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teasel Knowflake Posts: 10902 From: Registered: Apr 2009	posted August 19, 2017 01:38 AM quote: Originally posted by jwhop: Oh, you mean people illegally blocking roadways won't be protected..as in able to sue.. if they're struck by a vehicle of a person going about their lawful business? Hey ANTIFA, Hey Black Lives Matter and all the rest of the leftist thug choir; better confine your illegal thuggary to breaking storefront windows and setting police cars on fire. The only things I've broken, were things like glasses, by accident. I doubt that anyone here as broken windows on purpose, set police cars on fire, etc. IP: Logged
Randall Webmaster Posts: 86815 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009	posted August 19, 2017 04:59 AM My bad. Fascism. IP: Logged
teasel Knowflake Posts: 10902 From: Registered: Apr 2009	posted August 19, 2017 05:18 AM quote: Originally posted by Randall: My bad. Fascism. What? IP: Logged
Catalina Knowflake Posts: 5201 From: shamballa Registered: Aug 2013	posted August 19, 2017 12:13 PM I thought so Please reread the sentence. I'll repost it to make it easier to see Right or wrong they were there to confront what they consider fascism. Do you see the difference between this sentence and actually calling someone "fascists.. (ANTIFA)" Sometimes comprehension makes the diff between real and fake news, not the actual content IP: Logged
Randall Webmaster Posts: 86815 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009	posted August 19, 2017 06:29 PM In doing so, the way in which they do, they themselves exhibit fascism. IP: Logged
Catalina Knowflake Posts: 5201 From: shamballa Registered: Aug 2013	posted August 19, 2017 06:41 PM I think there is a widespread tendency to label fascist that which is not. Tryung to shut down someone else's speech is not necessarily fascism. Nor is racism necessarily fascist. For starters, fascism is about govt and corporate control, not something individuals do. This is another facet of hysterical narratives that is getting in the way of peoole coexisting with those they don't like. Throwing around terms like fascist, socialist and the like clouds the issues, it doesnt clarify them. IP: Logged
Randall Webmaster Posts: 86815 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009	posted August 19, 2017 07:07 PM Free speech is the number one barrier to fascism. IP: Logged
Catalina Knowflake Posts: 5201 From: shamballa Registered: Aug 2013	posted August 19, 2017 07:33 PM Yes..It is the barrier to any kind of totalitarianism. Fascism is just one variety. Free speech also threatens dictators, monarchs, the church and anyone who reserves the right to rule without consent or challenge One of the reasons the name Hitler comes up is that Hitler denigrated all press criticism as falsehood and instated an Official press to spread his word. It is not generally meant to imply that DT is firing up the ovens but as a warning that muzzling the press is a,step down the totalitarian road. A free press.. even if they are irresponsible.. is part off the free speech picture. As pire pointed out, Hitler didn't look so bad against the backdrop of corrupt and failing politics and chaos in 20s germany. IP: Logged
Randall Webmaster Posts: 86815 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009	posted August 19, 2017 08:39 PM No one is shutting down the free press. They are free to be fake. IP: Logged
Randall Webmaster Posts: 86815 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009	posted August 21, 2017 05:56 PM quote: Originally posted by juniperb: Every one on that Island was an individual and I`m not buying your shoes. You denounce ISIL as a murderous terrorist [b]group (rightly so) You don`t place individual blame there. Why do you put white nazi groups above them and denounce only a few violent ones?? A violent ideology is a violent ideology,yes? Is the difference that you disagree on all fronts with isil but adhere to much/some of the nazi group think? When do nazis or antifas if you like , as a group, get denounced as a whole not the naughty "few who were violent"? [/B] IP: Logged
Catalina Knowflake Posts: 5201 From: shamballa Registered: Aug 2013	posted August 21, 2017 06:11 PM Some of trumps own words. Taibbi makes the pertinent point that not everybody even heard all of them and that has played into the whole dynamic. But this is particularly apt re Randalls insistence that DT "already denounced Duke" (back when no one was listening) AND that he has dodged the question too The most infamous instance was after Klan leader David Duke pledged his support to Trump early in 2016, and a deadpan Trump pretended not to know what white supremacists or the KKK were. "I don't know what you're even talking about with 'white supremacy' or 'white supremacists,' " he croaked to CNN's incredulous Jake Tapper. He promised to "do research" and get back to us. Crucially, and this part of the record often gets overlooked, Trump would usually come around and push the conventional kumbaya take in subsequent media appearances, disavowing whatever horrible thing he just said 10 minutes before. It was a triple game. The initial hesitations and defiance reinforced his hero status with the outright race nuts, who caught his not-so-subtle signals of solidarity. Then, the belated denunciations and/or apologies reassured the merely closeted racist Republicans, a far more numerous group that didn't like to think of itself as openly prejudiced. And in the final stage, when he'd throw up his hands like a victim and say things like, "How many times do I have to reject or disavow?" he'd turn the issue all the way around. Each episode became a story not about Trump's attitudes, but about liberal-media unfairness and bias This endeared him to an even wider range of conservatives who may not have even heard the beginning of the story, but certainly hated the press enough. Trump hyped this question like the reality star he was: Tune in next week to find out just how insane or dangerous I really am! http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/taibbi-why-trump-cant-quit-the-alt -right-w498515 IP: Logged
Randall Webmaster Posts: 86815 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009	posted August 22, 2017 03:03 PM Nazis, as despicable as they are, are not as a group attacking soft targets with suicide bombers. Your comparison to ISIS is ridiculous. IP: Logged
Catalina Knowflake Posts: 5201 From: shamballa Registered: Aug 2013	posted August 22, 2017 03:38 PM No but vehicles as weapons is an oft used IS device. That car was perhaps not an isolated loony... http://m.d ailykos.com/stories/2017/8/22/1691013/-Leaks-show-Unite-the-Right-attendees-discussing-hitting-protesters-with-cars-before-Charlottesville? IP: Logged
Randall Webmaster Posts: 86815 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009	posted August 22, 2017 03:46 PM One loon does not a war make. We have declared war on ISIS. IP: Logged
juniperb Moderator Posts: 10805 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Apr 2009	posted August 22, 2017 03:47 PM Let him throw stones. No use trying to understand him because he just comes back round robin. ------------------ Partial truth~the seeds of wisdom~can be found in many places...The seeds of wisdom are contained in all scriptures ever written… especially in art, music, and poetry and, above all, in Nature. Linda Goodman IP: Logged
Randall Webmaster Posts: 86815 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009	posted August 22, 2017 03:56 PM You threw the stone implying that I identify with Nazis. Not cool. IP: Logged
Catalina Knowflake Posts: 5201 From: shamballa Registered: Aug 2013	posted August 22, 2017 03:58 PM As my post points out "one loon" is not necessarily what he was IP: Logged
teasel Knowflake Posts: 10902 From: Registered: Apr 2009	posted August 22, 2017 04:01 PM quote: Originally posted by Randall: One loon does not a war make. We have declared war on ISIS. Unfortunately, it does when that loon is in the White House (as he is now). IP: Logged
Bluejay Knowflake Posts: 806 From: Registered: Jun 2013	posted August 22, 2017 10:48 PM Holy Sh:t!!!! Someone let Trump off his leash. He is in full on raving lunatic mode in Phoenix, and obsessing over Charlottesville and the aftermath. He just can't help himself. His own words are what get him in trouble. IP: Logged
Randall Webmaster Posts: 86815 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009	posted August 22, 2017 11:36 PM Greatest speech of his EVER! I bet the media hated that, I can tell you! IP: Logged
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 10546 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009	posted August 23, 2017 12:35 AM quote: Originally posted by Randall: Greatest speech of his EVER! I bet the media hated that, I can tell you! I bet the media hated that, I can tell you! Great speech, most of it off teleprompter...AND President Trump royally ripped the dishonest press. I can't think of anyone more deserving of getting ripped by the President. IP: Logged
Catalina Knowflake Posts: 5201 From: shamballa Registered: Aug 2013	posted August 23, 2017 02:26 AM I was working but i heard some people who were watching him on CNN laughing and scratching their heads when he said CNN shut off their cameras. Sometimes its "His own words" that are twisted 😂 Guess you would have had to be watching CNN to catch that bit of fake news, eh? IP: Logged
Randall Webmaster Posts: 86815 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009	posted August 23, 2017 03:33 AM CNN watchers don't have a sense of humor. But Trump supporters get it. IP: Logged
Catalina Knowflake Posts: 5201 From: shamballa Registered: Aug 2013	posted August 23, 2017 10:48 AM You reckon? Let us in on it then.. what exactly is the "in joke" that only the enlightened would get? And how come they don't get the joke everyone else sees? So.. what was so great about his speech? IP: Logged
Randall Webmaster Posts: 86815 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009	posted August 23, 2017 11:45 AM It was vintage Trump all the way. For those who love President Trump, no further explanation is necessary. For the never Trumpers, no explanation will do. IP: Logged

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