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Ami Anne
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posted September 21, 2013 03:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Muslim exemption is worded in a way that buying health insurance goes against their laws so they don't have to do it.

It is worded like that.

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posted September 21, 2013 03:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.snopes.com/politics/medical/exemptions.asp

I tried to copy the text for you but it wouldn't process for some reason, so I guess you will have to do the clicking yourself.

There is explanation and actual copy of the applicable part of the Act. It explains why some Amish and other religious conscience exemptions are allowed, and also why no one religion is exempt just for being part of that religion

Did you find a source yet Ami? Forgive my not taking your word for it, I would love to see that "wording" myself. And where it came from. Pretend you are writing a paper for grad school, there must have been some research involved, no?

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posted September 21, 2013 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I have too many charts to do atm so I will have to let you win this round. Enjoy eating your humble pie

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posted September 21, 2013 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Quel surprise

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posted September 21, 2013 04:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Catalina:
Quel surprise

Enjoy your moment in the sun. When this kid comes back, things will be different

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posted September 21, 2013 04:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As far as the individual mandate is concerned, we are all exempt, because the IRS can't enforce the penalty. If a law says we must do something, but there is no applicable penalty for noncompliance, then that law isn't really a law at all. Instead of calling it an individual mandate, it should be called an individual suggestion.

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posted September 21, 2013 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
As far as the individual mandate is concerned, we are all exempt, because the IRS can't enforce the penalty. If a law says we must do something, but there is no applicable penalty for noncompliance, then that law isn't really a law at all. Instead of calling it an individual mandate, it should be called an individual suggestion.


It doesn't seem right, Randall. Did you know that Obama wrote an executive order for indefinite detention.

I don't think you even need a trial. Dictatorships have this.


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posted September 21, 2013 04:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Got source, Ami ga?

And if there is no penalty why are congress collecting their salaries for continual votes to (not)repeal it?

Could it be that 4 years later they still don't know what is in the thing?

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posted September 21, 2013 05:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Um, because it is going to destroy this country and spend us into the stone age.

Mennonites are religiously opposed to public health insurance. As the government cannnot challenge our religious beliefs, and we can convert at anytime, the Mennonite church will see many new members.

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posted September 21, 2013 05:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Um, because it is going to destroy this country and spend us into the stone age.

Mennonites are religiously opposed to public health insurance. As the government cannnot challenge our religious beliefs, and we can convert at anytime, the Mennonite church will see many new members.



Totally about the Mennonites, Randall. I am seriously gonna join because they are a Bible believing church so I am a Mennonite, now

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Could it be that 4 years later they still don't know what is in the thing?

They don't know what is in it but they KNOW they want no part of it, themselves

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posted September 21, 2013 05:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's messed up that our religious objections only count if they are organized prior to 1950. That's why I say for everyone to just refuse to buy insurance and refuse to pat any fine. Stop loaning your money to the government interest-free and begging for a refund. File a new W-4 with your employer and lower your withholding or opt out completely by filing exempt on the W-4.

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posted September 21, 2013 05:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
It's messed up that our religious objections only count if they are organized prior to 1950. That's why I say for everyone to just refuse to buy insurance and refuse to pat any fine. Stop loaning your money to the government interest-free and begging for a refund. File a new W-4 with your employer and lower your withholding or opt out completely by filing exempt on the W-4.

The IRS can come after you and you can be put in jail. Obamacare will be the law. The indefinite detention is an issue, too, Randall.

Have you noticed the police being more brutal in small things?

I am a member of many conservative FB groups such as Breitbart.

Really bad things are happening police wise to normal, law abiding citizens.


That is part of Obama's plan too. He wants a national police force like they have in dictatorships

It is a slow process of using tanks etc so as to slowly implement it.

Guns is the last impediment to him.

It is all over when that horrible president takes our guns.

That will be the last step.

What a mess. I will have to send up a few more prayers when I am at the Mennonite church

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posted September 21, 2013 09:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Obama is extreme even for the far left. He won't be allowed to strip away any more freedoms. In the 2014 elections, the tide will turn. Any liberals wanting to keep their seats will distance themselves from him, but it won't help many of them.

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posted September 21, 2013 09:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There's going to be a landslide victory for Republicans to rival the height of Newt's followers' rise in the Contract With America days.

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posted September 21, 2013 09:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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There's going to be a landslide victory for Republicans to rival the height of Newt's followers' rise in the Contract With America days.


If I was allowed a wish, it would be this, Randall

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posted September 21, 2013 10:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Randall

Obama had so much voter fraud. Millions of dead people voted.

I told you that I SAW, with my own two eyes, people who could vote because some people "knew" them in the neighborhood i.e community something.

It was on there as a valid means to vote.

Someone could say he knew 50 people from his neighborhood and they all could vote.

If that happens, we have no more voting rights than Cuba or any other such place.

I have a friend who escaped Chavez. It could happen here.

I want to be wrong more than I want anything

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posted September 23, 2013 12:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Obama vs the people who oppose Obama like Jwhop and me( and others on here) is the TRUE and PURE fight between evil and good

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