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Topic: Wiretapping Confirmed!
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Randall
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posted March 04, 2017 08:27 PM
  
Even though Obama denies it, a source within the Obama administration confirmed it today with liberal journalist, Areu. We know it was denied by the secret court in June. The source confirms it happened in October. The source confirms Obama was aware of it. The only question is who sent the request. The source doesn't know.IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted March 04, 2017 08:30 PM
From what I've heard, it could only occur with proper authorization, which would mean that they had good reason to suspect that trump was up to no good. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted March 04, 2017 08:41 PM
The FISA Court ruled no probable cause in June. If it happened in October, then someone lied. It was touted as a due diligence issue. It was a fishing expedition with no facts to support it. Obama may not have ordered it (a President can't legally order a wiretap), but in the very least, he knew about it. Either someone lied to get the warrant or there wasn't a warrant at all.IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted March 04, 2017 08:49 PM
It should be noted that to misuse the process by lying to the FISA Court is five years in prison.IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted March 04, 2017 09:19 PM
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Originally posted by Randall:
It should be noted that to misuse the process by lying to the FISA Court is five years in prison.
https://twitter.com/tribelaw/status/838102754971238401 It sounds like they had cause for concern. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted March 04, 2017 09:30 PM
It was abuse of power and a political decision. Someone is going to prison this time.IP: Logged |
jwhop
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posted March 04, 2017 11:03 PM
Amendment IVThe right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. Notice that it's the affiant who states probable cause and there's no requirement for judges to examine in depth the truth of the stated probable cause which is taken at face value by the judge. I agree with Randall. Someone or several someones is going to prison for swearing a false oath or affirmation, having lied to a federal judge about "probable cause". This is what we know so far. Not one shred of evidence has surfaced that Russia hacked Podesta's email or the DNC emails. Only the word of Obama sycophants, Brennen and Clapper...Obama appointees. Not one shred of evidence has surfaced that anyone in the Trump campaign colluded with or conspired with Russia to damage the Hillary The Corrupt campaign to throw the election to President Trump. On one thing you can be certain. There are internal investigations in the CIA, FBI, NSA, Homeland Security and other intelligence agencies to find out the source of the supposed information and the sources/persons of the secret information leaked to the lunatic leftist press to damage Trump.
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Randall
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posted March 05, 2017 12:28 AM
To use intelligence gathering services against a political opponent during a campaign is a move toward a police state. The FBI has FISA jurisdiction, so my money is on Lynch.IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted March 05, 2017 07:31 AM
It's also bad to collude with Russia, to influence an election, and to invite them to hack your opponent. Nothing about him is professional, he's a sexual predator, and nothing you can say will change my mind.IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted March 05, 2017 07:49 AM
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By confirming it publicly, Trump has also pretty much guaranteed no one can be charged for leaking the existence of this FISA warrant. Oops!
http://twitter.com/matthewamiller/status/838014410979430401 IP: Logged |
juniperb
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posted March 05, 2017 08:00 AM
This is simple. If Trump & crew were not colluding with the russians, NONE of this bunch of false news would be here. There is NO eveidence Lynch santioned a wiretap BUT there is evidence Trumps crew snuggled up to the Russians. Someone just may go to prision and it just may be a Trumpster for collusion. ------------------
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juniperb
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posted March 05, 2017 08:14 AM
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How low has President Obama gone to tap (sic) my phones during the very sacred election process. This is Nixon/Watergage. Bad (or sick) guy!” the president continued.Trump does not specify how he uncovered the Obama administration's alleged wiretapping. However, he could be referencing a Breitbart article posted Friday that claimed the administration made two Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISA) requests in 2016 to monitor Trump communications and a computer server in Trump Tower, related to possible links with Russian banks.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/03/04/trump-accuses-obama-administration-wiretapping-trump-tower-phones.html
Breitbart can`t influence my thinking and it`s only attempting to deflect from Sessions and others who may be in the soup.------------------
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juniperb
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posted March 05, 2017 08:15 AM
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Originally posted by Randall:
Even though Obama denies it, a source within the Obama administration confirmed it today with liberal journalist, Areu. We know it was denied by the secret court in June. The source confirms it happened in October. The source confirms Obama was aware of it. The only question is who sent the request. The source doesn't know.
BTW, what is your source for this> I tried to find something parallel but a no go. ------------------
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Randall
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posted March 05, 2017 08:24 AM
There's no evidence whatsoever of anyone in the Trump camp colluding with Russia over the election. Zilch. And bringing the wiretap to the public is a good thing. Publicity is the cure to government evils. The source is Areu herself in an inteview on FOX News, but you would never know that, since you go to FAKE News for your sources.IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted March 05, 2017 08:25 AM
I refuse to grace the Breitbart website, with my presence and my internet connection. I read elsewhere, that Obama never interfered with the FBI or anyone else - anything they did, had nothing to do with Obama.IP: Logged |
juniperb
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posted March 05, 2017 10:42 AM
Confirmed. Support that word? Now Fox news is fake  ------------------
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juniperb
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posted March 05, 2017 10:45 AM
If there is FACTS for the "confirmed" , please put it out here. Until then, fake news and deflection is all ya got. ------------------
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Randall
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posted March 05, 2017 10:45 AM
Actually, Obama requested it. And they found nothing.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/03/obama-admin-source-confirms-wiretapping-conducted-video/?mtcid=cf IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted March 05, 2017 11:32 AM
Obama requested the tap in June. We know that is a fact. It was denied, which almost never happens in a FISA request. Obama's Justice Dept. made the request again in October, and it was approved. We don't know who made the request, but if Obama did it the first time, only a fool would think his input wasn't involved the second time. We also know nothing was found.IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted March 05, 2017 11:38 AM
Obama was behind the DOJ raid on Gibson guitar, which used the same wood as its competitors, but Gibson is a Republican. Obama was behind the IRS targeting tea party groups. So, Obama has used various agencies in the past against his political adversaries, not to mention his bugging of the press and jailing and threats of jailing them. Obama also interfered in the elections of other nations, including the bugging of them. Police state anyone?IP: Logged |
juniperb
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posted March 05, 2017 01:13 PM
It isn`t the "Obama did it" that bothers me. It`s the reason behind it. Where there is smoke, there is fire. I don`t give much credence to the gatewaypundit.Their reputation is about as valid as the daily mail. ------------------
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teasel
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posted March 05, 2017 01:36 PM
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Originally posted by juniperb:
It isn`t the "Obama did it" that bothers me. It`s the reason behind it. Where there is smoke, there is fire. I don`t give much credence to the gatewaypundit.Their reputation is about as valid as the daily mail.
Yeah, the reason behind it is conveniently being ignored by some. Obama didn't request it, though, Randall. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted March 05, 2017 01:37 PM
You don't have to like the Pundit. It's a copy of the source you asked for, which is a video from the FOX News interview from yesterday, which I watched live. I know you can't watch videos, but others might want to see it.IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted March 05, 2017 01:39 PM
Obama did request the first one. And the reason behind it is political, because Trump wasn't going to keep Obama's legacy. IP: Logged |
juniperb
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posted March 05, 2017 02:55 PM
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Originally posted by Randall:
Obama did request the first one. And the reason behind it is political, because Trump wasn't going to keep Obama's legacy.
No, it was because of the Russian connections . So far, the business connections is what I`ve read. Either way, Russia is a valid reason.. Not anything to do with his silly legacy. ------------------
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