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pire Knowflake Posts: 2657 From: France Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 02, 2017 02:06 PM
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mirage29 Knowflake Posts: 8453 From: us Registered: May 2012
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posted October 02, 2017 07:28 PM
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Bluejay Knowflake Posts: 806 From: Registered: Jun 2013
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posted October 03, 2017 03:59 AM
My heart breaks over and over. My fellow Americans are being slaughtered for sport. The Republicans don't want to have this conversation, even after the children of Sandy Hook were murdered. Children murdered!!!! And the band played on!!!I agree with our 2nd Amendment right to protect ourselves with guns, but this is getting so out of control!! This is not protection, this is predation!!! Assault riffles that can shoot hundreds of people in a matter of minutes!?!?!?!?!?! How many people must die in vain before the average American citizen realizes the 2nd Amendment is not a free for all right to arm themselves with deadly weapons? There is a huge difference between a handgun and a Military style assault weapon. So far what has been reported is that this latest murderer had all "legal" weapons. He killed 59 people and injured 527 people!!!! One man and his "legal" arsenal of guns. What the serious f*ck? He's white, but if he was brown or black this would be a whole different story. No cries of a domestic terrorist? No cries for changes in law? Nope, because our 2nd Amendment somehow dominates our 1st Amendment. SHAME, SHAME, SHAME!!!!!!!! IP: Logged |
iQ Moderator Posts: 5184 From: Lyra Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 03, 2017 05:13 AM
The most deadly Terrorist Organization in the World right now is the NRA. Since 1968, 15 million American Citizens have been killed inside USA by American Firearms. 99.99% LEGAL Weapons. Sanctioned by NRA. In comparison, less than 14 million Americans have perished in all the wars inside and outside of USA, including WW1 and WW2. Now the NRA Terrorists want Silencers and Armor-Piercing. That way, the next White "Lone Wolf" "Distraught" non-Son-of-a-bi*ch can snap and finish 500 while wounding 5000 in some stadium or concert or resort or political rally. The 2nd Amendment is a right to bear arms by SANE Americans in a transparent (open carry) way to defend against Tyranny. Ordinary Pistols are more than sufficient. Anything excess is just for MK-Ultra Sleepers to add to the American Bodycount. And so many unanswered questions: 1. Why were exits blocked? 2. Why 10 rifles carried by an old man? 3. How did a 64 year old sustain firing for 15+ minutes? 4. He is a millionaire, enjoys life, gambling etc. Whats the warped motive? 5. How did the Hotel allow so many rifles inside undetected? Even third World India has compulsory scan checking of every vehicle and luggage for every hotel above 2 stars. More than one Terrorist could have been involved. There is a sustained effort to create so much hatred between Left Wing and Right, various Media Outlets, Muslims and Christians, Blacks and Whites, Hispanics and Anglo-Saxons. This is a Master Plan by very evil Minds to create a bloody Civil War and transform the entire USA into a shriveled corpse of a Nation. The GOP, the Democrats or any Politician is practically helpless or a shill. People of all polarities have to march by the million to stop NRA, Bad Cops, CIA Psyops and Vested Interests. Every American has to find the Martin Luther King within before it is too late. Question everyone from all parties. Spare nobody the public humiliation if they slack in serving American Citizens in any way. Outrage on Social Media is not enough, block the streets with peaceful marches else the System will keep killing Americans week after week after week. ------------------ Astrology Articles New Services and short readings IP: Logged |
juniperb Moderator Posts: 10774 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 03, 2017 09:39 AM
If this horiffic and traumatic mass murder doesn`t wound the psyche of citizens everywhere, what will. My heart breaks for the grieving families loss`s and for the ones who will suffer ptsd for the rest of their lives. This proves again the need for assault rifles to be illegal and condemed. Their sole purpose is to kill as many as fast as possable. They do not belong in the hands of citizens, period. These modern guns were not a weapon our forefathers forsaw when they drafted the Amendment. Protect our gun rights while making assault automatic rifles military only. ------------------ Partial truth~the seeds of wisdom~can be found in many places...The seeds of wisdom are contained in all scriptures ever written… especially in art, music, and poetry and, above all, in Nature.
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juniperb Moderator Posts: 10774 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 03, 2017 09:53 AM
quote: 2. Why 10 rifles carried by an old man? 3. How did a 64 year old sustain firing for 15+ minutes?
IQ, don`t let age fool you. 64 is neither old or weak. The capabilities of a deranged man/women are beyond what we can do in good sense. I know 70 old men who can throw 60 lb bales of hay into an upper loft why many millenial can`t toss one 10 feet. quote: 4. He is a millionaire, enjoys life, gambling etc. Whats the warped motive?
A deranged mind does not require a logical motive. An addicted gambler has troubles already. quote: 5. How did the Hotel allow so many rifles inside undetected? Even third World India has compulsory scan checking of every vehicle and luggage for every hotel above 2 stars.
This is my burning question. How? What safety measures failed? I think when the security vids are downloaded, we will have a few answers. Nevada has the weakest gun control laws in the U.S. Wake up Nevada and modify your gun laws!! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_Nevada ------------------ Partial truth~the seeds of wisdom~can be found in many places...The seeds of wisdom are contained in all scriptures ever written… especially in art, music, and poetry and, above all, in Nature.
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jwhop Knowflake Posts: 10450 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 03, 2017 11:39 AM
Bet there wasn't a person being shot at in Las Vegas who didn't wish they had a gun to fire back at that sniper AND...many have already said so.As for those who say they respect the 2nd Amendment Right to keep and bear arms...BUT who talk out of both sides of their mouths and secretly want to restrict the rights of law abiding citizens to do so. UP YOURS. Always turn a tragedy into a political issue. That's the leftist lunatic democrat way. They have strict gun control laws in Cuba, GO THERE IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 10841 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 03, 2017 12:22 PM
quote: Originally posted by jwhop: Bet there wasn't a person being shot at in Las Vegas who didn't wish they had a gun to fire back at that sniper AND...many have already said so.As for those who say they respect the 2nd Amendment Right to keep and bear arms...BUT who talk out of both sides of their mouths and secretly want to restrict the rights of law abiding citizens to do so. [b]UP YOURS. Always turn a tragedy into a political issue. That's the leftist lunatic democrat way. They have strict gun control laws in Cuba, GO THERE[/B]
Oh, take it to a different thread. For goodness sake. I knew someone was going to say it. He mowed people down with assault weapons, that he was able to buy because of US gun laws!
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 86123 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 03, 2017 12:59 PM
Guns don't kill people.IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 10841 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 03, 2017 01:05 PM
quote: Originally posted by Randall: Guns don't kill people.
They do, actually. I'm starting a separate thread. IP: Logged |
juniperb Moderator Posts: 10774 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 03, 2017 01:11 PM
Please start another thread for name calling and venom ------------------ Partial truth~the seeds of wisdom~can be found in many places...The seeds of wisdom are contained in all scriptures ever written… especially in art, music, and poetry and, above all, in Nature.
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iQ Moderator Posts: 5184 From: Lyra Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 03, 2017 01:13 PM
JWHop, Hugs to you Man. I know you are feeling as terrible as any of us at this senseless murder of innocent youth just having a good time. I know you cannot fathom or process why a normal American can do this to fellow Americans. I too wanted to be there and shoot that sniper. But cops were there too. So many extra cops responded. But how could anyone shoot 400 meters away under a flurry of automatic bullets? If it were possible, it would have been done. But it was not done.The only solution is to make semi-automatic and automatic weapons illegal for citizens. Pistols are enough to protect against burglars. US Army is enough to protect against foreign invasions. Pistols can shoot down another mad man with a pistol too. Ban all kinds of assault rifles right away. Raise your voice against NRA. The kids who died were supposed to be part of America's Future, now they are not. 10000 would have suffered PTSD. They are psychologically finished for life. Millions more would be scared of assembling anywhere. They will see a potential spray of bullets everywhere and will never feel safe. NRA will be the death of America if they are not stopped now. You mention Cuba, why do you fail to mention Australia, New Zealand, Japan, Dubai, Luxemborg, Germany, Sweden, Czech, Denmark, Slovakia,Argentina,UK [after Dunblane] and even Canada where there have been tighter Laws and none of the madness that is repeated in USA? There is a way to balance 2nd Amendment along with ban on assault weapons. Push for it and make it happen. Now. ------------------ Astrology Articles New Services and short readings IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 10841 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 03, 2017 01:14 PM
quote: Originally posted by jwhop: Bet there wasn't a person being shot at in Las Vegas who didn't wish they had a gun to fire back at that sniper AND...many have already said so.As for those who say they respect the 2nd Amendment Right to keep and bear arms...BUT who talk out of both sides of their mouths and secretly want to restrict the rights of law abiding citizens to do so. [b]UP YOURS. Always turn a tragedy into a political issue. That's the leftist lunatic democrat way. They have strict gun control laws in Cuba, GO THERE[/B]
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Catalina Knowflake Posts: 5119 From: shamballa Registered: Aug 2013
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posted October 03, 2017 03:12 PM
There were people there with guns. Absolutely useless!... as is your complaint that anyone in America should be able to stockpile automatic rifles. "Guns don't kill people" Alternative facts again? How many dead would there be if this guy had even a dozen machetes?
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Node Knowflake Posts: 2967 From: 2,015 mi East of Truth or Consequences NM Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 03, 2017 03:16 PM
quote: 2. Why 10 rifles carried by an old man? 3. How did a 64 year old sustain firing for 15+ minutes? IQ, don`t let age fool you. 64 is neither old or weak. The capabilities of a deranged man/women are beyond what we can do in good sense. I know 70 old men who can throw 60 lb bales of hay into an upper loft why many millenial can`t toss one 10 feet. quote: 4. He is a millionaire, enjoys life, gambling etc. Whats the warped motive? A deranged mind does not require a logical motive. An addicted gambler has troubles already. quote: 5. How did the Hotel allow so many rifles inside undetected? Even third World India has compulsory scan checking of every vehicle and luggage for every hotel above 2 stars. This is my burning question. How? What safety measures failed? I think when the security vids are downloaded, we will have a few answers. Nevada has the weakest gun control laws in the U.S. Wake up Nevada and modify your gun laws!! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_Nevada ------------------ Partial truth~the seeds of wisdom~can be found in many places...The seeds of wisdom are contained in all scriptures ever written… especially in art, music, and poetry and, above all, in Nature. Linda Goodman With many great posts, this might be your best. Thanks for being you Juni.
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jwhop Knowflake Posts: 10450 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 03, 2017 04:19 PM
"He mowed people down with assault weapons, that he was able to buy because of US gun laws!You wouldn't know an assault weapon if someone stuffed one up your posterior. An AR-15 is not an assault weapon. An M-16 IS an assault weapon. No semi-automatic weapon is an assault weapon in spite of terminally stupid beliefs. How many M-16s were found in the hotel? IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 10841 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 03, 2017 04:26 PM
quote: Originally posted by jwhop: "He mowed people down with [b]assault weapons, that he was able to buy because of US gun laws!You wouldn't know an assault weapon if someone stuffed one up your posterior. An AR-15 is not an assault weapon. An M-16 IS an assault weapon. No semi-automatic weapon is an assault weapon in spite of terminally stupid beliefs. How many M-16s were found in the hotel? [/B]
Only the classiest responses from you. Take it yo the other thread. IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 10450 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 03, 2017 11:25 PM
"Only the classiest responses from you. Take it yo the other thread."Hmmm, do I sense anger that you can't refute what was said? Guns are one of the most studied objects in society so you could have easily armed yourself with facts before popping off. Then, you could have overcome the ignorance of Hillary The Corrupt and Diane Feinstein with facts about real assault weapons. Hint!!! It's not what a gun looks like that makes it an assault weapon.
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mirage29 Knowflake Posts: 8453 From: us Registered: May 2012
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posted October 04, 2017 02:02 PM
Why were the exits blocked???Maybe... the event-managers were keeping tabs and invested in keeping people OUT of the arena who hadn't paid? Blocked, to make higher profits. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 10841 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 04, 2017 04:12 PM
quote: Originally posted by jwhop: "Only the classiest responses from you. Take it yo the other thread."Hmmm, do I sense anger that you can't refute what was said? Guns are one of the most studied objects in society so you could have easily armed yourself with facts before popping off. Then, you could have overcome the ignorance of Hillary The Corrupt and Diane Feinstein with facts about real assault weapons. Hint!!! It's not what a gun looks like that makes it an assault weapon.
you sense nothing of the sort. There is a thread for discussion and arguing about gun control. Trying to avoid taking away from mourning of the victims, but you put a stop to that, didn't you? You are just plain rude, and can't make a decent argument, so you resort to insults every single time. You try to offend and derail, rather than admitting that something has to be done. IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 10450 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 04, 2017 07:11 PM
Cities with the strictest gun laws have the highest crime AND murder rates.What the gun grabbers are really after is grabbing law abiding citizen's guns and leaving them defenseless against criminals. As for denying people on the "Don't Fly List" from buying or possessing firearms, let's make it clear there are thousands and maybe tens of thousands of American citizens placed on the Do Not Fly List for no reason...or by mistake. Senator Ted Kennedy was on the No Fly List and was unable to get off through any normal procedures. There's no explanations given, no appeal process, it's an arbitrary procedure with no accountability and that's the reason the NRA and wide awake members of congress wouldn't go along with the gun grabbers. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 10841 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 04, 2017 07:20 PM
Nevada has the weakest gun laws, apparently. There is another thread for this discussion. IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 10450 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 04, 2017 11:40 PM
"There were people there with guns. Absolutely useless!... as is your complaint that anyone in America should be able to stockpile automatic rifles."Absolute bullshiiite. I do not and have not complained that citizens have the right to own "automatic weapons". Such weapons...fully automatic weapons have been banned in the United States since about 1934. Of course, you could prove me wrong by posting a statement where I approved of, or recommended Americans be permitted to purchase and keep "automatic weapons". Oh, and let me head you off at the pass by suggesting you don't attempt to equate semi-autos with full automatic weapons. IP: Logged |
Catalina Knowflake Posts: 5119 From: shamballa Registered: Aug 2013
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posted October 05, 2017 03:23 AM
K then... you didn't say automatics. You just said NO RESTRICTIONS TO BEARING ARMS. But automatics are restricted...pardon my confusion😉How about restrictions on devices that make it eady tomodify semis into automatics? No restrictions there either? I reckon people in that crowd who were armed would disagree with you that their guns made them any safer. I dont like the idea of scanners every where either. What price safety? Implanted trackers? The funny thing is that while crime is high in highly regulated areas(because crime is high) , people living there feel the need to protect themselves and thus become "criminals". It's a vicious circle. Which came first? Long before 1934, Chicago had a gun problem.. in fact that was a major reason for the ban of '34... Has anyone here ever been shot? Threatened with a gun? I knew a young man who was shot dead. He was armed. Was that what gave him the confidence to yell and intimidate someone he felt was harassing him? I dont know but he wasnt waving his gun around and he didn't know the other guy was carrying either until he took a bullet point blsnk in the chest. what good did his firearm do him?
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jwhop Knowflake Posts: 10450 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 05, 2017 08:57 AM
"K then... you didn't say automatics. You just said NO RESTRICTIONS TO BEARING ARMS. But automatics are restricted...pardon my confusion😉"So, when did I say NO RESTRICTIONS TO BEARING ARMS? Go ahead, post that comment..allegedly by me...RIGHT HERE! No restrictions would mean M-60 machine guns, Stinger missiles, Abrams tanks, 50 caliber machine guns, FA-18 fighter/bomber aircraft and even nuclear weapons would be on the "approved list" of weapons American citizens could legally own. IP: Logged |