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BlueRoamer
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posted August 04, 2019 12:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted August 04, 2019 12:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
it's easier to get an illegal gun than it is a legal one because legal guns have restrictions and require licenses

just saying

it's also not trump's fault people took it there you're just blaming him because you dislike him

the reality is it's got to do with a lot of different factors in a crumbling society with a corrupt system

it's the social climate not the guns, it's going to be chaotic and outlawing guns won't fix it

then you'll be crying about some other way people are killing each other because it's inevitable and shootings are still going to happen anyway

people really underestimate how easy it is to get illegal things and if you really want something there's always a way

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posted August 04, 2019 01:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lol Imagine clearing out Chicago. How about St Louis, BR? Will you volunteer for that?

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posted August 04, 2019 02:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm wondering if the Left's climate change fearmongering rhetoric is inspiring this surge of violent ecofascists. hmm.

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posted August 04, 2019 02:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I'm wondering if the Left's climate change fearmongering rhetoric is inspiring this surge of violent ecofascists. hmm.

Oh sure. Couldn't be the racist President.

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posted August 04, 2019 02:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Im pretty sure Trump doesn't support ecofascism, teasel. Quite the opposite, no?

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posted August 04, 2019 02:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Oh sure. Couldn't be the racist President.

racial tension in this country goes way back trump didn't put it here

you know how many people were calling for a race war before he was in office? a **** ton

the issues that are causing this kind of violence are multi-faceted, deep-rooted, and you're giving trump way too much credit to blame so much on him

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posted August 04, 2019 02:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It’s mainly the free availability of guns, it’s secondarily trumps racist rhetoric, it’s thirdly cultural issues like unrest, Internet, jobs

I won’t whine about mass stabbing. I’ll stab the ******** back. How can I shoot someone if they shoot me first. Already dead. He who shoots first wins.

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posted August 04, 2019 02:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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racial tension in this country goes way back trump didn't put it here

you know how many people were calling for a race war before he was in office? a **** ton

the issues that are causing this kind of violence are multi-faceted, deep-rooted, and you're giving trump way too much credit to blame so much on him


So does talk of climate change. And no, way too much blame is not put on him. He's incredibly divisive, and doesn't give a **** about us.

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posted August 04, 2019 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by BlueRoamer:
It’s mainly the free availability of guns, it’s secondarily trumps racist rhetoric, it’s thirdly cultural issues like unrest, Internet, jobs

I won’t whine about mass stabbing. I’ll stab the ******** back. How can I shoot someone if they shoot me first. Already dead. He who shoots first wins.


and he who goes for explosives wins too, lot of devastating ways to kill people

if without access to guns you want to make scene you don't go for a knife you go for bombs, poison gas, napalm etc and so on

you know **** anyone can make that's more effective than a knife

you'll just force creativity on people who don't go out and get illegal guns, it's not like the law prevents crime

crime is about the observer effect, if you don't caught it may as well not have happened and buying illegal things is easy like i said and the illegal **** is not only better but it's not regulated

you don't have to jump through hoops you just need cash, which is what you need for a legal weapon except you also need a license and to go through a whole ******* process etc and so on

i mean you have to realize that just making guns illegal won't do **** about keeping them off the streets because this country is legit saturated in them

it's first and foremost cultural issues because guns being legal is part of our constitution this country was literally founded with the right to bear arms ingrained into it

the rise in violence is purely due to issues that are separate from guns

and guaranteed making guns illegal will cause a huge upsurge in violence at least temporarily

not only that but if you start ******* with the constitution on that level, then you better take a good look at all the other **** that would be up for revision along with it


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posted August 04, 2019 02:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:
So does talk of climate change. And no, way too much blame is not put on him. He's incredibly divisive, and doesn't give a **** about us.

here's a secret most politicians don't give a **** about the masses they're in it for money and power and you're no one to them

if you really cared about that you would seek alternatives to playing into the system

too much blame is being put on him because these issues were already there and watch **** will likely get worse regardless of which way the next election goes

a democrat is not going to fix the issues and neither will a republican, a complete overhaul would be necessary

what would make a republican potentially better is if they have a heavy focus on individual state rights, that might keep things at bay a little longer

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posted August 04, 2019 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://twitter.com/jfreewright/status/1158086347006996481

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And yet, when London suffers a terrorist attack, this bottom-sucking, racist degenerate maligns the city’s mayor on THIS VERY PLATFORM. And most Republicans don’t care.The deep negative impact of such messaging is not undone by empty platitudes he offers here now before golfing. https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1157988680851689473 …


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posted August 04, 2019 03:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If it’s so easy to do mass killings with napalm and bombs why don’t we see it more often?

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posted August 04, 2019 03:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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If it’s so easy to do mass killings with napalm and bombs why don’t we see it more often?

because we have guns

napalm is crazy easy to make though, hardly anything to it

i used to do that kind of **** as a teenager just because, not to use it on anything that would matter but just generally being destructive

if a young teenager can manage it i'm sure adults with purpose, reason, and strategy could do better

they just don't because they're not forced to be creative

i'm sure if i had access to guns as a teenager in brooklyn i would've ****** around with those too instead i used what was available to do stupid **** with

edit: just being real with you, these kinds of things aren't that hard, they're just not used because we have alternatives

but when there's a lack of alternatives people will create things

it's possible to make **** that fires bullets too, these things aren't as hard as you think

you can make simple explosives going into a hardware store and poison gas out of household products

the reality is guns are just what people are used to but if they don't have that they'll do other **** it's not hard

that being said i bet napalm would be a bigger statement than a mass shooting no one would expect that **** because no one does it

also again like i said illegal **** is easy for people to get, i've known so many people over the years with all kinds of illegal weapons ******* military guns and whatnot

you're putting too much weight on laws and ruling out how creative people can be and how easy certain things are

there's a tendency to use things we're used to (guns) but when that isn't the case then people just change what they do

like i said bombs, trucks, acid etc

don't be naive about people and how destructive they can be

remember warfare without guns went on for a long ******* time, and plenty of people died

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White Supremacist Domestic Terror is slowly reaching critical mass. The El-Paso Terrorist drove for 10 hours just to kill Hispanics. 8Chan Message Boards celebrated the genocide.
I agree that gun control will not stop a Terrorist, but banning assault rifles will temporarily bring down the death count of innocents killed/wounded for life in mass shootings. Neo Nazis will develop other ways to kill off Hispancs, Jews, Muslims and Asians in America but FBI will have a better chance of pre-emptively stopping them once Assault Rifles are off their menu. (Note: The Satanic White Terrorist Timothy McVeigh did not use guns.)

What can be done to purge the hate against non-whites? That should be the prime goal of leadership now. In another 20 years, Majority of USA is going to be POC, and mass killings will escalate because of this unless the disease is tackled from the roots. USA needs a Home Grown Southern Accented White Gandhi now to quell the hate from the hearts of the White Supremacist Terrorists and their powerful Enablers.

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posted August 04, 2019 04:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Finally, in all this talk of self defense for the little guy, someone mentions Ghandi, who found the best defense against the govt was not weapons at all. But of course a high degree of cooperation is necessary in such tactics. Perish the thought, eh?

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posted August 04, 2019 04:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@iQ:

i wouldn't push for gandhi considering he's mostly just got good pr and was an overall terrible person whose pacisfism didn't actually get the british out of india to begin with

he's just pushed as an example because propping up pacifism as a shining example keeps people passive

i'm sure a lot of the chans are celebrating it, i imagine /pol/ right now is loving it with how many nazis are there

taking away assault rifles from everyone would be a huge mistake at the current point in time, because these attacks are highly likely to increase and there's a likelihood that people will need to defends themselves against this sort of thing

things are at a point where a lot of people are pushing for **** like civil war among other things this isn't the sort of climate where you start taking away weapons because that not only won't stop the problem but it's likely to just put other people at a disadvantage

i think people are likely just going to have to accept that america being this safe country that was untouched by war on its soil for so many years isn't going to continue that way forever and be prepared for it

the thing with the white issue is that by focusing on non whites a lot of white people are feeling threatened, you know that you visit the same sort of anonymous messages boards i do and see the rhetoric

it's people feeling displaced and forgotten while the world collapses around in front of them latching onto race as a way to have some kind of identity

societal conditions have built increasing levels of nihilism that are becoming dangerous

this is another "happening" that they're all living for you know?

i don't think this violence is entirely preventable i think it's a consequence of a lot of things in society going wrong and i think you'll see more violence on all sides as people get increasingly more distressed and restless

i think this kind of thing is just going to end up playing out ultimately and it won't be pretty

i have a lot of occult related reasons for believing that, things are rapidly heading in the directions of predictions and occult trends etc that have been hanging around for years before they even get to this place

even outside of that it's a matter of not being able to kill ideas, these people are martyrs and heroes to people who share their ideals

these are acts of war and punishing the masses for them will be a mistake ultimately

the election regardless of which way it goes will make things worse, i'd bet on it

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posted August 04, 2019 04:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Finally, in all this talk of self defense for the little guy, someone mentions Ghandi, who found the best defense against the govt was not weapons at all. But of course a high degree of cooperation is necessary in such tactics. Perish the thought, eh?

you know gandhi worked with the british army in africa to do what they did in india, set the actual revolution back and got people killed, was an all around horrible abusive person and just got good pr right? he's like mother theresa, terrible person with good publicity

the truth is pacifism doesn't actually work, it's just one part of a series of things that should be implemented because part of war is peace

the british left india for unrelated reasons though and gandhi often got off a lot lighter than his followers when it came to imprisonment and such

if ww2 didn't happen when it did gandhi's efforts would've meant **** all

pacifism is preached by schools and taught but it's not actually nearly as effective as the narrative goes

we're taught it as a gold standard because it breeds weakness to hold place it on a pedestal

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"Bloody Trump needs to come to Jesus and see himself as a murderer so he can repent."

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His African cooperation was earlier and before the pacifist action. Black soldiers fought in the civil war before nonviolent action in the 20thc. Apples, oranges.

Im not making a case for Ghandi as Saint. Only that he used nonviolence with great effect against a heavily armed government.

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posted August 04, 2019 06:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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His African cooperation was earlier and before the pacifist action. Black soldiers fought in the civil war before nonviolent action in the 20thc. Apples, oranges.

Im not making a case for Ghandi as Saint. Only that he used nonviolence with great effect against a heavily armed government.


yeah he previously did something somewhere else and kept those ties to the british army later on in life while he was being a pacifist so hypocrite at best

and he didn't really do that much against the british army that's what i'm saying, they left for unrelated reasons

mostly he got a lot of people jailed and killed and did ultimately ineffectual ****

gandhi is just propped up like other pacifists because societies that worship pacifism are unlikely to rebel in meaningful ways

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If We look at the few members of G.U. and review how polarized it has become and multiply it x 1000 ,you can see how the american mass's are feeling.

Libratards, demorats , lefty loons or trumpsters is only a taste of how driven people are to be pigheaded, place blame and renounce civility and facts.

Media magnification and If you dont look like me, speak my language, belive like me you are "pick an ugly name" s.o.b..

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posted August 04, 2019 06:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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yeah he previously did something somewhere else and kept those ties to the british army later on in life while he was being a pacifist so hypocrite at best

and he didn't really do that much against the british army that's what i'm saying, they left for unrelated reasons

mostly he got a lot of people jailed and killed and did ultimately ineffectual ****

gandhi is just propped up like other pacifists because societies that worship pacifism are unlikely to rebel in meaningful ways


Gandhi is no hill to die on but the old white liberals insist. I experience the same wall when discussing Churchill with the Right. Household gods above reproach blah blah

I will point out, cat, that St Gandhi, much like St Malcolm, had the good fortune of appealing to a reasonable people of good conscience. You wont have the benefit of this.

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posted August 04, 2019 06:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wheat and the chaff, juni.

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White Supremacist Domestic Terror is slowly reaching critical mass. The El-Paso Terrorist drove for 10 hours just to kill Hispanics. 8Chan Message Boards celebrated the genocide.
I agree that gun control will not stop a Terrorist, but banning assault rifles will temporarily bring down the death count of innocents killed/wounded for life in mass shootings. Neo Nazis will develop other ways to kill off Hispancs, Jews, Muslims and Asians in America but FBI will have a better chance of pre-emptively stopping them once Assault Rifles are off their menu. (Note: The Satanic White Terrorist Timothy McVeigh did not use guns.)

What can be done to purge the hate against non-whites? That should be the prime goal of leadership now. In another 20 years, Majority of USA is going to be POC, and mass killings will escalate because of this unless the disease is tackled from the roots. USA needs a Home Grown Southern Accented White Gandhi now to quell the hate from the hearts of the White Supremacist Terrorists and their powerful Enablers.


He drove 10 hours to kill Hispanics? Are Hispanics that hard to find 10 hours outside of El Paso?

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