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Catalina
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posted September 25, 2017 07:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We're supposed to be more upset about kneeling sports players and chronically heckling leaders of tiny countries. But Puert Rico is a hot mess and no tweets or press are squawking about it
http://m.dailykos.com/stories/2017/9/24/1 701125/-3-5-million-Americans-face-disease-death-in-Puerto-Rico-What-the-hell-is-Trump-doing

I post this not for the hectoring from Kos but the quotes and facts included. Puerto Rico is not important in Presidential elections.. but in their primary voted for Rubio.

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posted September 25, 2017 07:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Unlike leftists who don't have enough brain cells to chew gum and blink at the same time, Trump is a multitasker who can juggle lots of balls and keep them all in the air.

Something else, leftists are geography challenged, not realizing that relief supplies and equipment have to be airlifted or shipped into Puerto Rico instead of trucked...like into Texas and Florida.

So, spare us all the bullshiiite that the President is spending all his time tweeting about brain dead football players disrespecting America, our flag and National Anthem.

About 70% of Americans agree with the President that people..athletes included...should stand for the National Anthem. It's only in leftist covens that disrespecting America is high five material.

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posted September 25, 2017 07:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are we short of airplanes? What a load of tripe.

I highly doubt that figure of 70% and its still a distracting fuss about nothing. If people were so outraged let them use the "free market" to put their point across. They dint need the President whipping it up while, according to reports, aid to PR is not happening. Hes a demagogue flaunting his podium.

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posted September 25, 2017 07:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"according to reports, aid to PR is not happening."

According to whose reports? Real news or the Fake News sources leftists love?

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posted September 26, 2017 03:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
According to DT's OWN WORDS the big bad ocean is the reason for delays.. because we don't know how to fly there? Because it's light years away? Because airlifts are such brand new tactics? BS.

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posted September 26, 2017 04:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Its a 3 hr flight. Walking on water not required. Airlifts are commonplace military maneuvers. Water, food, and helping hands at the very least.

Rumor has it that a privatization push will extend recovery time until people cave.

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posted September 26, 2017 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
President Trump is right. There are no roads to an island. Generators require fuel. Over 10,000 FEMA and DOD workers are there. And 16 ships are delivering supplies to remote areas of the island with 10 more on the way bringing equipment for emergency power restoration. The huge debt, crumbling infrastructure, and unstable power grid made things much worse. President Trump released one billion in aid and authorized 100% of the clean-up efforts to be paid by the US with reimbursements for 180 days. Pallets of food, water, and supplies are being delivered HOURLY with air drops. They have 4 million meals and 6 million liters of water waiting to be delivered due to the logistics. The USS Comfort is arriving tomorrow. President Trump is visiting on Tuesday. The idiot media outlets criticize President Trump for "doing nothing" while during a press conference yesterday they asked not a single question about PR till 2/3 of the way in!

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posted September 26, 2017 07:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was quoting DT.. you know, his own words. Not sure where you got your figures from but appatently the Comfort has only just had its sailing orders...

But the link won't post. I'll try again later

Edit..here:
http://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2017/09/26/hospital-ship-comfort-heading-to-puerto-rico/

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posted September 26, 2017 08:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You wouldn't know, because you live in a CNN fantasy bubble.

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posted September 26, 2017 10:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Who are you talking too? I don't watch CNN and i don't live in a bubble. I asked you where you got your figures.

I notice CNN is just fine when they say something you are predisposed to agree with. In other words "fake" is interchangeable with "disagreeable" 😂

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posted September 26, 2017 10:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, I post CNN links on purpose for the left here.

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posted September 26, 2017 11:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And you got your figures..where?

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posted September 27, 2017 12:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Google it. It's not a big secret.

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posted September 27, 2017 08:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Catalina:
Are we short of airplanes? What a load of tripe.

I highly doubt that figure of 70% and its still a distracting fuss about nothing. If people were so outraged let them use the "free market" to put their point across. They dint need the President whipping it up while, according to reports, aid to PR is not happening. Hes a demagogue flaunting his podium.


I suppose you haven't seen pictures of the devastation on PR....including pictures of the airport there. There's debris everywhere AND the air traffic control system was destroyed. So yeah, the US has airplanes to transport supplies to PR...but, there has to be a place to land those planes. Further, all those relief supplies have to come from..somewhere and be delivered..by trucks, to airports and docks in the United States mainland...BEFORE they can flown or shipped to PR.

Just something else for leftists to p!ss, moan and whine about.

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posted September 27, 2017 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"I suppose" you haven't heard that other people are managing to access the island to help despite the logistic difficulties of delivering without trucks and "roads to an island"
http://m.dailykos.com/stories/2017/9/27/1702095/-Trump-Air-sits-idle-as-billionaires-and-celebrities-lend-private-planes-for-Puerto-Rico-relief?

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posted September 27, 2017 02:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The logistics of delivering the supplies when they get there is a huge challenge.

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posted September 27, 2017 03:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Catalina:
"I suppose" you haven't heard that other people are managing to access the island to help despite the logistic difficulties of delivering without trucks and "roads to an island"
http://m.dailykos.com/stories/ 2017/9/27/1702095/-Trump-Air-sits-idle-as-billionaires-and-celebrities-lend-private-planes-for-Puerto-Rico-relief?

I suppose you don't understand those who are there from private groups are not trying to feed and clothe 3.5 million people so they don't have the logistics problems US Federal agencies have. Nor are they trying to restore electricity to the whole island or gasoline to the whole island. Lots of ships and planes involved in getting that all done and lots of time collecting, loading and transporting all that material.

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posted September 27, 2017 04:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted September 27, 2017 04:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The logistics of delivering by truck in flooded areas are not that much easier when you consider the places the military are used to delivering to.

First and foremost people need food and water to sustain them while the rest is being tended to. And doctors

As to the Comfort, she is not going to be arriving for a few days yet. Apparently it took Clinton suggesting it for the penny to drop
http://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2017/09/26/hospital-sh ip-comfort-heading-to-puerto-rico/

So i don't know where Randall got his detailed rundown of activity and deliveries but someone flubbed it

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posted September 27, 2017 05:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And supplies are sitting around because.. the jones act. Tough decosion time.. human lives or shipping interests?
http://verifiedpolitics.com/trump-just-admitted-real-reason-hes-not-taking-action-help-puerto-rico/

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posted September 27, 2017 05:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Catalina:
The logistics of delivering by truck in flooded areas are not that much easier when you consider the places the military are used to delivering to.

First and foremost people need food and water to sustain them while the rest is being tended to. And doctors

As to the Comfort, she is not going to be arriving for a few days yet. Apparently it took Clinton suggesting it for the penny to drop
http://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2017/09/26/hospital-sh ip-comfort-heading-to-puerto-rico/

So i don't know where Randall got his detailed rundown of activity and deliveries but someone flubbed it


No one "flubbed" anything. Grow up!

As for Clinton dropping a dime to make suggestions, forget it. Trump thinks circles around Hillary The Corrupt.

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posted September 27, 2017 08:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It waa stated that the Comfort would be arriving today. This is not so. Someone flubbed the info and i would suggest you "grow up" and stop trying to bury facts with unnecessary bravado .. but that would be pointless wouldn't it?

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posted September 28, 2017 12:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And now, the real story about aid and relief to the 3.4 million people in Puerto Rico.

Notice this information comes from the Governor of Puerto Rico and not from the lying leftist lunatics at CNN or the leftist cadres of other lunatic leftist media sites.

Nolte: CNN Caught Using Fake News to Turn Puerto Rico into Trump’s ‘Katrina’
John Nolte
27 Sep 2017


So what is the actual situation on the ground on the island of Puerto Rico? Obviously, there is no small amount of devastation thanks to Hurricane Maria, which did incalculable damage earlier this month. Which brings us to the next question… What has the federal government’s response been to this crisis? More specifically, what has President Trump’s response been?
Well, according to Puerto Rico’s own governor, Ricardo Rosselló, he is quite satisfied and was on PBS less than 48 hours ago praising Trump’s attention and response to the crisis:

PBS’S OHN YANG: Governor, are you getting all the aid you need or getting it fast enough from the states?

GOV. RICARDO ROSSELLO: First of all, we are very grateful for the administration. They have responded quickly.

The president has been very attentive to the situation, personally calling me several times. FEMA and the FEMA director have been here in Puerto Rico twice. As a matter of fact, they were here with us today, making sure that all the resources in FEMA were working in conjunction with the central government.

We have been working together. We have been getting results. The magnitude of this catastrophe is enormous. This is going to take a lot of help, a lot of collaboration. So, my call is to congressmen and congresswomen to take action quickly and conclusively with an aid package for Puerto Rico.

Two days prior to that, the Associated Press reported on more praise and appreciation from Puerto Rico’s governor. What especially stands out is Rosselló’s praise for the administration’s pro-active pre-planning, and the island’s Resident Commission informing us that Puerto Rico has never received this kind of coordination before:

Rosselló and other officials praised the federal government for planning its response in detail before the storm hit, a contrast with what Puerto Rico has long seen as the neglect of 3.4 million Americans living in a territory without a vote in Congress or the electoral college.

“This is the first time we get this type of federal coordination,” said Resident Commission Jenniffer Gonzalez, Puerto Rico’s non-voting representative in Washington.

Pajamas Media has so much more, including a breakdown of the massive amount of supplies and resources already delivered.

Lest you think I am cherry-picking old news, Rosselló appeared just this morning on “The View,” and when asked directly about President Trump’s claim that the government is doing a “great job,” Rosselló again had only praise for Trump and for the relief efforts thus far, which he described as “very good” and “very effective.”

Moreover, Rosselló said that he has just requested additional resources to aid with some new logistical problems and those requests were immediately honored.

Here is the full video. Partial transcript below (emphasis added):

The president has been in contact with me almost on a daily basis. So he is aware of the devastation, and I thank him for issuing [pre-storm] emergency declarations … verbally, as the storm was hitting Puerto Rico. He has also given instructions to FEMA and other federal agencies to help Puerto Rico. So that effort is ongoing and it’s very good and it’s very effective. However, there are logistical threats we are facing … The logistical transportation of all the help we are receiving is becoming a kind of bottleneck. What we really need are some human resources, which we’ve requested and FEMA has established the corps of engineers and Special Forces from the DOD [Department of Defense] that are going to be coming to Puerto Rico so they can help…

The governor’s only apparent governmental concern was with a special aid package from Congress, which he obviously wants to see passed quickly.

So, in the face of all these inconvenient facts for a last-place, leftwing cable news network like CNN, what is left for them to do other than to fire off this kind of fake news:

CNN continues to enshrine its place forever as America’s laughingstock.
http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2017/09/27/cnn-caught-using-fake-news-turn-puerto-rico-trumps-katrina/

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Puerto Rico owes Wall St over 70 Billion.

D Day- http://theintercept.com/2017/09/27/puerto-ric an-debt-holders-respond-to-catastrophic-hurricane-by-offering-puerto-rico-more-debt/

asked some of the debt holders what they planned to do to help and this is what they said. It's not pretty.

Think about how many times Wall Street forgave Trump's business failures when he went bankrupt over and over and over again as you read this:

quote:
PUERTO RICO, FACING absolute devastation after Hurricane Maria barreled through last week, desperately needs immediate funding to restore critical infrastructure, particularly its hobbled electric grid. The entire island — home to over 3.5 million American citizens, roughly equivalent to the state of Connecticut — lost power, and satellite imagery shows how little electricity has come back. This affects not only electricity and telecommunications service but access to clean water, as many pumping stations run on the same grid.

A group of bondholders, who own a portion of Puerto Rico’s massive $72 billion debt, has proposed what they are calling relief — but in the form of a loan. So they’re offering a territory mired in debt the chance to take on more debt.

The announcement came after The Intercept spent two days reaching out to 51 of Puerto Rico’s known creditors, asking them if they would support a moratorium or cancellation of debt payments for the island, given the humanitarian crisis. Prior to this announcement, only three of the 51 creditors had so much as donated relief funds to charity or offered sympathy for island residents, all of them banks who actually have to face consumers, and so are a bit more adept at handling public relations. No creditor had supported debt relief.

Of the 51 creditors contacted by The Intercept, only Citibank, Goldman Sachs, and Scotiabank have pledged no-strings-attached money for Puerto Rico and other Caribbean islands, in the form of donations to relief organizations totaling $1.25 million. Citi has also waived certain fees for citizens within disaster zones.

Puerto Rico’s other creditors contacted by The Intercept would not say whether donations were made by their firms or their top executives, which include some of the richest people on earth. Holders of Puerto Rican debt include John Paulson, who got rich betting against the housing market during the financial crash; Jeffrey Gundlach of DoubleLine Capital, who in 2015 called Puerto Rican debt his “best idea” for investors; and Marc Lasry of Avenue Capital Group and co-owner of the Milwaukee Bucks NBA team.


Trump had a little press conference and barely talked about Puerto Rico. He did mention that he wouldn't be lifting he Jones Act to allow foreign ships to help with the effort as he did with Hurricane Harvey and Hurricane Irma. He explained that shipping interests didn't want it so there's that.

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posted September 28, 2017 10:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wrong. He did lift it.

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