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Catalina
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posted March 16, 2017 02:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's what he always does. Someone suggests he isn't kosher on something and he pulls out an accusation, just like the schoolyard bully does, meant to deflect the blame into the whistleblower.

We are all being watched. Listened to. Recorded even. Mostly just trawling and not actual listening but there are "bugs" everywhere. He has had big time moneylaunderers as tenants.. if he didn't realize that would draw surveillance... what else doesn't he realize?

Who wants to bet that the tvs he watches all the time have recording abilities? Its not Obama who's checking on him tho...

Intel may have party preferences but they are not party appointees. They work across administrations.
http://www.digitalnewsnetwork.net/2017/03/08/julian-assange-reve als-the-cias-biggest-secret-the-weeping-angel/

Maybe one day you'll get past your party blindness and realize its not about Dems or Repubs...

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posted March 16, 2017 11:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Let's remind the uninformed, it isn't President Trump who set up the active monitoring of US citizens, their emails, phone calls, social media accounts and postings.

NO, NO, NO. That was the little Marxist Messiah, Obama, the icon of the uninformed leftists among us.

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posted March 16, 2017 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wasn`t Bush that Godfather ? ^

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posted March 16, 2017 06:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Reauthorized and expanded under Obama. Not to mention the expanded list of who in the government can access the raw intelligence data.

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posted March 16, 2017 07:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They have always used everything they've got. The Patriot Act was a huge stride in the direction of making their snooping legal. Ans the "enhancements" enacted by veto proof (largely Republican) VOTE GO UNDER O's nane yes!

Tho they were ensconced in NDAA bills written and almost unanimously passed by your lovely Repub Congress..also responsible for the PA

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posted March 16, 2017 11:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ummm, passed the demoscat controlled Senate...and signed by the Marxist Messiah, Obama!

They wanted it badly.

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posted March 17, 2017 09:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jwhop:
Reauthorized and expanded under Obama. Not to mention the expanded list of who in the government can access the raw intelligence data.

Reauthorized is countable back to Bush tho. Just sayin`

He is the father of the Patriot Act which has grown into the expected nightmare it is.

First the seed then the "plant"

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posted March 17, 2017 10:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
True, it started under W but was reauthorized and expanded under Obama.

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posted March 17, 2017 01:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Obama allowed the sharing of intelligence two weeks before he left. Why? So, it would be near impossible to find out who was doing the leaking.

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posted March 17, 2017 04:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
Obama allowed the sharing of intelligence two weeks before he left. Why? So, it would be near impossible to find out who was doing the leaking.

Supposition, over ruled

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posted March 19, 2017 10:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Funny isn't it that now, Britain, Democrats and others are staunchly denying that British intelligence...GCHQ/MI6 investigated President Trump and his campaign at the behest of American intelligence. Denying it now but almost immediately after President Trump said Obama wiretapped him, the head of that British intelligence agency...GCHQ/MI6 got FIRED.

How John Brennan and Some Brits Tried to Tip the Election to Hillary
George Neumayr
March 15, 2017

They investigated candidate Trump and then planted smears in the English press about it.

Christopher Steele is the former British spy who compiled the “garbage” dossier on Trump-Russia ties, as Bob Woodward put it. That garbage dossier was cravenly and opaquely hyped by the American press until BuzzFeed released it, at which point the public could see its transparently ludicrous and uncorroborated contents. The release of the dossier exposed the vague, heavy-breathing allusions to it by CNN and the “intelligence community” as nothing more than an idiotic smear against Trump.

Steele had been zealously working to blow up Trump’s candidacy. Such was his anti-Trump fervor that he furnished his late-hit services to the Democrats for free. According to a story planted in the United Kingdom’s Independent, “at the end he was working without pay.”

Written in a style designed to flatter its source, the story said that a deeply worried Steele was shoveling his phony intelligence to John Brennan and British spies, as well as trying to prod FBI director James Comey into accelerating his investigation into Trump (the same investigation that the American press now pretends never happened):

Mr Steele also decided to pass on information to both British and American intelligence officials after concluding that such material should not just be in the hands of political opponents of Mr Trump, who had hired his services, but was a matter of national security for both countries.

However, say security sources, Mr Steele became increasingly frustrated that the FBI was failing to take action on the intelligence from others as well as him. He came to believe there was a cover-up, that a cabal within the Bureau blocked a thorough inquiry into Mr Trump, focusing instead on the investigation into Hillary Clinton’s emails.

It is believed that a colleague of Mr Steele in Washington, Glenn Simpson, a former Wall Street Journal reporter who runs the firm Fusion GPS, felt the same way and, at the end also continued with the Trump case without being paid…

In October a frustrated and demoralised Mr Steele, while on a trip to New York, spoke about what he has discovered to David Corn, the Washington editor of the magazine Mother Jones. There was a little flurry of interest that quickly died down.

Some of that flurry of interest came from Senator Harry Reid, who quickly penned an angry letter to Comey, demanding that he release material from his investigation into Trump-Russia ties — again, the same investigation that the Adam Schiffs and his friends in the press now claim is a figment of Trump’s imagination. At next week’s Congressional hearing, Republicans should read to Adam Schiff Harry Reid’s letter to Comey, especially this part that provides yet another confirmation Comey had begun an investigation into candidate Trump:

In my communications with you and other top officials in the national security community, it has become clear that you possess explosive information about close ties and coordination between Donald Trump, his top advisors, and the Russian government…

Meanwhile, John Brennan and his circle of anti-Trump radicals were leaking to the British press. To the BBC’s Paul Wood, they leaked that Brennan was the instigator of Comey’s investigation into Trump. Brennan, according to Wood, had received a lead from an intelligence agency in a “Baltic country,” to the effect that the Kremlin was funneling money into the Trump campaign.

At the same time, Brennan was telling the press that he wanted to continue as CIA director under Hillary. Also vying for that job was former acting CIA director Mike Morrell, who wrote a staggeringly unprofessional Op-Ed in the New York Times slobbering over Hillary and endorsing her while calling Trump a pawn in the hands of Putin. (Naturally, the press never asked Brennan or anyone else at the CIA if they were recusing themselves from any investigation into Trump-Russia ties given their hyper-partisanship.)

What other British spies joined Brennan and Steele in their anti-Trump crusade? This is another question for Congress to address next week if it is serious about looking at the interference of foreign countries in our elections. Why is it that many of the leaked stories about an Obama administration investigation into Trump-Russia ties originated in the British press (BBC, the Guardian, anti-Trump British journalist and pol Louise Mensch)? Did the Obama administration outsource some of its spying on Trump to the Brits, who had access to the NSA database?

Yes, says Judge Andrew Napolitano, who claimed on Monday that “three intelligence sources have informed Fox News that President Obama went outside the chain of command” and made use of British intelligence with its “24-hour access” to the NSA’s database.

Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson, the former chief of staff to Colin Powell at the State Department, is also persuaded that British intelligence was cooperating with John Brennan’s fishing expedition into candidate Trump. He said last Tuesday:

There are a number of events that have occurred in the last 96 hours or so that lead me to believe that maybe even the Democratic party, whatever element of it, approached John Brennan at the CIA, maybe even the former president of the United States. And John Brennan, not wanting his fingerprints to be on anything, went to his colleague in London GCHQ, MI6 and essentially said, “Give me anything you’ve got.” And he got something and he turned it over to the DNC or to someone like that. And what he got was GHCQ MI6’s tapes of conversations of the Trump administration perhaps, even the President himself. It’s really kind of strange, at least to me, they let the head of that organization go, fired him about the same time this was brewing up. So I’m not one to defend Trump, but in this case he might be right. It’s just that it wasn’t the FBI. Comey’s right, he wasn’t wire-tapping anybody, it was John Brennan, at the CIA. And you say, “What would be John Brennan’s motivation?” Well, clearly he wanted to remain Director of the CIA for Hillary Clinton when she was elected President of the United States, which he had every reason to believe, as did lots of us, that she would be.

It was, however, a multi-agency investigation into Trump-Russia ties, according to the leaks to Heat Street and the BBC. So it is entirely possible that both Comey and Brennan were investigating Trump simultaneously, with the FBI seeking warrants or using “traditional investigative techniques” (as Circa News put it) and Brennan using less traditional ones.

But at the very least we know that Christopher Steele and John Brennan, along with the British spies, journalists, and pols to whom they were leaking, were desperately trying to tip the election to Hillary.

What a perversely appropriate duo for this appalling fiasco: Steele, a “confirmed socialist” before he entered MI6, according to the British press, and Brennan, a supporter of the American Communist Party during the Cold War (by his own admission), before entering the CIA. The details of their mischief are still coming into focus, but when they do the “relationship” between the two countries will look less special than sour.
http://spectator.org/how-john-brennan-and-some-brits-tried-to-tip-the-election-to-hillary/

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posted March 20, 2017 06:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lol
Why so many bodies under the bus? Flynn was just some "volunteer for the campaign"? Check! Your memory is playing tricks on in you friends... nothing to see here🤣

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/spicer-tries-distanc e-trump-top-members-his-campaign-team?cid=sm_fb_maddow

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posted March 20, 2017 07:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not!!

Can`t wait for the rest of the investigation to unfold.

would Trump be impeached if he has dirty hands....

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posted March 20, 2017 11:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Looks like the rest of the investigation will be dodging and distracting like you know who. ******* .

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posted March 21, 2017 12:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, we all know who got himself out of the jurisdiction of the United States.

Obama sure wouldn't want the House and/or Senate investigating committees to hand him a subpoena to testify under oath so he bugged out....just in time to miss the public televised questioning of Comey and Rogers today...and more Obama administration intelligence officials next week. If he stays in Tahiti long enough, maybe those committees will forget all about whom all those intelligence agency heads actually reported to.

Oh, I forgot. Obama is supposedly on Tahiti to write a new book. Now, why would anyone believe that since the domestic communist terrorist bomber, Bill Ayers is the writer of Obama's supposed masterpiece?

Obama jets off to paradise
Kelly Mclaughlin
16 March 2017

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4319430/Obama-travels-Marlon-Brando-s-private-Polynesian-island.html

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posted March 21, 2017 12:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He's allowed to go where he likes jwhop. Get a grip. If they want him around they can get him back. They have communications in Tahiti.

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posted March 21, 2017 12:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't you think it funny that the WH thinks we've all forgotten who Flynn is and what his job was before he "resigned"? Or do you think they are professional gaslighters?

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posted March 21, 2017 09:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Why so many bodies under the bus? Flynn was just some "volunteer for the campaign"

What? Why are you attempting to suggest Flynn was just a campaign hanger-on?

Further, Flynn wasn't "thrown under the bus".
Flynn was fired for not disclosing to Pence that he had conversations with the Russian Ambassador. The content of those conversations wasn't the issue. The fact he misinformed the Vice President who then went on National Television and said Flynn had no such meetings or conversations.

Now, name all those so called bodies thrown under the bus?

Yeah, the Marxist Messiah Obama is free to travel but it's telling that he decided "to travel" out of US jurisdiction just as House and Senate investigations are really heating up. We're supposed to believe he's in Tahiti to pen his memoirs. The problem is, his ghost writer, the domestic communist terrorist bomber Bill Ayers didn't go with him.

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posted March 21, 2017 01:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The hearings will still be there when he gets back sweetie. Rome didn't fall in a day

As to Flynn I suggest you go back to what i actually said. It isn't I who have thrown him under the bus claiming he was just some guy who volunteered on the campaign. But seeing as you find it ridiculous for me to do so i look forward to your defense of the staffer who did 🤣😉😂

Hint: you obviously didn't read the link AGAIN

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posted March 21, 2017 01:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you have a name for this recently fired head of Brit Intel?

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posted March 21, 2017 03:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Who are those "others" you allege Trump threw under the bus?

Don't expect to see the Marxist Messiah back in the US until it's clear he won't be subpoenaed to testify under oath.

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posted March 22, 2017 12:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Only telling if you want to think that. On the other handRussians are dropping like flies
...without wings. Heart attacks with bashed in skulls, now this one

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posted March 22, 2017 01:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Coincidence or Text Book CIA "Honor Killings"?
http://www.globalresearch.ca/another-senior-russian-official-has-died-b rings-the-total-to-eight/5580686

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posted March 22, 2017 10:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is this question too hard for you to answer?

"Who are those "others" you allege Trump threw under the bus?"

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posted March 22, 2017 11:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You can bet, as it unfolds, Manafort and Page will have tire treads on their backs.

Casualties of the Putin Trump saga

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