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Topic: Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg Dead At 87
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Dhyana Knowflake Posts: 638 From: US Registered: Sep 2019
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posted September 19, 2020 03:30 PM
quote: Originally posted by mirage29:  Donald John Trump, right now-- WITH this Option-- is being GIVEN a chance at Redemption.
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Dhyana Knowflake Posts: 638 From: US Registered: Sep 2019
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posted September 19, 2020 04:01 PM
People favor confirmation hearings for Supreme Court vacancy in 2020: Poll quote: A new poll conducted shortly before the death of Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg revealed that an overwhelming majority of U.S. adults of all political stripes supported holding hearings for a nominee if a vacancy opened on the nation's highest bench.Marquette University released the survey results on Saturday that showed 67% of adults believed the Senate should hold a hearing if a vacancy occurred during 2020's race, with only 32% opposition — and similar strong numbers across Republicans, Democrats, and independents, who supported holding confirmation hearings at 68-31%, 63-37%, and 71-28% respectively. The poll was completed three days before the death of Ginsburg, the 87-year-old liberal icon who was nominated by President Bill Clinton and confirmed in 1993. Ginsburg earned praise from Democrats and Republicans upon news of her death. snip The new poll showed that the majority of U.S. adults disagreed with blocking Garland's nomination, with 45% of Republicans saying it was right not to hold hearings for Garland and 54% saying it was wrong, while only 15% of Democrats thought it was right and 84% thought it was wrong, with 20-78% among independents. The poll was conducted between Sept. 8 and Sept. 15 with 1,523 adults nationwide interviewed online and a margin of error of plus or minus 3.6 percentage points.
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teasel Knowflake Posts: 15923 From: http://forum.astro.com/cgi/forum.cgi?action=viewprofile;username=u36170365 Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 19, 2020 04:59 PM
quote: Originally posted by Dhyana: Are we in a church?
I thought the entire country was church, to the evangelicals who want to rule over the uterus of every woman in the country. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 15923 From: http://forum.astro.com/cgi/forum.cgi?action=viewprofile;username=u36170365 Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 19, 2020 05:00 PM
quote: Originally posted by Dhyana: [b]People favor confirmation hearings for Supreme Court vacancy in 2020: Poll http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/people-favor-confirmati on-hearings-for-supreme-court-vacancy-in-2020-poll [/B]
People don't, actually. It's especially in bad taste, that McConnell declared it so soon. He is worse than Trump. IP: Logged |
mirage29 Knowflake Posts: 13761 From: us Registered: May 2012
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posted September 19, 2020 05:19 PM
Gently, truly... I'm at a bit of a loss of 'how' to describe and explain what the 'Quality' of Honor is, to one whom I give much credit for sincerely having to 'ask' WHAT it is--- How to discern Honor. 'To Honor' is part of the focus today. There needs to be an emotional reference bank to tap-into the meaning of Honor. How do I come close to describing the whole of what it means? If you understand the meaning behind 'namaste' .. then it's closer. It's like trying to describe what Love is, what Beauty is, what the definition of a higher sense of the-spiritual can be-- ? _____________________ With what happened today-- EVENT Ruth Bader Ginsburg hadn't been DEAD for half-a-day--- before Mitch and Donald went into action. There was no PAUSE to HONOR the dead with the rest of America. Callous in Heart and mind-- they demonstrate NO social understanding of the BASIC American psyche, her people's needs. The sense of compassion was non-existent. LET the American People GRIEVE and get themselves together after the 'shock' of this Loss of their Hero, of a GOOD and Righteous Servant. What they did was TOO SOON --- That was incredibly gauche ! Totally oblivious to the timing. Shows the degree to which those men are 'out-of-touch' with the Heart and Spirit of the REAL American People. Where's their soul, Where is their Conscience? They have not "included" themselves as being ONE with the people of THIS country. But with all my Heart-- I thank you for asking, Belagio. And I saw your comment about Raped Women, and very much appreciated what you said. It's unfortunate that the men of this admin don't see the Value of protecting WOMEN. Wow. {In fact, a couple of them have been sued for assault!! Illustrates THAT reason quite clearly.} This administration has been CALLOUS to the plight of Women, and a nest of other close-to-home issues they refuse to address. They hear, and don't listen. They are soooo out-of-touch with what 'real' Americans feel and need on a daily basis. _____________ God Have Mercy on The People of The USA. Let the People of My Country be Restored. Let Honor and a Good Conscience be a Value in those that govern. Let the Power of 'Goodness' and Righteousness Prevail over our Circumstances. Bring Healing... Open our eyes to See, and open hearts to the ability To Discern. Our Pledge and MOTTO: One Nation, under GOD-- Let them be convicted of ALL wrong-doings inside them, to the core. Grant us a more-sensitive Conscience, in this Holiday, this spiritual "New Year." Rosh Hashanah 2020 to Yom Kippur.
Thanking God again, for having given us the LIFE of Ruth Bader Ginsburg, and for the releasing of her spirit/soul ON such a SACRED and Holy Day. Bring a refreshing to the spirit of The People. (music) Save The People, Save The Country Build this Dream with "LOVE!" -- song by The Fifth Dimension.
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Belage Knowflake Posts: 3409 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 19, 2020 07:13 PM
Dear Mirage,Like your name said, you sound very Neptunian.  From an earthly perspective, RBG is gone. May she RIP. Mourning is an individual thing. Not everyone saw her as their hero, especially those on the political spectrum who did not align with her positions. Should they be forced to mourn her and refrain from moving ahead with the opportunities her passing affords? I wonder what would have been the tasteful amount of time to wait before looking for a replacement so close to the election. 1 week? 2 weeks? 1 month? Does it really matter? What is at stake is not honor nor is it mourning time. What is really at stake on planet earth in the USA is a vacancy whose replacement can change the balance of the US Supreme Court. That is what really scares the democrats, that Trump could be able to replace RBG with a conservative judge before November 3, and this is what makes the republicans salivate. While you may think DT is moving too fast, you best believe as soon as they heard of her passing, the democrats have been preparing for this eventuality and have been ready to spring full on blast to obstruct DT right in the midst of their "mourning". Death never stops the politicking on either side. IP: Logged |
Dhyana Knowflake Posts: 638 From: US Registered: Sep 2019
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posted September 19, 2020 10:08 PM
@LindseyGrahamSC quote: The two biggest changes regarding the Senate and judicial confirmations that have occurred in the last decade have come from Democrats.* Harry Reid changed the rules to allow a simple majority vote for Circuit Court nominees dealing out the minority. * Chuck Schumer and his friends in the liberal media conspired to destroy the life of Brett Kavanaugh and hold that Supreme Court seat open. In light of these two events, I will support President @realDonaldTrump in any effort to move forward regarding the recent vacancy created by the passing of Justice Ginsburg.
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Dhyana Knowflake Posts: 638 From: US Registered: Sep 2019
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posted September 19, 2020 10:10 PM
@7:13 p.m.Belage, well said. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 15923 From: http://forum.astro.com/cgi/forum.cgi?action=viewprofile;username=u36170365 Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 19, 2020 10:21 PM
Something like 70% of the people in this country, also believe in a woman's right to choose. The Supreme Court should reflect that. IP: Logged |
Dhyana Knowflake Posts: 638 From: US Registered: Sep 2019
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posted September 19, 2020 10:24 PM
quote: VP Biden in 2016:"I would go forward with the confirmation process as chairman. Even a few months before a presidential election... just as the Constitution requires."
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Dhyana Knowflake Posts: 638 From: US Registered: Sep 2019
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posted September 19, 2020 10:48 PM
President Obama in 2016: quote: "When there is a vacancy on the SCOTUS, the President is to nominate someone, the Senate is to consider that nomination... There's no unwritten law that says that it can only be done on off-years. That's not in the Constitution text."
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Dhyana Knowflake Posts: 638 From: US Registered: Sep 2019
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posted September 19, 2020 11:01 PM
@SenSchumer quote: Attn GOP: Senate has confirmed 17 #SCOTUS justices in presidential election years. #DoYourJob
http://twitter.com/SenSchumer/status/701953299268902912
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jwhop Knowflake Posts: 15274 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 19, 2020 11:09 PM
quote: Originally posted by Dhyana: @SenSchumerAttn GOP: Senate has confirmed 17 #SCOTUS justices in presidential election years. #DoYourJob http://twitter.com/SenSchumer/status/701953299268902912
 The American people agree...by a large margin. Poll: Majority Said Senate Should Hold Confirmation Hearings This Year to Fill SCOTUS Vacancy Hannah Bleau 19 Sep 2020 A majority of Americans said the Senate should hold confirmation hearings in the event of a Supreme Court vacancy this year, according to a Marquette University poll released Saturday, which had been conducted prior to the news of Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg's death. The Marquette University poll, conducted September 8-15, among 1,523 adults nationwide, found that a substantial majority of respondents, or 67 percent, believe the Senate should proceed with confirmation hearings this year if a vacancy occurred. Most notably, the survey found that the majority view does not tend to vary by party affiliation. Seventy-one percent of independents said the Senate should hold hearings in that scenario, followed by 68 percent of Republicans and 63 percent of Democrats..... http://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/09/19 /majority-said-senate-should-hold-confirmation-hearings-this-year-fill-scotus-vacancy/
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Dhyana Knowflake Posts: 638 From: US Registered: Sep 2019
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posted September 19, 2020 11:18 PM
quote: Hillary Clinton Statement on the Passing of Supreme Court Justice Antonin ScaliaMy thoughts and prayers are with the family and friends of Justice Scalia as they mourn his sudden passing. I did not hold Justice Scalia’s views, but he was a dedicated public servant who brought energy and passion to the bench. The Republicans in the Senate and on the campaign trail who are calling for Justice Scalia’s seat to remain vacant dishonor our Constitution. The Senate has a constitutional responsibility here that it cannot abdicate for partisan political reasons.
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jwhop Knowflake Posts: 15274 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 19, 2020 11:19 PM
President Trump Orders U.S. Flags Flown at Half-Staff to Honor Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 15274 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 19, 2020 11:27 PM
@Dhyana: Thanks for posting Hillary's remarks.The Republicans in the Senate and on the campaign trail who are calling for Justice Scalia’s seat to remain vacant dishonor our Constitution. The Senate has a constitutional responsibility here that it cannot abdicate for partisan political reasons. Hillary Clinton: Quickly filling RBG's seat would be 'monument to hypocrisy,' 'greatest travesty' 'Let’s not give an inch,' Clinton said IP: Logged |
Dhyana Knowflake Posts: 638 From: US Registered: Sep 2019
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posted September 19, 2020 11:29 PM
quote: In another tweet, Trump thanked former Sen. Harry Reid (D-Nev.) for in 2013 abolishing the requirement for presidential appointees receive 60 votes for confirmation. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) extended the policy to Supreme Court nominees in 2017.
The Dems can't do anything to stop the confirmation. So, they're threatening violence, which is what they have been doing already, and plan on doing after the election. http://www.zerohedge.com/political/picking-rbgs-successor-who-when IP: Logged |
Dhyana Knowflake Posts: 638 From: US Registered: Sep 2019
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posted September 19, 2020 11:38 PM
quote: Originally posted by jwhop: @Dhyana: Thanks for posting Hillary's remarks.The Republicans in the Senate and on the campaign trail who are calling for Justice Scalia’s seat to remain vacant dishonor our Constitution. The Senate has a constitutional responsibility here that it cannot abdicate for partisan political reasons. Hillary Clinton: Quickly filling RBG's seat would be 'monument to hypocrisy,' 'greatest travesty''Let’s not give an inch,' Clinton said.
You're welcome, Jwhop. Thank you for posting Hillary's 2020 statement.
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Dhyana Knowflake Posts: 638 From: US Registered: Sep 2019
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posted September 19, 2020 11:58 PM
@JohnWHuber quote: A total of 61 SCOTUS justices have been nominated and confirmed to the Supreme Court since the turn of the last century (1900)70% of these (43 Justices) were confirmed in *under 46 days* (the amount of time remaining until the Nov 3 Presidential election)
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mirage29 Knowflake Posts: 13761 From: us Registered: May 2012
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posted September 20, 2020 09:39 AM
Belage... thank you for taking the time for making your very kind reply.  I've been churning about it since I read.. I'm still trying to get around the lack of humanity in that political party-- yet, it explains their behaviors and mindset. I-personally would feel sad if a republican died, because they are a human being, and they once had people who loved them and admired. Most important of all, they were a fellow American. I have attended several of the online funerals for passed republicans, and 'felt' for them, and honored their service, and prayed for their families. With this current party, maybe they demonstrate the shift into an aquarian age? It's an age devoid of humanity, and encompasses the 'cold mechanical' features of the illness that was called 'autism', which perhaps in the future they will remove as a mental-health sick diagnoses to say autism is a preferred new normal. All about an inability to 'feel'. It's all self-absorbed, robots and metal things, no regard for other living beings. These are 'mere objects'. Spreader rallies pass along the contagion of a very deadly virus. The republican party has no regard for death. People who die are "losers." . . DEATHS from Covid-19 has now surpassed 200,000++ Souls. EACH one of them was a beloved individual, that belonged to a family or a community somewhere. My Heart goes out to them. Mourning is in the foundation of what it is to be an American right now. Sooo many losses. People losing their health insurance, etc. 'Losing' their life. But to the government.. 'it is as it is'. No feeling for them. Losers? Climate change.. Wildfires. So many losses. Floods, property unusable. No money. Shades of the new nonhuman-focused aquarian brand of politics is here?  Anyway, I feel a heavy sadness to see the Nortorious RGB pass away. Yes, she was very aged, but she was VERY cherished and LOVED by sooo many--- including the younger generation who made her into a pop icon and elevated her strength and heroism.
She is one of the humans that broke barriers -- More women have made their way out of the kitchen and into the career world. She Championed these, and helped them with their lives. I'm so impressed by her. I send Love to all those who may be mourning her passing right now. She did SO MUCH Good for the American Woman.
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jwhop Knowflake Posts: 15274 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 20, 2020 12:57 PM
"I'm still trying to get around the lack of humanity in that political party-- yet, it explains their behaviors and mindset."Sorry mirage, but it's not a lack of humanity, empathy or compassion which drives Republicans to nominate and confirm a new Supreme Court Justice. It's a matter of practical reality, duty and adherence to Constitutional principles. The Constitution requires presidents to nominate and the Senate to confirm or deny presidential nominations. This election is likely to be fought in state and federal courts. Biden has hired in excess of 600 lawyers to contest every Republican vote, to get 'cheat by mail' votes counted even when received after the election, even when unsigned, even when signatures on ballots don't match signatures on file, even when postmarked after the election and even when obvious 'ballot harvesting' is present when outlawed by states. This election and/or voting issues in this election are likely to end up in the US Supreme Court, just like the 2000 presidential election between Bush/Gore wound up. We need a full slate of 9 Supreme Court Justices to hear the issues and decide the validity of issues brought before them. IP: Logged |
Blind writer Knowflake Posts: 788 From: Texas, USA Registered: May 2012
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posted September 20, 2020 01:15 PM
Your description of autism is grossly uninformed and insulting. To even suggest that it be removed as a mental health problem and delegated as a “new normal” is to deny medical science. My nephew is autistic, and he will never be able to live a normal or self-sufficient life. He also has feelings, just like anyone. You are literally suggesting that the people who disagree with you politically are dehumanized robots. “That political party”, “their behavior and mindset”, “this current party”, “the republican party has no regard for death” - then you infer they’re autistic. You are “othering” a vast swath of people, approximately half this country. That’s not unifying in the slightest.Also, mourning a highly respected justice and replacing a vacancy in the highest court of our land are not mutually exclusive, and can be done simultaneously. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 15923 From: http://forum.astro.com/cgi/forum.cgi?action=viewprofile;username=u36170365 Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 20, 2020 02:13 PM
quote: Originally posted by Belage: Dear Mirage,Like your name said, you sound very Neptunian.  From an earthly perspective, RBG is gone. May she RIP. Mourning is an individual thing. Not everyone saw her as their hero, especially those on the political spectrum who did not align with her positions. Should they be forced to mourn her and refrain from moving ahead with the opportunities her passing affords? I wonder what would have been the tasteful amount of time to wait before looking for a replacement so close to the election. 1 week? 2 weeks? 1 month? Does it really matter? What is at stake is not honor nor is it mourning time. What is really at stake on planet earth in the USA is a vacancy whose replacement can change the balance of the US Supreme Court. That is what really scares the democrats, that Trump could be able to replace RBG with a conservative judge before November 3, and this is what makes the republicans salivate. While you may think DT is moving too fast, you best believe as soon as they heard of her passing, the democrats have been preparing for this eventuality and have been ready to spring full on blast to obstruct DT right in the midst of their "mourning". Death never stops the politicking on either side.
I thought you were pro-choice. Has that changed, too? We should have had a Supreme Court Justice up there, because of Obama, four years ago. McConnell took that away from us. He did that months and months before an election. He shouldn't get away with pushing someone through, six weeks before this one. We wouldn't have to "blast" anyone, if the republicans had any sense left. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 15923 From: http://forum.astro.com/cgi/forum.cgi?action=viewprofile;username=u36170365 Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 20, 2020 02:16 PM
quote: Originally posted by Blind writer: Your description of autism is grossly uninformed and insulting.
And yet you plan to keep a President who is grossly uninformed and insulting. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 15923 From: http://forum.astro.com/cgi/forum.cgi?action=viewprofile;username=u36170365 Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 20, 2020 02:19 PM
quote: Originally posted by jwhop: "I'm still trying to get around the lack of humanity in that political party-- yet, it explains their behaviors and mindset."Sorry mirage, but it's not a lack of humanity, empathy or compassion which drives Republicans to nominate and confirm a new Supreme Court Justice. It's a matter of practical reality, duty and adherence to Constitutional principles. The Constitution requires presidents to nominate and the Senate to confirm or deny presidential nominations. This election is likely to be fought in state and federal courts. Biden has hired in excess of 600 lawyers to contest every Republican vote, to get 'cheat by mail' votes counted even when received after the election, even when unsigned, even when signatures on ballots don't match signatures on file, even when postmarked after the election and even when obvious 'ballot harvesting' is present when outlawed by states. This election and/or voting issues in this election are likely to end up in the US Supreme Court, just like the 2000 presidential election between Bush/Gore wound up. We need a full slate of 9 Supreme Court Justices to hear the issues and decide the validity of issues brought before them.
What about 2016? Weren't they without a Justice for about a year? IP: Logged |