lockdown, and those terrorists at large...I think most people would certainly feel safer having a gun in their home.

I know that but you just cant let any retard hold a gun in his hands or terrorists will become a much smaller problem compared to what will happen...

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posted May 05, 2013 03:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To conquer a nation, first disarm it's citizens.


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Well, if there were a similar situation here...terrorist attack, lockdown, and those terrorists at large...I think most people would certainly feel safer having a gun in their home.

But it would only help if it were readily available...as in you'd have to carry it around all the time or have it very close by in order for it to be of any benefit. Just having it in the home doesn't do much in and of itself.

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To conquer a nation, first disarm it's citizens. -Adolf Hitler

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-april-25-2013/australia---gun-control-s-aftermath?xrs=share_copy

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But it would only help if it were readily available...as in you'd have to carry it around all the time or have it very close by in order for it to be of any benefit. Just having it in the home doesn't do much in and of itself.


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I don't understand the big smile smiley. You're not saying anything remotely offensive to me. Nor do you show any courage greater than anyone else here including myself. You'd go to pieces in the face of a real threat. I'd be as cool as a cucumber. You know that.

I would carry a gun if I had one, and if conditions indicated a threat. If I were to buy a gun I'd be more tempted by a non-lethal gun where the person I shot would be alive to deal with the consequences of their actions.

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You missed the mark, AG. In the home, a gun would have been very effective, had this terrorist attempted a home invasion. The article doesn't say it would have stopped the bombing.

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I don't understand the big smile smiley. You're not saying anything remotely offensive to me. Nor do you show any courage greater than anyone else here including myself. You'd go to pieces in the face of a real threat. I'd be as cool as a cucumber. You know that.

I would carry a gun if I had one, and if conditions indicated a threat. If I were to buy a gun I'd be more tempted by a non-lethal gun where the person I shot would be alive to deal with the consequences of their actions.


The smiley was just trying to be nice and offer you a gesture of friendship

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posted May 06, 2013 05:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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The article doesn't say it would have stopped the bombing.

I wasn't talking about that. I was talking about your scenario where a known violent offender is trying to find shelter in an unfamiliar home.

The problem with guns for defense is that if they're not readily available in any scenario requiring them it becomes a race between the bad guy and the person with guns in the home.

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I'd take my chances with a weapon in my home than without one. In some states, you can only use deadly force if you feel your life is threatened; however, no jury will convict you if it's your home. We have a law in Georgia that if you forcibly enter my home, I can assume you mean harm and kill you before asking questions. That law was tested recently in my city when just that happened.

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I wasn't talking about that. I was talking about your scenario where a known violent offender is trying to find shelter in an unfamiliar home.

The problem with guns for defense is that if they're not readily available in any scenario requiring them it becomes a race between the bad guy and the person with guns in the home.


You Liberals will go on all sorts of flipping rabbit trails rather than see the obvious

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That is the obvious, Ami. It shouldn't take a liberal to point it out.

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That is the obvious, Ami. It shouldn't take a liberal to point it out.

No, the obvious is don't call running horses zebras.

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You Liberals will go on all sorts of flipping rabbit trails rather than see the obvious


maybe you should spend more time trying to understand people instead of just putting them into boxes and inventing ill-minded stereotypes about them...

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Better a race than no race at all (no weapon with which to defend oneself). Or perhaps you would have it best that a family be at the complete mercy of a home invader?

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I wasn't talking about that. I was talking about your scenario where a known violent offender is trying to find shelter in an unfamiliar home.

The problem with guns for defense is that if they're not readily available in any scenario requiring them it becomes a race between the bad guy and the person with guns in the home.


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Better a race than no race at all (no weapon with which to defend oneself). Or perhaps you would have it best that a family be at the complete mercy of a home invader?

I am going to say this as a female. WHERE have real men gone

A guy who is masculine is such a rarity, these days.

To me, a guy who would make wimpy statements about guns has lost that virile masculinity that attracts woman, in my humble opinion


PS I hate being near guns, I just like a man who embodies being male.


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[b]Better a race than no race at all (no weapon with which to defend oneself). Or perhaps you would have it best that a family be at the complete mercy of a home invader?

I am going to say this as a female. WHERE have real men gone
A guy who is masculine is such a rarity, these days.

To me, a guy who would make wimpy/woosey statements about guns is somewhere in between male and female

[/B]


maybe instead of behaving like a disgusting person would you try and take and example from randall and do your best to keep to the topic?

oh and it seems like i caught your original version too.

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