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Topic: Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg Dead At 87
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teasel Knowflake Posts: 15923 From: http://forum.astro.com/cgi/forum.cgi?action=viewprofile;username=u36170365 Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 20, 2020 02:24 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merrick_Garland quote:
On March 16, 2016, President Barack Obama nominated Garland to serve as an Associate Justice of the Supreme Court to fill the vacancy created by the death of Antonin Scalia. The Senate refused to hold a hearing or vote on this nomination made during the last year of Obama's presidency, with the Republican majority insisting that the next elected president should fill the vacancy. Senate Republicans' unprecedented refusal to consider the nomination was considered highly controversial. Garland's nomination lasted 293 days and expired on January 3, 2017, at the end of the 114th Congress. The seat Garland was nominated for was eventually filled by Neil Gorsuch, appointed by President Donald Trump.
I remember conspiracy theories floating around this, too. Some extremists who believe everything they're told by people like Alex Jones, decided that Scalia had been killed, to allow the Democrats another Supreme court seat, before the election. http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/02/guide-antonin-scalia-assassination-conspiracy-theories/ IP: Logged |
Belage Knowflake Posts: 3409 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 20, 2020 02:49 PM
quote: Originally posted by teasel: I thought you were pro-choice. Has that changed, too?
I am still pro-choice. However, I have evolved on the issue. I have come to understand the reasoning and the morale behind the so called Pro-Life movement. Every person on death row in the US is given legal representation, someone who purpots to speak for him in a court of Law. Our system allows for people like Jeffrey Dahmer, Ted Bundy, and any criminal who faces the death penalty to speak for themselves or have someone who speaks for them as a public defender. The fetus, baby, seed, whatever you choose to call the growing human in a womb does not have a voice and cannot speak for itself, and I have come to respect that the Pro-Life movement is its voice. And I see it as a legitimate movement. while I support women's reproductive rights, I now feel that it is not a strong morale position, it is one of expediency. I simply do not believe in forcing women who do not want to be parents to become mothers. Especially in the cases of rape. IP: Logged |
mirage29 Knowflake Posts: 13761 From: us Registered: May 2012
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posted September 20, 2020 03:00 PM
Thank you, jwhop, for your kind reply. I read and appreciated it.IP: Logged |
Belage Knowflake Posts: 3409 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 20, 2020 03:00 PM
quote: Originally posted by mirage29: Belage... thank you for taking the time for making your very kind reply. I've been churning about it since I read.. I'm still trying to get around the lack of humanity in that political party-- yet, it explains their behaviors and mindset. I-personally would feel sad if a republican died, because they are a human being, and they once had people who loved them and admired. Most important of all, they were a fellow American. I have attended several of the online funerals for passed republicans, and 'felt' for them, and honored their service, and prayed for their families. With this current party, maybe they demonstrate the shift into an aquarian age? It's an age devoid of humanity, and encompasses the 'cold mechanical' features of the illness that was called 'autism', which perhaps in the future they will remove as a mental-health sick diagnoses to say autism is a preferred new normal. All about an inability to 'feel'. It's all self-absorbed, robots and metal things, no regard for other living beings. These are 'mere objects'. Spreader rallies pass along the contagion of a very deadly virus. The republican party has no regard for death. People who die are "losers." . . [b]DEATHS from Covid-19 has now surpassed 200,000++ Souls. EACH one of them was a beloved individual, that belonged to a family or a community somewhere. My Heart goes out to them. Mourning is in the foundation of what it is to be an American right now. Sooo many losses. People losing their health insurance, etc. 'Losing' their life. But to the government.. 'it is as it is'. No feeling for them. Losers? Climate change.. Wildfires. So many losses. Floods, property unusable. No money. Shades of the new nonhuman-focused aquarian brand of politics is here? Anyway, I feel a heavy sadness to see the Nortorious RGB pass away. Yes, she was very aged, but she was VERY cherished and LOVED by sooo many--- including the younger generation who made her into a pop icon and elevated her strength and heroism.
She is one of the humans that broke barriers -- More women have made their way out of the kitchen and into the career world. She Championed these, and helped them with their lives. I'm so impressed by her. I send Love to all those who may be mourning her passing right now. She did SO MUCH Good for the American Woman.[/B]
Though I may not agree with everything you say, I appreciated hearing your voice and listening to your perspective.
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mirage29 Knowflake Posts: 13761 From: us Registered: May 2012
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posted September 20, 2020 03:02 PM
Thanks for your acceptance, Belage! IP: Logged |
Blind writer Knowflake Posts: 788 From: Texas, USA Registered: May 2012
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posted September 20, 2020 03:32 PM
quote: Originally posted by teasel: And yet you plan to keep a President who is grossly uninformed and insulting.
What? I wasn’t talking to you, I did not mention anything about who, if anyone, that I am considering voting for, and you tossed implied insults at me for no reason whatsoever. My respect for you has lowered. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 15923 From: http://forum.astro.com/cgi/forum.cgi?action=viewprofile;username=u36170365 Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 20, 2020 03:36 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/as-fires-ravage-california-trump-gives-his-climatechange-solution-itll-start-getting-cooler-203110588.html As fires ravage California, Trump gives his climate-change solution: 'It'll start getting cooler' This is his "informed" opinion. “It’ll start getting cooler,” Trump replied. “You just watch.” “I wish science agreed with you,” Crowfoot said. “Well, I don’t think science knows actually,” Trump retorted, laughing. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 132673 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 20, 2020 04:13 PM
Climate change isn’t causing fires. Climate change doesn’t affect lightning strikes and arsonists. Bad forest management is making them worse. And the planet is becoming cooler. IP: Logged |
Dhyana Knowflake Posts: 638 From: US Registered: Sep 2019
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posted September 20, 2020 04:22 PM
quote: A CNN poll across the board think the Supreme Court seat should be filled. The anchor isn't having it.
Overall: Yes: 67% No: 32% Republicans: Yes: 71% No.: 28% Democrats: Yes: 63% No.: 37% Independents: Yes: 71% No.: 27% http://twitter.com/Christi36145638/status/1307646829593468928 IP: Logged |
mirage29 Knowflake Posts: 13761 From: us Registered: May 2012
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posted September 20, 2020 04:28 PM
Blind writer.. Thanks for commenting.The "physical-medical" condition that some children like {your brother } are born with, is very different from the "social" condition. Anecdote-- I go grocery shopping around the same day, place and time. There's a man in a wheelchair I see often-- his MEDICAL form of autism has crippled him, including his speech. When he sees me he gets very excited. Wants me to move closer to him so he can stroke my hair and play with my long ponytail. It brings him joy. I have a natural affection for him, that he feels. Socially, what I refer to is more describing a condition of having no ability(or talent) to connect, see, feel, imagine life from another person's perspective.
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Dhyana Knowflake Posts: 638 From: US Registered: Sep 2019
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posted September 20, 2020 04:36 PM
@Liz_Wheeler quote: In 2016, Justice Ginsberg was asked by the NYT if the “Senate had an obligation to assess Judge Garland’s qualifications.”Ginsberg replied: “That’s their job. There’s nothing in the Constitution that says the president stops being president in his last year.”
http://twitter.com/Liz_Wheeler/status/1307382315169923072 IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 15923 From: http://forum.astro.com/cgi/forum.cgi?action=viewprofile;username=u36170365 Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 20, 2020 04:41 PM
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN26B0TN?__twitter_impression=true Majority of Americans think her replacement should be voted on after the election. They want the winner to choose her replacement. I’m a member of a group of people who want the same, on Facebook, and a lot of them are republicans. I even saw someone state that we had some radical left Marxists - - but they want to wait for the winner of the election, before choosing a new justice. IP: Logged |
Dhyana Knowflake Posts: 638 From: US Registered: Sep 2019
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posted September 20, 2020 04:50 PM
quote: Originally posted by Blind writer: Your description of autism is grossly uninformed and insulting. To even suggest that it be removed as a mental health problem and delegated as a “new normal” is to deny medical science. My nephew is autistic, and he will never be able to live a normal or self-sufficient life. He also has feelings, just like anyone. You are literally suggesting that the people who disagree with you politically are dehumanized robots. “That political party”, “their behavior and mindset”, “this current party”, “the republican party has no regard for death” - then you infer they’re autistic. You are “othering” a vast swath of people, approximately half this country. That’s not unifying in the slightest.
Bravo, well said. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 132673 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 20, 2020 05:00 PM
quote: Originally posted by Dhyana: [QUOTE][b]A CNN poll across the board think the Supreme Court seat should be filled. The anchor isn't having it.
Overall: Yes: 67% No: 32% Republicans: Yes: 71% No.: 28% Democrats: Yes: 63% No.: 37% Independents: Yes: 71% No.: 27% http://twitter.com/Christi36145638/status/1307646829593468928 [/B][/QUOTE] That's a poll I can get behind. IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 15274 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 20, 2020 05:15 PM
quote: Originally posted by Randall: That's a poll I can get behind.
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mirage29 Knowflake Posts: 13761 From: us Registered: May 2012
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posted September 20, 2020 05:17 PM
quote: Originally posted by Dhyana: Bravo, well said.
Yes, AGREE IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 15923 From: http://forum.astro.com/cgi/forum.cgi?action=viewprofile;username=u36170365 Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 20, 2020 11:55 PM
http://facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10158579977495449&id=625170448 IP: Logged |
Dhyana Knowflake Posts: 638 From: US Registered: Sep 2019
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posted September 21, 2020 01:52 AM
2020 Democrats should listen to 2016 Democrats [video]Whichever RNC staffer did this deserves a promotion http://twitter.com/ITGuy1959/status/1307877608487628802 IP: Logged |
mirage29 Knowflake Posts: 13761 From: us Registered: May 2012
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posted September 21, 2020 09:38 AM
If he/they cannot show the he 'feels' for America, to hold appreciation and respect for what half-or-more Americans hold dear and in reverence--- If he cannot demonstrate self-control and include being president of ALL Americans, he will 'create a WOUND' in the Heart of Americans, and seal the image and memory of HIM, as one of the most repulsive and despised figures in American History. It will be an 'assault' on the memory of a Woman. Potentially!!, this has the energy of a subliminal pussygrab? It will denigrated a revered WOMAN, as he steps on her carcass, discards, and desecrates her. No conscience. He will have LESS HONOR than EVER!!!! Like I had said, this "moment" is a TEST --- it's an opportunity for him to gain MORE "liking" of himself from over HALF of America, including young people. Will demonstrate a Love of the People? Is it IN him??? That is a MARK of Leadership. A Great Leader would show respect-- is there any greatness in him??? That is the TRUE test. But maybe, he has 'no confidence' that he can win re-election? ... THAT fits this behavior. When you KNOW in reality and fact, and demonstrate confidence in the fact that you're "going to lose" re-election, then, ..... This IS his 'last Chance', before he loses. He will lose MORE than he EVER could imagination if he disrespects her dying wish. Redemption in the eyes of Americans, or is he a Woman's Grave defiler. He has a choice. Self-control. Think. HOW does HE want to be Remembered? Does he want to finish on an Honorable Note? Or is he a candidate to DIS-Honor-- leaving deep revulsion for the 'wound' he would cause? Does he have any honor within him? This will PROVE IT. IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 15274 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 21, 2020 05:03 PM
That does not compute mirage. Dhyana: A CNN poll across the board think the Supreme Court seat should be filled. The anchor isn't having it. Overall: Yes: 67% No: 32% Republicans: Yes: 71% No.: 28% Democrats: Yes: 63% No.: 37% Independents: Yes: 71% No.: 27% IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 15923 From: http://forum.astro.com/cgi/forum.cgi?action=viewprofile;username=u36170365 Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 21, 2020 07:04 PM
quote: Originally posted by Dhyana: [b]2020 Democrats should listen to 2016 Democrats [video]Whichever RNC staffer did this deserves a promotion http://twitter.com/ITGuy1959/status/1307877608487628802 [/B]
I’m not watching this. You wouldn’t listen to 2016 democrats. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 15923 From: http://forum.astro.com/cgi/forum.cgi?action=viewprofile;username=u36170365 Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 21, 2020 07:07 PM
Dems might agree, because pushing through a new justice would look bad for the republicans. I’ve heard that from republicans who think he should hold off. They think more people will vote for Biden, if McConnell looks too greedy. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 15923 From: http://forum.astro.com/cgi/forum.cgi?action=viewprofile;username=u36170365 Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 21, 2020 07:46 PM
http://twitter.com/billkristol/status/1308039148297760770?s=21 IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 15274 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 21, 2020 07:46 PM
quote: Originally posted by teasel: Dems might agree, because pushing through a new justice would look bad for the republicans. I’ve heard that from republicans who think he should hold off. They think more people will vote for Biden, if McConnell looks too greedy.
Even a big majority of democrats think the Supreme Court vacancy should be filled. Dhyana: A CNN poll across the board think the Supreme Court seat should be filled. The anchor isn't having it.
Overall: Yes: 67% No: 32% Republicans: Yes: 71% No.: 28% Democrats: Yes: 63% No.: 37% Independents: Yes: 71% No.: 27%
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teasel Knowflake Posts: 15923 From: http://forum.astro.com/cgi/forum.cgi?action=viewprofile;username=u36170365 Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 21, 2020 11:04 PM
http://twitter.com/rafaelshimunov/status/1308209926444113923?s=21 IP: Logged |