posted August 05, 2019 06:39 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
This guy was an environmentslist who wanted to depopulate the earth, so maybe we should blame Al Gore?

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posted August 05, 2019 07:00 PM            

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Originally posted by BlueRoamer:
Trump's response today is pathetic, not addressing his own part in these shootings.

Video games? Seriously? How about your own divisive and anti immigrant rhetoric?

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he's blaming video games and anonymous messageboards because of the people who are doing the attacks, it's ridiculous of course to blame either

video games in particular have nothing to do with it, though as i've said those particular messageboards do attract the alt right in droves and there's a huge collection of nazis who use them as a platform to anonymously discuss ****

though most of those sites also have other groups of people on them

8chan closing just means a flood to other boards for a lot of its users until it inevitably goes back up again on a new platform unless this becomes a way to attack those sorts of boards just in general

the reason he threw video games onto that list is because many people into them are on those boards

he's not wrong on some level saying that there's a toxic environment on them but the reality is you can't actually plan **** on them because they're being monitored and it's typically people who have already done **** or are just about to who post on there to brag

the sort of boards i mentioned on a previous post where i talked about the guy who actually posted pictures of people he murdered that everyone thought initially was just normal gore **** posting

turned out it wasn't

that all being said those people will just find other communities and bounce around

there's plenty of that all over discord too, but to a lesser extent

it's not about the boards, and it's not the video games and it's not him (especially not in the case of ohio where the guy was anti-trump and an extreme leftist) and it's not guns

it's the climate of social unrest and cultural issues that aren't being dealt with

the reality is infringing on the few things some of these people care about (and in some cases their only social interaction) is just going to agitate them more

posted August 05, 2019 08:03 PM            

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Originally posted by shura:
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posted August 05, 2019 09:09 PM            

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Wait, you could be the russian troll

posted August 05, 2019 11:39 PM            

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Originally posted by BlueRoamer:
We know that those of us who’ve been here for 20 years are not Russian trolls. Everyone else is suspect.

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posted August 07, 2019 05:08 PM            

“President George W. Bush's chief speechwriter, Michael Gerson, has a message for people who are excusing President Trump's racism:

"I had fully intended to ignore President Trump’s latest round of racially charged taunts against an African American elected official, and an African American activist, and an African American journalist and a whole city with a lot of African Americans in it. I had every intention of walking past Trump’s latest outrages and writing about the self-destructive squabbling of the Democratic presidential field, which has chosen to shame former vice president Joe Biden for the sin of being an electable, moderate liberal.

But I made the mistake of pulling James Cone’s 'The Cross and the Lynching Tree' off my shelf — a book designed to shatter convenient complacency. Cone recounts the case of a white mob in Valdosta, Ga., in 1918 that lynched an innocent man named Haynes Turner. Turner’s enraged wife, Mary, promised justice for the killers. The sheriff responded by arresting her and then turning her over to the mob, which included women and children. According to one source, Mary was 'stripped, hung upside down by the ankles, soaked with gasoline, and roasted to death. In the midst of this torment, a white man opened her swollen belly with a hunting knife and her infant fell to the ground and was stomped to death.'

God help us. It is hard to write the words. This evil — the evil of white supremacy, resulting in dehumanization, inhumanity and murder — is the worst stain, the greatest crime, of U.S. history. It is the thing that nearly broke the nation. It is the thing that proved generations of Christians to be vicious hypocrites. It is the thing that turned normal people into moral monsters, capable of burning a grieving widow to death and killing her child.

When the president of the United States plays with that fire or takes that beast out for a walk, it is not just another political event, not just a normal day in campaign 2020. It is a cause for shame. It is the violation of martyrs’ graves. It is obscene graffiti on the Lincoln Memorial. It is, in the eyes of history, the betrayal — the re-betrayal — of Haynes and Mary Turner and their child. And all of this is being done by an ignorant and arrogant narcissist reviving racist tropes for political gain, indifferent to the wreckage he is leaving, the wounds he is ripping open.

Like, I suspect, many others, I am finding it hard to look at resurgent racism as just one in a series of presidential offenses or another in a series of Republican errors. Racism is not just another wrong. The Antietam battlefield is not just another plot of ground. The Edmund Pettus Bridge is not just another bridge. The balcony outside Room 306 at the Lorraine Motel is not just another balcony. As U.S. history hallows some causes, it magnifies some crimes.

What does all this mean politically? It means that Trump’s divisiveness is getting worse, not better. He makes racist comments, appeals to racist sentiments and inflames racist passions. The rationalization that he is not, deep down in his heart, really a racist is meaningless. Trump’s continued offenses mean that a large portion of his political base is energized by racist tropes and the language of white grievance. And it means — whatever their intent — that those who play down, or excuse, or try to walk past these offenses are enablers.

posted August 07, 2019 05:13 PM            

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Originally posted by BlueRoamer:
We know that those of us who’ve been here for 20 years are not Russian trolls. Everyone else is suspect.

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posted August 07, 2019 07:01 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
FINALLY: From Republican Michael Gerson:

“President George W. Bush's chief speechwriter, Michael Gerson, has a message for people who are excusing President Trump's racism:

"I had fully intended to ignore President Trump’s latest round of racially charged taunts against an African American elected official, and an African American activist, and an African American journalist and a whole city with a lot of African Americans in it. I had every intention of walking past Trump’s latest outrages and writing about the self-destructive squabbling of the Democratic presidential field, which has chosen to shame former vice president Joe Biden for the sin of being an electable, moderate liberal.

But I made the mistake of pulling James Cone’s 'The Cross and the Lynching Tree' off my shelf — a book designed to shatter convenient complacency. Cone recounts the case of a white mob in Valdosta, Ga., in 1918 that lynched an innocent man named Haynes Turner. Turner’s enraged wife, Mary, promised justice for the killers. The sheriff responded by arresting her and then turning her over to the mob, which included women and children. According to one source, Mary was 'stripped, hung upside down by the ankles, soaked with gasoline, and roasted to death. In the midst of this torment, a white man opened her swollen belly with a hunting knife and her infant fell to the ground and was stomped to death.'

God help us. It is hard to write the words. This evil — the evil of white supremacy, resulting in dehumanization, inhumanity and murder — is the worst stain, the greatest crime, of U.S. history. It is the thing that nearly broke the nation. It is the thing that proved generations of Christians to be vicious hypocrites. It is the thing that turned normal people into moral monsters, capable of burning a grieving widow to death and killing her child.

When the president of the United States plays with that fire or takes that beast out for a walk, it is not just another political event, not just a normal day in campaign 2020. It is a cause for shame. It is the violation of martyrs’ graves. It is obscene graffiti on the Lincoln Memorial. It is, in the eyes of history, the betrayal — the re-betrayal — of Haynes and Mary Turner and their child. And all of this is being done by an ignorant and arrogant narcissist reviving racist tropes for political gain, indifferent to the wreckage he is leaving, the wounds he is ripping open.

Like, I suspect, many others, I am finding it hard to look at resurgent racism as just one in a series of presidential offenses or another in a series of Republican errors. Racism is not just another wrong. The Antietam battlefield is not just another plot of ground. The Edmund Pettus Bridge is not just another bridge. The balcony outside Room 306 at the Lorraine Motel is not just another balcony. As U.S. history hallows some causes, it magnifies some crimes.

What does all this mean politically? It means that Trump’s divisiveness is getting worse, not better. He makes racist comments, appeals to racist sentiments and inflames racist passions. The rationalization that he is not, deep down in his heart, really a racist is meaningless. Trump’s continued offenses mean that a large portion of his political base is energized by racist tropes and the language of white grievance. And it means — whatever their intent — that those who play down, or excuse, or try to walk past these offenses are enablers.

Some political choices are not just stupid or crude. They represent the return of our country’s cruelest, most dangerous passion. Such racism indicts Trump. Treating racism as a typical or minor matter indicts us."

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posted August 07, 2019 07:23 PM            

I know who Michel Gerson is.

He's one of the NeverTrump crowd on the order of Rick Wilson, Rich Lowery and Bill Kristol. Globalist moron sell-outs, one and all.

posted August 08, 2019 06:13 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Very misleading headline. And Obama said: "If they bring a knife, we bring a gun."

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posted August 08, 2019 06:20 PM            

I feel so left out.

Trump never told me to slam 13 year olds for disrespecting America, or to punch those who don't stand for the National Anthem or to shoot traitors. Trump never told me to do anything.

I've watched Trump's speeches and rallies. I've never heard Trump direct any supporter to do anything at all....except VOTE!

posted August 08, 2019 06:43 PM            

hes actually a really weak president if you look at his record, he basically just sits there and tweets about kanye west and other baloney

In terms of legislation he got one bill through that off loaded tax burden from corps onto the upper middle class, who cares

Domestically hes done virtually nothing, except incite racism and division and pettiness, he acts like a racist carnival barker, not a president

Internationally hes done virtually nothing, we're looking like chumps with iran

Tell me what hes done thats so great?

Hes overseeing the biggest decline in US history on the world stage, which I actually think he is more a symptom of than a cause of