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jwhop
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posted August 17, 2019 12:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/457645-fox-news-poll-shows-trump-losing-to-biden-warren-sanders-and-harris


AND, all they had to do to get that polling results was to:

POLL 10% MORE DEMOCRATS THAN REPUBLICANS

So, they're starting really early with their phony polls but, it's just not going to fly.

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posted August 17, 2019 01:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
FOX, you got some 'splainin' to do!

It does appear that Chief Warren has taken a heap big lead over Bernie, though.

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posted August 17, 2019 07:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i'm curious if the polls said something you preferred would you still consider them phony or would you decide they were accurate?

generally speaking polls are skewed and mainstream media news is ******** pushing agenda

but it seems your issue is with the fact that you dislike the results so i'm curious if you'd see that same potential for bias if it were trump in the lead instead

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posted August 17, 2019 08:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, because if such biased polls show President Trump ahead, then he is actually way ahead. He was polling at 5% before the election. CNN and CDNC sometimes poll favorably to Trump, and you just know they hate reporting it. Jwhop had issue with the skewing, which is a valid point.

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posted August 17, 2019 09:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
i'm curious if the polls said something you preferred would you still consider them phony or would you decide they were accurate?

Yes, he only believes polls that make trump look good, and Democrats look bad.

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posted August 17, 2019 11:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:
Yes, he only believes polls that make trump look good, and Democrats look bad.

Put a cork in it lefty.

Polls that are overweighted...to democrats or republicans, overweighted by gender, by age, by geography are worthless. Of course you wouldn't know that unless you bother to read the 'poll internals'.

Thusly, Fox polled way more democrats than republicans and got the result they wanted. Biden beats Trump by 12 points in a head to head matchup....so says the Fox Poll.

But, that's not reality! Polling companies tried the same nonsense in 2016...overweighting their polls to favor Hillary The Corrupt. Trump won 306-232, that's a win by 74 electoral votes...a knockout!

So, aside from checking poll internals, what could rational people do to protect themselves against rabid partisan nonsense by polling companies?

You could check what else is going on in the world of politics..especially by candidates.

There's this:

Trump fills an arena to overflowing in Manchester, New Hampshire...11,500 people, some of whom waited in line to get in from the night before the event.

At the same time, in the same city, Manchester, Joe 'Plugs' O'Biden draws about 30..that's right, THIRTY, not 30,000, but THIRTY people to his event.

Based on those numbers, Crash Dummies can safely say Joe 'Plugs' beats Trump by 12 points.

Joe Biden Drew Only 30 Supporters in New Hampshire During Trump Rally
Haris Alic
16 Aug 2019

Joe Biden drew only 30 supporters to an event held at the same time as President Donald Trump’s massive rally in New Hampshire on Thursday...........

http://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2019/08/16/joe-biden-drew-only-30-supporters-in-new-hampshire-during-trump-rally/

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posted August 17, 2019 12:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
President Trump's rally in Manchester, New Hampshire broke the attendance record for the arena.

Wow, President Trump Crowd for New Hampshire Rally Easily Breaks Record…
August 16, 2019
sundance


President Trump said the MAGA rally at the SNHU Arena in Manchester, New Hampshire, beat all venue records for crowd attendance.

The anti-Trump media nuts immediately went bananas trying to disprove it. The funny things is, not only was President Trump correct – he underestimated the crowd....


11,500 inside, beating the record crowd to see an Elton John concert

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8,000-9000 more outside watching the rally on giant screens Trump had put up.

.....
http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/08/16/wow-president-trump-crowd-for-new-hampshire-rally-easily-breaks-record/#more-168431

Everyone can easily see how fired up everyone is for the candidacy of Joe 'Plugs' O'Biden...who drew THIRTY PEOPLE to his event at the same time...in the same city!

Yeah Fox, Biden beats Trump by 12 points!

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posted August 17, 2019 10:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually i think Mick Jagger has already won if crowd size is what you call an indicator. The Donald can't raise half the crowd even tho he gives tix away and works the punters 24/7. LMAOIAWS DonnyTakeaTip

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posted August 17, 2019 11:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Catalina:
Actually i think Mick Jagger has already won if crowd size is what you call an indicator. The Donald can't raise half the crowd even tho he gives tix away and works the punters 24/7. LMAOIAWS DonnyTakeaTip

Oh do give it a rest. Trump's record attendance was for the SNHU Arena in Manchester New Hampshire.

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posted August 17, 2019 11:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
Yes, because if such biased polls show President Trump ahead, then he is actually way ahead. He was polling at 5% before the election. CNN and CDNC sometimes poll favorably to Trump, and you just know they hate reporting it. Jwhop had issue with the skewing, which is a valid point.

my point is all polls are skewed, because they only select x amount of the population to poll so even if the results are further skewed than what they started with the sample is likely to be ****** from the beginning

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posted August 18, 2019 12:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, Dumuzi, only polls that don't support the Team are skewed!

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posted August 18, 2019 12:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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No, Dumuzi, only polls that don't support the Team are skewed!

it doesn't even matter tbh, it just picks what show we watch as police become more militarized, mass surveillance goes up etc and so on

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posted August 18, 2019 01:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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No, Dumuzi, only polls that don't support the Team are skewed!

Obviously, you don't give a damn that you're being lied to...consistently by the propaganda artists in the MSM.

Yet, when Americans saw through the bullshiiite polls put out by Hillary The Corrupt supporters and elected Trump, you leftists screeched, howled, shrieked and sniveled your way into total Trump Derangement Syndrome. The media and pollsters lied through their teeth to you, misled you into believing your Queen of Corruption was going to win.

So, who was right...then?

Trump supporters who ignored the skewed bullshiit polls?

Or leftists who love MSM lies in support of their political candidates?

My point is that these jack-holes haven't learned a damned thing. They're repeating the very same bullshiite that failed them in 2016.

Enjoy!

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posted August 18, 2019 01:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One small problem with this statement

Obviously, you don't give a damn that you're being lied to...consistently by the propaganda artists in the MSM.

I don't read, or present polls, as indicative of anything but the pollsters' inherent bias. The questions, the people asked, and the conclusions are all skewed by the viewpoint and process of the pollster. Your beloved Rasmussen deem themselves competent to decide who is or is not a likely voter. Others have different distorting lenses.

Polls schmolls. ALL of them.

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posted August 18, 2019 01:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
More media lies. Drooling press a$$es question Trump's claim about attendance at his rally in Manchester, New Hampshire.

Leftists love lies.

Fire Marshal Fact-Checks Fake News About Trump New Hampshire Rally Attendance
Joel B. Pollak
18 Aug 2019

A fire department official in Manchester, New Hampshire, has confirmed President Donald Trump’s claim to have smashed attendance records at his rally at the SNHU Arena last Thursday, contradicting fake news about “empty seats.”

Trump proclaimed last Friday that his rally, which filled the 11,700-seat arena and left thousands more supporters outside, had broken Elton John’s attendance record for the venue.......

....The idea that Trump had failed to fill the arena was never true, but was circulated by Trump’s opponents and by the mainstream media in a classic example of fake news...........

http://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2019/08/18/fire-marshal-fact-checks-fake-news-about-trump-new-hampshire-rally-attendance/

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posted August 18, 2019 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Indeed! Folks love to line up to hear the don lie in person.
http://www-nytimes-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.nytimes.com/2019/08/15/us/politics/fact-check-trump-new-hampshire.amp.html?amp_js_v=a2&_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQEKAFwAQ%3D%3D#aoh=156 61507149677&_ct=1566150729056&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From%20%251%24s&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2019%2F08%2F15%2Fus%2Fpolitics%2Ffact-check-t rump-new-hampshire.html

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posted August 18, 2019 02:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lol. He's even stolen lines from Jagger, who said this in London 25/30 years ago.

"You have a reputation for being very staid,” Trump continued. “You’re not acting it tonight … ”

He does know how to work a crowd, Ill give him that.he he's known for decades that .." no such thing as bad publicity!"

But hey, if he came to my town and the tix were free I'd go have a gander, why not? If he charged what Jagger( and John) do, and attracted as many punters, that would be amazing.

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posted August 18, 2019 02:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
politics and the media being loaded in lies and corruption isn't news, just facts, trump included

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posted August 18, 2019 03:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
People wait in line for days to get a seat, so I doubt you would do that just to get a gander.

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posted August 18, 2019 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by jwhop:
Obviously, you don't give a damn that you're being lied to...consistently by the propaganda artists

Oh, this is too easy. You elected someone who lies every single day. Every single day!

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posted August 18, 2019 05:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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People wait in line for days to get a seat, so I doubt you would do that just to get a gander.

you dont know me very well then

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posted August 18, 2019 06:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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People wait in line for days to get a seat, so I doubt you would do that just to get a gander.

I doubt that actually happens, and I've heard of people who just "got in for a gander".

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posted August 18, 2019 06:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I doubt that actually happens, and I've heard of people who just "got in for a gander".

no theyre all very serious for days

like there isnt enough live entertainment in a crowd like that to last that long anyway

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posted August 18, 2019 07:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
no theyre all very serious for days

like there isnt enough live entertainment in a crowd like that to last that long anyway


I don't find them entertaining, and I've never heard of lines for days, when it comes to trump. I've heard the opposite, actually.

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posted August 18, 2019 07:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tickets available online, so if people are having to line up, the website is overbooking. Why? You don't even have to stand on line to go to the movies these days unless you want to... but it's not going to happen, he won't book anything local to me and im not bored enough to travel to see him!

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