posted September 26, 2017 03:57 PM            

The players may be working but their bosses are not complaining about it. In fact they are joining in. Because the kneeling doesnt interfere with anything.. those who choose to stand can stand.

Kneeling, once again, is the ultimate sign of RESPECT.. why people kneel in church.

posted September 26, 2017 04:39 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
No one is being forced to stand.

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posted September 26, 2017 06:10 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
That's his opinion. Free speech.

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posted September 26, 2017 06:26 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Randall:
[b]That's his opinion. Free speech.

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Dictatorship for certain!!!
Bullying for certain
Foolish move for certain.

The fool could have stopped this in it`s tracks but chose to be divisive over it. Go team Trump

posted September 26, 2017 07:00 PM            

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Originally posted by kewf1988:
How is what these players did "anarchy"? Peaceful protest is not anarchy.

A lot of the players who protested were black, and it's common knowledge that black (and Latino) neighborhoods tend to be very low income. A lot of these black athletes came from those neighborhoods, and know what their communities go through more than any of us do. Yes, they got wealthy, but that doesn't mean that they should forget about their upbringings. They likely still have friends and relatives that are still living in the "hood". And while these minority neighborhoods are starting to get rebuilt (mainly in the urban cores as it isn't as prevalent in the lower income suburbs, at least in southern California), they're for a new demographic (hipsters) rather than the existing demographic, also known as gentrification. Rather than helping them improve their status, they push them out. This spreads the problem out to the rural areas, as the gangs that were in West LA before gentrification are still there, and the gangs that are in Northeast LA, which is currently gentrifying, will likely still be there in 10 years.

I live in an area that's mainly Latino, many of whom are immigrants (not dangerous though), and there is a fear of Trump amongst them too, and with stuff like his divisive campaign, Charlottesville, and now this, it's pretty justified. Nobody should be scared of their President. A nation that discourages freedom of speech, regardless of viewpoint, is not free. Bush, while destroying the economy and taking the country to war over oil, NEVER stooped to the lows Trump has, less than a year into his presidency! Calling the citizens who pay taxes to you a cuss word is unacceptable no matter which way you look at it.

Astrologically, Neptune is in Pisces, Pluto is in Capricorn, and Uranus is shifting from Aries (which would be the election protests) to Taurus, which these protests are more in line with. Uranus is the planet of rebellion, and expect more protests like this when Uranus settles into Taurus for good. With Pluto going into Aquarius in a little over five years, the beginning of the Aquarian Age is not that far away, and the elites are feeling the heat, as you cannot stop an astrological transit from making its mark. People want their governments to be compassionate (Pisces) and not divisive and in the interests of the wealthiest people (Capricorn). Why is that bad? The current "capitalist" (the closest system to the current economic system is fascism because of the influence the wealthy have, though it's more of a mix of capitalism, socialism, and fascism) system has only made the rich richer and the poor poorer, while destroying the middle class.

People are waking up to the reality of our system that we've been under every day, and since this is the result of astrological transits, it cannot be stopped.

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Thank you for a long and considered post.

It did not deserve a one liner from the site owner.

posted September 26, 2017 08:27 PM            

Many of these players come from poverty, and they rose from nothing to prominence. To protest the flag of the country that gave them those opportunities is disrespect to those who gave limbs and lives for their freedom.

posted September 26, 2017 09:43 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
President Trump never praised Nazis. And you know that. At this point, you are just lying. There were many people there protesting the sterilizing of history by removing of a statue. Those were not Nazis. They were not with the Nazis, but they were attacked by ANTIFA.

Many of these players come from poverty, and they rose from nothing to prominence. To protest the flag of the country that gave them those opportunities is disrespect to those who gave limbs and lives for their freedom.

When you live in fake news land, of course you haven't a clue about the aid in PR.

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Calling a member a liar borders attacking them

posted September 26, 2017 10:06 PM            

There's one thing for sure, I'm really glad I live in the United States instead of North Korea. You don't have a choice there. We do have a choice in the u.s. difference is you don't get your body tortured and left for dead like that poor college student otto. We are a divided country. And guess what? Being divided is what is making us weak. And when we do go to war, and we will, no one in the u.s. is going to care about equality. It will be every man for himself. Which is why each and everyone of us should start at the core. Our mothers, spouses, our kids, our dearest friends. And show love. Because that will be what will gets us through. Hate and greed will cause looting, death and destruction. And we will fail because of that. You can't control the actions of someone who is shooting up a bank just like you can't control a cop for abusing their power. If you want to make a difference, start with your circle and make it strong based on love. Problem is, not everyone is capable of that and would rather spend their time and energy reposting bs news stories to elated their ego. Or trying to prove their point that we have it so bad in the u.s. it is irrelevant at this point and you are all being played.

And as the great mother Teresa once said, be for something, not against. She had it right folks and we are so blind. Keep on spewing **** back and forth at one another like you are the ultimate authority and see how much that really matters when all hell breaks loose. And this particular board is full of that back and forth juvenile crap.

Promote love. Promote understanding. No one will ever win with two totally opposing viewpoints. We should be stronger than ever right now but we are so vulnerable. Neither side is "winning". How about we go back and reflect on our own actions instead of focusing our energy on how someone else is handling a situation and criticize them or praise them? What did YOU do today to educate your loved ones about how to spread peace?

I was once asked why I don't participate in anti-war demonstrations. I said that I will never do that, but as soon as you have a pro-peace rally, I'll be there.
Mother Teresa

posted September 26, 2017 10:09 PM            

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Originally posted by juniperb:
Dictatorship for certain!!!
Bullying for certain
Foolish move for certain.

The fool could have stopped this in it`s tracks but chose to be divisive over it. Go team Trump

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Wrong on all counts.

posted September 27, 2017 08:35 AM            

NFL players DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO PROTEST DURING THE PLAYING OF THE NATIONAL ANTHEM

Robert Barnes: No, NFL Players Do Not Have a Right to Kneel or Boycott American Anthem
Robert Barnes
26 Sep 2017

Like the Democratic Party, the NFL has forgot who put them there. The NFL is in the entertainment business, and the heart of its fan base is Trump country. It ain’t CNN.

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Fourth, the league specifically articulates restrictions on how players must handle the national anthem. The game-operations manual — not the rules manual — dictates how NFL games should be run, including how players must handle the anthem. The NFL’s own website threatens “penalties for noncompliance” with the game operations manual.” The manual requires that “all players must be on the sideline for the National Anthem.” It further requires the players “stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand, and refrain from talking” during the playing of the anthem. The manual recognized the league will “be judged by the public in this area of respect for the flag and our country” and it is thusly the duties of the owner to have this “pointed our to players and coaches.” The sanctions for non-compliance include “fines, suspensions, and/or the forfeiture of draft choices.”

Trump is right: the league’s own rules require respect for the anthem and flag under which many Americans returned in caskets. The fact the NFL chose to ignore its own rules, its own contracts, and its own collective bargaining agreement is a sign it doesn’t consider disrespect for the flag to be “conduct detrimental” to the “public reputation” of the league. That’s what happens when you get your news from CNN."
http://www.breitbart.com/sports/2017/09/26/robert-barnes-no-nf l-players-not-right-kneel-boycott-american-anthem/

posted September 27, 2017 10:00 AM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
President Trump never praised Nazis. And you know that. At this point, you are just lying. There were many people there protesting the sterilizing of history by removing of a statue. Those were not Nazis. They were not with the Nazis, but they were attacked by ANTIFA.

Many of these players come from poverty, and they rose from nothing to prominence. To protest the flag of the country that gave them those opportunities is disrespect to those who gave limbs and lives for their freedom.

When you live in fake news land, of course you haven't a clue about the aid in PR.

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posted September 27, 2017 10:03 AM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Not if it's a factual statement. She knows there were people there who were protesting the removal of the statue who were NOT Nazis. I have told her repeatedly. To continue saying an untruth that one knows is untrue is to lie.

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All of those people who were marching with torches, and chanting "blood and soil" and "Jews will not replace us"? Sure sound like Nazis to me.

posted September 27, 2017 10:05 AM            

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Originally posted by juniperb:
Dictatorship for certain!!!
Bullying for certain
Foolish move for certain.

The fool could have stopped this in it`s tracks but chose to be divisive over it. Go team Trump

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Yep. Last night, I heard about a special Senate race happening in Alabama, that he had backed the one that ended up losing. I guess that's partly why he was down there, rallying his fans.

Some say the loss shows how much support he no longer has from the public, but it's not a good thing: Bannon's guy won.

posted September 27, 2017 10:08 AM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
There's plenty that President Trump actually does that liberals hate without making sh*t up to lie about.

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I didn't make anything up. I hate it when people make things up. I've had it done TO me, more than once.

posted September 27, 2017 10:14 AM            

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Originally posted by llewsacm:
Here's the bottom line. Hate gets us nowhere. Whether you represent a group of people who rally behind hatred towards a group because of the color of their skin, or a group for what they do for a profession (cops or nfl or whatever!) or how much money they have or don't have. All this BS about how much nfl players make. That's not the point. They can protest in our free country, but there are consequences. How about that dude at Google who got booted? Consequences. His company didn't want that controversial publicity. I would imagine that we will see some fallout from this, and also for hatred to reveal itself on many levels.

There's one thing for sure, I'm really glad I live in the United States instead of North Korea. You don't have a choice there. We do have a choice in the u.s. difference is you don't get your body tortured and left for dead like that poor college student otto. We are a divided country. And guess what? Being divided is what is making us weak. And when we do go to war, and we will, no one in the u.s. is going to care about equality. It will be every man for himself. Which is why each and everyone of us should start at the core. Our mothers, spouses, our kids, our dearest friends. And show love. Because that will be what will gets us through. Hate and greed will cause looting, death and destruction. And we will fail because of that. You can't control the actions of someone who is shooting up a bank just like you can't control a cop for abusing their power. If you want to make a difference, start with your circle and make it strong based on love. Problem is, not everyone is capable of that and would rather spend their time and energy reposting bs news stories to elated their ego. Or trying to prove their point that we have it so bad in the u.s. it is irrelevant at this point and you are all being played.

And as the great mother Teresa once said, be for something, not against. She had it right folks and we are so blind. Keep on spewing **** back and forth at one another like you are the ultimate authority and see how much that really matters when all hell breaks loose. And this particular board is full of that back and forth juvenile crap.

Promote love. Promote understanding. No one will ever win with two totally opposing viewpoints. We should be stronger than ever right now but we are so vulnerable. Neither side is "winning". How about we go back and reflect on our own actions instead of focusing our energy on how someone else is handling a situation and criticize them or praise them? What did YOU do today to educate your loved ones about how to spread peace?

I was once asked why I don't participate in anti-war demonstrations. I said that I will never do that, but as soon as you have a pro-peace rally, I'll be there.
Mother Teresa

I'm not checking back on this thread because I am spending time on my circle. Carry on and continue being played should you choose to keep on feeding your egos. Peace.

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Thank you for taking the time to judge all of us.

posted September 27, 2017 02:22 PM            

On the other hand, cloaking ones ego in spiritual superiority ... pot kettle ..

It would be nice if we could share contrasting views without having to wind up the macho football game attitude. Its unlikely to happen.

Personally i find myself wondering why i come here when it's almost impossible to have a conversation and to attempt to start one is met with verbal pummeling..

posted September 27, 2017 02:36 PM            

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Originally posted by jwhop:
President Trump is right! Here!! Read the rules about showing respect for the National Anthem...straight from the printed rules...included in NFL player contracts, the language of which comes straight from the NFL rules for player conduct!

NFL players [b]DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO PROTEST DURING THE PLAYING OF THE NATIONAL ANTHEM

Robert Barnes: No, NFL Players Do Not Have a Right to Kneel or Boycott American Anthem
Robert Barnes
26 Sep 2017

Like the Democratic Party, the NFL has forgot who put them there. The NFL is in the entertainment business, and the heart of its fan base is Trump country. It ain’t CNN.

............"
Fourth, the league specifically articulates restrictions on how players must handle the national anthem. The game-operations manual — not the rules manual — dictates how NFL games should be run, including how players must handle the anthem. The NFL’s own website threatens “penalties for noncompliance” with the game operations manual.” The manual requires that “all players must be on the sideline for the National Anthem.” It further requires the players “stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand, and refrain from talking” during the playing of the anthem. The manual recognized the league will “be judged by the public in this area of respect for the flag and our country” and it is thusly the duties of the owner to have this “pointed our to players and coaches.” The sanctions for non-compliance include “fines, suspensions, and/or the forfeiture of draft choices.”

Trump is right: the league’s own rules require respect for the anthem and flag under which many Americans returned in caskets. The fact the NFL chose to ignore its own rules, its own contracts, and its own collective bargaining agreement is a sign it doesn’t consider disrespect for the flag to be “conduct detrimental” to the “public reputation” of the league. That’s what happens when you get your news from CNN."
http://www.breitbart.com/sports/2017/09/26/robert-barnes-no-nf l-players-not-right-kneel-boycott-american-anthem/

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