posted October 04, 2013 02:07 PM            

I listened to her speech on CSpan radio this morning on the way to work.

She outlines who, what, where, when, why and how.

Government is necessary.

The anarchists in the Tea Party ~ Née the House of Representatives. Would like you to think otherwise.

120,000 thousand dollars per AMERICAN were lost. Fourteen Trillion with a T, were lost. Under the Bush2 admin.

Our response is ~ not to give up.

Government matters.

One chamber of Congress has resorted to extremist tactics to make gov appear dysfunctional, and thus, unnecessary.

For over 200 years we have fought against these types. We have defeated extremists before, and we can do it now.

When you paralyze it. you do nothing but make us realize we are stronger when we come together.

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I got mine, the rest of you are on your own.
that is what the House Republicans are telling you.

I urge free thinkers, I urge those with sense to listen, reflect, and make their own call.

To my mind it is unfortunate that Elizabeth Warren has made the speech that the President should have made.

I want the President to get on the TV and tell people what Elizabeth Warren told me. And thus, much of America.

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I also listened to call after call from people to CSpan-- from voting republicans-- saying, next election they are voting Democrat.

I am an independent. I think the left and the right do not represent me. Our government has a 90% incumbency. that means that they are either unchallenged in their district.= Or, through rampant gerrymandering any election is already won--

Louisiana holds the #1 spot for underrepresentation through gerrymandering.

I liz
http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/Corkeran

posted October 04, 2013 02:47 PM            

I wonder why Cruz is being downplayed by his own party?

posted October 04, 2013 06:57 PM            

—By Kevin Drum

| Fri Oct. 4, 2013 3:00 AM PDT


At its core, the dispute over the budget and the debt ceiling isn't complicated at all. But it is full of misconceptions and urban myths. Here are the 10 facts worth remembering past all the obfuscation:

• 1. Democrats have already agreed to fund the government at Republican levels.

• 2. Despite what you might have heard, there have only been two serious government shutdowns in recent history, and both were the result of Republican ultimatums.

• 3. Democrats in the Senate have been begging the House to negotiate over the budget for the past six months, but Republicans have refused.

• 4. That's because Republicans wanted to wait until they had either a government shutdown or a debt ceiling breach as leverage, something they've been very clear about all along.

• 5. Republicans keep talking about compromise, but they've offered nothing in return for agreeing to their demands—except to keep the government intact if they get their way.

• 6. The public is very strongly opposed to using a government shutdown to stop Obamacare.

• 7. Contrary to Republican claims, the deficit is not increasing—it peaked in 2009 and has been dropping ever since, declining by $200 billion last year with another $450 billion drop projected this year.

• 8. A long government shutdown is likely to seriously hurt economic growth, with a monthlong shutdown projected to slash GDP in the fourth quarter by 1 percentage point and reduce employment by over a million jobs.

• 9. No, Democrats have not used debt ceiling hostage taking in the past to force presidents to accept their political agenda.

• 10. This whole dispute is about the Republican Party fighting to make sure the working poor don't have access to affordable health care.
  

posted October 05, 2013 07:50 AM            

Bernie Sanders of VT

People may not know:

quote:

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Capitol Police--

It is "a national disgrace" that the Capitol Police are not being paid during the shutdown, Sanders told ABC News after officers responded to an incident on Thursday that ended in gunfire and the death of a woman who resisted arrest while driving erratically through security barriers at the White House and the Capitol

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The Police for our District of Columbia are working without pay

posted October 05, 2013 07:56 AM            

Liz Warren can be trusted to tell the truth...after she's lied for years about her supposed Indian heritage?

After lying Lizzy used her non existent Indian heritage to get a job at Harvard...AS A MINORITY, lying Lizzy is a person you can trust to tell the truth?

Hahahaha

Lying Lizzy is most definitely NOT "One person you can trust to speak the truth".

posted October 05, 2013 10:45 AM            

Please do tell, how you know what they don't?

According to this piece, which is obviously not pro-Warren (and predicts Brown winning Massachussetts w a large margin) though her touting Cherokee blood might be fantastical, it was not "used to get her her job at Harvard"

I mean, 1/32 Cherokee? That makes WHO a minority? http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2012-05-23/opinions/35456108_1_minority-status-elizabeth-warren-32nd-cherokee

“At some point after I was hired by them, I… provided that information to the University of Pennsylvania and Harvard,” Warren said in a statement to the Boston Globe, the newspaper reported. “My Native American heritage is part of who I am, I’m proud of it and I have been open about it.”

Someone whose family believed there were Cherokee in their background likes to identify with this link. Not seeing anyone claiming she got her job by using this claim?

posted October 05, 2013 11:41 AM            

I don't suppose they did check out lying Lizzy's claims. If they had done so, they would have talked to the council of the Cherokee Nation...who dispute her claim.

Lizzy Warren is just another lying Socialist Progressive who gamed the system by claiming minority status to get a plum job at Harvard.

There are no birth records, marriage records, Indian Affairs records, genealogy records or any other records to back up a word lying Lizzy says.

But, let it be noted that here you are again Catalina/katatonic in full defense of a Socialist Progressive demoscat...even though you say...you're not much into dems. What a strange coincidence to always find you in defense of demoscats...who you're not much into.

Cherokees Set Up Website – Demand Truth From Phony Indian Elizabeth Warren
Posted by Jim Hoft on Sunday, June 3, 2012, 12:06 AM

Although she claimed to be Native American when she was hired at Harvard there are no Native Americans in Elizabeth Warren’s genealogy.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/06/cherokees-set-up-website-demand-truth-from-phony-indian-elizabeth-warren/

Cherokees hammer Elizabeth Warren on ancestry claim ahead of Mass. party convention

Indian reporters and activists want answers from Massachusetts Senate candidate Elizabeth Warren, who has given muddled replies about whether she used unsupported claims of Cherokee ancestry to further her academic career at Harvard.

"This week, Indian reporters say they were snubbed by Warren’s campaign as they sought clarification on why Ms. Warren was listed as a minority Native faculty by Harvard in the 1990s, even though she has no evidence to back that claim and apparently never sought out other Native Americans on campus."

"Warren was listed in the early 1990s as a minority professor at Harvard University, but the only proof Warren has of her claim of 1/32nd Cherokee blood is family stories about high cheek bones that came from an ancestor. In order for Warren to be 1/32nd Indian, it means that the ancestor had to be a full-blooded Cherokee. But on May 15, the New England Historic Genealogical Society said the group “has no proof that Elizabeth Warren’s great-great-great-grandmother O.C. Sarah Smith either is or is not of Cherokee descent."

posted October 05, 2013 12:12 PM            

"No proof for OR AGAINST" according to the New England Genealogical Society.

I have never heard of genealogy being used to trace the occupations of ancestors..as in that suggestion that her distant forbear herded natives on the trail of tears. IF it were true, it's also possible he forced himself on s native woman...but DNA doesn't tell whether you were in Kansas or Paris at any given time UNLESS you mixrd genes with someone known to hsve been there @ the time.

How is DNA discovered? Do you leave it on the tree you brush up against?

posted October 05, 2013 12:29 PM            

particularly of late.

posted October 05, 2013 01:03 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Catalina:
I know, node, and I often think we should just leave him to talk to his buds here...but they run out of things to say so quickly I feel sorry for them!

The amazing thing is that considering how much of the media is owned by Murdoch and the Kochs, how few people become this brainwashed.

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We don't run out of things to say. We will always have some sort of comic relief, seeing as you and Node-y never can say goodbye. Another song

http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum27/HTML/001394.html

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posted October 05, 2013 01:43 PM            

And, I fully support anyone who is interested in a dialog,
a conversation,
the sharing of ideas/ideologies.
They do not have to agree with mine.

That is the biggest problem with congress, the lack of dialog, the meaningless spouting of rhetoric, over, and over.

posted October 05, 2013 01:49 PM            

No one at Harvard looked at lying Lizzy and just noted on her employment application that she was a minority. She applied for that teaching position as a minority and she's a "Not to be trusted" lying phony.

posted October 05, 2013 02:16 PM            

In 2009, the Boston Globe named her the Bostonian of the Year,
and the Women's Bar Association of Massachusetts honored her with the Lelia J. Robinson Award.
She was named one of Time Magazine's 100 Most Influential People in the World in 2009 and 2010.
The National Law Journal repeatedly has named Warren as one of the Fifty Most Influential Women Attorneys in America, and in 2010 it honored her as one of the 40 most influential attorneys of the decade.

In 2011, Elizabeth Warren was inducted into the Oklahoma Hall of Fame.
In January 2012, Warren was named a "Top-20 U.S. Progressive" by the New Statesman, a magazine based in the United Kingdom.

In 2009, Warren became the first professor in Harvard's history to win the law school's The Sacks-Freund Teaching Award for a second time.
She delivered the commencement address at the Rutgers School of Law–Newark in May 2011, where she was awarded an Honorary Doctor of Laws degree and was conferred membership into the Order of the Coif.

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Thank you for your opinions JW.

posted October 05, 2013 02:18 PM            

However there is plenty of evidence in your own words that you are here not to reason but to inflame snd "flush out" people you have decided are idiots and anti-americsn ..ie people who object to your over the top positions.

In the first 20 threads here 4(four) are by someone other thsn you, Ami and Randall.