posted September 20, 2013 06:39 PM            

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Many many many companies have been exempted from this "tax" by simply requesting it. My guess is that you have to join the Obama A** Kissing Club to be exempt. Here's a list:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2900475/posts

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You have to give big money to Obama.

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posted September 20, 2013 06:43 PM            

They are messing up the economy so people will be dependent.

They are messing up small business with Obamacare, so the middle class will lose what it has.

Only the very rich will retain what they have.

Then, they are gonna come for guns. Then, maybe Libs will wake up but it will be too late like it was in Nazi Germany.

The stupidity of people repeats, just as history does.

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posted September 20, 2013 06:51 PM            

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posted September 20, 2013 07:19 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
The Hutterites are a small sect that are also exempt. But there is a small church I read about (an interview with the founder) who was recently exempted, as well. I'm trying to find it.

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These groups are very small.

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posted September 20, 2013 07:36 PM            

As i understand it some religious sects who do not pay into SS are exempt, but "muslims" as a whole most certainly are not, and in fact those Amish who do pay into SS are NOT exempt.

Lotta unions on that list does anyone ever stop to think that they are already supplying qualifying plans to their employees? Congress also already are covered by their employer's "exchange".

And if so many unions ARE exempt, what are the unions in the title of this thread beefing about?

I appreciate that you have obviously looked into tjis, Randall. Will return the favour

Meanwhile, I have to say I don't buy into Ami's phrophesy of doom nor do I think Obama has time to deal personally with each and every submission regarding this plan.

I suspect that many of these "waivers" are temporary, like the other implementations that have been postponed.

Meanwhile Cali, NY and other states that are gearing up to implementation are seeing insurance rates in general coming down to stay competitive.

I'm not saying you're wrong but the devil is in the details for this virgo merc.

posted September 20, 2013 07:39 PM            

They are. Check your sources and make sure you are looking at accurate sources, not junk mail

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posted September 20, 2013 08:12 PM            

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Originally posted by Catalina:
I don't receive those junkmails you are so fond of posting, Ami, and you can't show me a source for your statement, can you? When I am at a computer again I will copy/paste the section of the act that is falsely cited as "proof" that muslims are exempt. It's nothing of the sort.

So go for it, girl, dazzle me with a real source thst says what you claim!

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posted September 20, 2013 08:21 PM            

I found something but the picture was not good so I will look tomorrow when I will look forward to more of uplifting talks with Cata

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posted September 20, 2013 09:02 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
The exemptions are permanent. If you join the Mennonite church (they are as modern as any other church), you are exempt. The key is that the church be recognized before 1950. The list is before Obama betrayed labor unions. But since there are no civil or criminal penalties for noncompliance, no one has to pay the fine. The IRS says they will send out scary letters to persuade people to comply. The IRS employees hate Obamacare, because they are losing their benefits and are being forced to use the exchanges.

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posted September 21, 2013 01:20 PM            

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@ Ami

Asking for evidence is not fighting...although thise with "nothing" may create a diversion by attacking the asker's character, it just underlines their empty "hand".

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True but with you, past experience shows otherwise. Ever hear the saying those who don't learn the lessons of history are condemned to repeat it

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posted September 21, 2013 01:25 PM            

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posted September 21, 2013 01:51 PM            

Basically, the only thing the IRS can do to make you pay the fine is to take it out of your withholding or withhold it from your tax refund (if you’re due one). So if you don’t participate in the withholding process, the IRS has no way to collect the fine. Or you can make your withholding less, so it will equal zero.

posted September 21, 2013 03:00 PM            

Many of those who are against it are all too willing to admit they don't know what's in it. As those who use it report the benefits, it will slowly become more widespread.

And "defunding" it is a farce, since most of the funds have already been distributed and spent by states etc in putting everything together.

posted September 21, 2013 03:04 PM            

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Ami, unless you work a job and get a tax refund, you don't have to worry about Obamacare. The IRS can't do anything. Hopefully, word will spread, so people can't opt out and topple this pyramid scheme. If you get a letter from the IRS, you can ignore it. It has no more legal weight than if a Walmart cashier wrote you a letter. Fear and intimidation doesn't work when the weapons are hot air.

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But the IRS ruins people, Randall. I don't understand what you mean.

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posted September 21, 2013 03:27 PM            

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Originally posted by Catalina:
In other words you got nothing. Fine.

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