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juniperb
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posted March 05, 2017 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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You don't have to like the Pundit. It's a copy of the source you asked for, which is a video from the FOX News interview from yesterday, which I watched live. I know you can't watch videos, but others might want to see it.

Thank you. I saw the interview on the news and what I heard was not , in October, wiretpping occured as a fact

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posted March 05, 2017 03:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Areu's source within the Obama administration confirms it happened, and Obama knew about it. And if it did happen during the election, then it's obvious why.

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posted March 05, 2017 03:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I haven't seen that it was a fact, either. I've only seen that Breitbart accused him of that, and rump ran with it.

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posted March 05, 2017 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He said that she,said that somebody said that...
Puleez
"Confirmed"? Puleez x 10
What a bunch of gossips!

If it is true, and confirmstion is,a looong way off, it is Trump who looks to be in trouble as the FISA granting a warrant doesnt happen because pie in the sky.

This story bears all the hallmarks of fake news even as defined by Orangino.. no sources, no evidence, just accusations to counter those in the other direction

Great distracting from Congress trying to gut SS, pollution laws, the nastiness of the current push to split up immigrant families.

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posted March 05, 2017 04:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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If it is true, and confirmstion is,a looong way off, it is Trump who looks to be in trouble as the FISA granting a warrant doesnt happen because pie in the sky.

Exactly. If true, FISA had a darn good legal reason and that`s why I said it may be a trumpster who gets jailed.

There are no facts yet or evidence to support Trumps claim. To believe it is foolish until facts and evidence are submitted.

Until then, heresay period.

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posted March 05, 2017 04:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And as a distraction, it gets the eyes and ears off Sessions and the other foul smelling deeds.

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posted March 05, 2017 04:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Trump's not going anywhere, except forward with his agenda. They may change the rules and go nuclear, so they can completely repeal and replace Obamacare. Sessions isn't stepping down either.

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posted March 05, 2017 04:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A good read.

If Feds Did Wiretap Trump Tower, It’s Not Obama Who Should Worry


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What makes the broader allegation so extraordinary isn’t that it is new. Quite the contrary. Various reports that the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court granted Justice Department investigators a warrant to probe the Trump campaign’s ties with Russia surfaced in November. What makes Trump’s Twitter tirade so striking is what prompted it, and what it might imply if it’s true.

Anatomy of an Allegation
Baffling as it may be, it appears Trump’s accusation stems from a recent article published on Breitbart, the conservative news outlet formerly run by White House senior adviser Stephen Bannon.

“This is a somewhat stunning, in so far as the president of the United States doesn’t need to get his information about classified activity from Breitbart,” says Cato Institute fellow Julian Sanchez.

That story, “Mark Levin to Congress: Investigate Obama’s ‘Silent Coup’ Vs. Trump,” rehashes comments the titular conservative radio host made Thursday equating the previously reported FISA warrant with a “police state,” and accuses Obama of a politically motivated, covert attempt to undermine Trump and his associates.

It’s unclear just what prompted Levin’s rant, or why Trump glommed onto it. Although no one has confirmed a FISA investigation, or wiretaps in Trump Tower, several news outlets have reported the former’s existence. The most detailed account thus far, from the BBC in January, provided a timeline: The Justice Department sought a FISA warrant in June to intercept communications from two Russian banks suspected of facilitating donations to the Trump campaign. The judge reportedly rejected the warrant, as well as a narrower version sought in July. A new judge granted the order in mid-October, according to the BBC.


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While the order would have been requested by some part of the executive branch, Obama can’t order anything. Nor can Trump,” says former NSA lawyer April Doss, who stresses that her comments are based only on public information. “The order has to come from the court, and the court operates independently.”

FISA court judges serve seven-year appointments, so the court’s composition doesn’t ebb and flow with the political tides. What’s more, specific laws adopted in the wake of Watergate prevent the very activity Trump accuses Obama of.

“You can’t tap the phones of a political candidate for political purposes,” says Doss.

What you could tap them for? Acting as a foreign power, or as an agent of a foreign power. In other words, spying against US interests with both knowledge and intent.


https://www.wired.com/2017/03/feds-wiretap-trump-tower-not-obama-worry/

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posted March 05, 2017 04:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Trump's not going anywhere, except forward with his agenda. They may change the rules and go nuclear, so they can completely repeal and replace Obamacare. Sessions isn't stepping down either.

His agenda to destroy our environment, and this country.

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posted March 05, 2017 04:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:
His agenda to destroy our environment, and this country.

He proposing in cutting Great Lakes funding by 95%.

Can you imagine the loss of funds to protect them?

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posted March 05, 2017 05:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by juniperb:
He proposing in cutting Great Lakes funding by 95%.

Can you imagine the loss of funds to protect them?


I know. I saw that this morning.

I meant to post this a little while ago: http://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/05/us/politics/trump-seeks-inquiry-into-allegations-that-obama-tapped-his-phones.html?smid=tw-share

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posted March 05, 2017 05:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ that is exactly the true news story. No evidence, no facts.. pure hearsay and not acceptable in any court of law.

It appears he has dug a widening hole for his self.

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posted March 05, 2017 06:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What i want to know is
When is the expedition to the edge of the earth scheduled to start?

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posted March 05, 2017 06:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Comey is taking a stand and asking the Justice to outright reject the claims.

The very Comey Republicans hailed as a hero over releasing Hillarys emails.

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posted March 05, 2017 07:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No one said Obama "ordered" it.

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posted March 06, 2017 07:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What you could tap them for? Acting as a foreign power, or as an agent of a foreign power. In other words, spying against US interests with both knowledge and intent.

NSA Doss

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posted March 06, 2017 07:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What you could tap them for? Acting as a foreign power, or as an agent of a foreign power. In other words, spying against US interests with both knowledge and intent.

Former NSA lawyer, Doss

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posted March 06, 2017 07:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Actually, Obama requested it. And they found nothing.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/03/obama-admin-source-confirms-w iretapping-conducted-video/?mtcid=cf


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No one said Obama "ordered" it


Request/ordered.

He was the POTUS so how do you want to split hairs here?

when it comes to a POTUS a "request" can be taken as an order.

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posted March 06, 2017 10:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK, time to raise your hands! How many of you believe President Trump is:

Acting as a foreign power, or as an agent of a foreign power. In other words, spying against US interests with both knowledge and intent.

Let's see how deep in delusion some here really are!

Full Clapper: 'No Evidence' of Collusion Between Trump and Russia
Sun, Mar 05

In an exclusive interview with Meet the Press, Former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper says that there wasn't evidence of collusion between Russia and Trump earlier this year.
http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/full-clapper-no-evidence-of-collusion-between-trump-and-russia-890509379597

What is evident in all these fake news stories is voluminous hot smelly air.

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posted March 06, 2017 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Still haven't seen confirmation. Even his puppy Morning Joe, was calling him unpresidential, and mentally ill.

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posted March 06, 2017 02:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So, you're raising your hand as one of the delusional psychotics who believe President Trump is acting as a "foreign power" or as an "agent" of a foreign power?

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Here's another delusional psychotic...who claimed there's transcripts of Trump or the Trump campaign holding conversations with Russians. Oh, and not just holding conversations with Russians..BUT "Colluding with Russia".

If those transcripts exist, they're the product of wiretapping...which is exactly what President Trump alleges.

Chris Wallace Accuses Dem Sen of ‘More Than a Whiff of McCarthyism’
Pam Key
5 Mar 2017

On this weekend’s broadcast of “Fox News Sunday,” host Chris Wallace questioned Sen. Chris Coons (D-DE) over comments he made during an MSNBC interview last Friday where he said that the intelligence community had transcripts of conversations between Russia and the Trump campaign.

After playing the video clip of Coons saying there are transcripts that provide ”very critical insights” into whether Russia was “colluding with the Trump campaign,” Wallace asked, “Senator, we’re talking here about the President of the United States, isn’t there more than a whiff of McCarthyism for you as a U.S. Senator to say there are transcripts out there that provide insight into whether or not there was collusion, but you don’t know whether they exist?”

After initially defending his comments as an attempt to encourage the Senate Intelligence Committee to be given access to the raw intelligence, Coons admitted there is no “hard evidence of collusion,” and apologized.
http://www.breitbart.com/video/2017/03/05/chris-wallace-accuses-dem-sen-of-more-than-a-whiff-of-mccarthyism/

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posted March 06, 2017 02:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, jwhop.. unlike you she is suggesting the facts be unearthed. Nice attempt at putting words in her mouth. At this point all we have is a baseless accusation from His Hinieness very similar to his conviction that Obama wasnt born in Hawaii...

He is nothing if not predictable once you see the template

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LOL Catalina....I heard the next ban is going to be on witches because Hillary clinton was spied in a witches coven! Thats probably after the journey to the edge of the earth.

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posted March 06, 2017 04:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This lastest is just a page from his playbook of what to do when in deep caca.

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