posted March 26, 2021 01:29 AM            

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the right to bear arms is NOT a far right feature. It is embedded in the US constitution.

the right to exercise your religion is NOT a far right feature. It is embedded in the US constitution.

Freedom of expression is embedded in the US constitution.

A lot of the things the republicans are fighting for are embedded in the US constitution. And a lot of the things the democrats are now pushing on the people are against the constitution.

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The right to bear arms is indeed NOT a far right feature. ... The far-right view/mindset resides in not mindfully considering whether or not It SHOULD be embedded in the constitution of the 2021 USA.

posted March 26, 2021 02:03 AM            

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Originally posted by jwhop:
"No, Belage ... I am using it to counter the extreme right wing views that are being expressed by Republicans on this thread/board."

Extreme right wing views?

List a few 'extreme right wing views' expressed on this forum. Go for it.

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Yes ... on reflection, perhaps I should have written "right wing dogma" rather than "extreme right wing views". ... However, my point is that views are being expressed by Republicans on this board which appear (to me) to have not been mindfully considered.

And ... with regard to listing a few such views ... I am now awaiting a response to the following question which I have asked Randall ( at 02.58am on March 26th 2021) on his thread at http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum26/HTML/005622.html :-

"I see that this study was funded with support from the Stanford COVID‐19 Seroprevalence Studies Fund.

Before posting the link to this study here, did your research confirm that those who commissioned and funded it had no influence over the reported findings and conclusions?"

posted March 26, 2021 12:31 PM            

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Originally posted by Graham:
No ... you have given me concrete examples of extreme right views in the US ... which have no valid place in the right-of-centre Republican Party, or in the UK Conservative Party.

So ... for the time being, please consider my comments about far right views in the context of a political system with one main political party elected to be the government and another elected to be the opposition that prevents the creation of government legislation which the average citizen would consider to be too far to the right or left.

Moreover ... please note that, when using the terms Republican and Democrat, I am doing so only as a means of differentiating between the right and left wing Party which tend to form the Government and Opposition in most political systems based upon the UK's "Mother of All Parliaments".

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So if I understand you correctly, you think there is a difference between the far right and the extreme right?

I don't know about the UK. But speaking of the US, I don't really see the difference. Seems like we are getting into semantics.

posted March 26, 2021 12:35 PM            

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Originally posted by Graham:
The right to bear arms is indeed NOT a far right feature. ... The far-right view/mindset resides in not mindfully considering whether or not It SHOULD be embedded in the constitution of the 2021 USA.

The argument/belief that something should not be changed because it is in the constitution lacks objectivity ... and lack of objectivity/rational-thinking is the key ingredient of far-right views.

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I was giving concrete examples of things republicans supported on this forum that perhaps you misconstrue as far right views since you labelled people's opinions here as far right. I was pointing out that these are constitutional viewpoints.

And I do not agree that adherence to the constitution is a key ingredient of far right viewpoint.

posted March 26, 2021 01:04 PM            

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Originally posted by Graham:
Yes ... on reflection, perhaps I should have written "right wing dogma" rather than "extreme right wing views". ... However, my point is that views are being expressed by Republicans on this board which appear (to me) to have not been mindfully considered.

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I want to acknowledge your reflection that using the expression "right wing dogma" is better than using "extreme right wing views". Dogma is something that can plague anyone of us, regardless of political affiliation.

As far as your statement that people here have not mindfully considered their views, well, of course, it is an opinion, to which you are entitled. But I disagree. There are quite a few people here who lead with facts, though their delivery may be controversial.

I am going to relate my experience with Jwhop, whose use of monikers for people he dislikes used to turn me off for years. Obomber and Peelousy to name a few. But one day, I decided to read his entire post which had a link with supporting evidence, maybe the dreaded Breibart, lol. and I checked, and crosschecked through my own research, and found out was true. Contrary to what mainstream media was telling us. This happened on more than one occasion and made me start exploring news outside of our legacy media of NYT and WaPo. And in the process, I discovered so much media manipulation, omissions and outright lies from our legacy media that I experienced a political shift.

posted March 26, 2021 01:14 PM            

Hence, the test of whether one is or is not thinking for himself/ herself is to ask "before I posted this quote to make or support my view ... have I researched the source to confirm that it is not biased?"

posted March 26, 2021 01:25 PM            

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Originally posted by Belage:
I want to acknowledge your reflection that using the expression "right wing dogma" is better than using "extreme right wing views". Dogma is something that can plague anyone of us, regardless of political affiliation.

As far as your statement that people here have not mindfully considered their views, well, of course, it is an opinion, to which you are entitled. But I disagree. There are quite a few people here who lead with facts, though their delivery may be controversial.

I am going to relate my experience with Jwhop, whose use of monikers for people he dislikes used to turn me off for years. Obomber and Peelousy to name a few. But one day, I decided to read his entire post which had a link with supporting evidence, maybe the dreaded Breibart, lol. and I checked, and crosschecked through my own research, and found out was true. Contrary to what mainstream media was telling us. This happened on more than one occasion and made me start exploring news outside of our legacy media of NYT and WaPo. And in the process, I discovered so much media manipulation, omissions and outright lies from our legacy media that I experienced a political shift.

And now I feel that it is the people who are not willing to look at alternative media ho are dogmatic.

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posted March 26, 2021 02:18 PM            

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Originally posted by Graham:
NOW ... you and I appear to be on the same page, Belage. ... But, perhaps I should make it clear that no-one other than the person making a comment/point on this board can know if or not it has been mindfully considered. So I am suggesting only that each of those expressing views on this board should be asking that question of himself/herself - and that readers should be asking them if they have or have not done so.

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Yours is a good suggestion and I can certainly agree with you that each and every single one of us should contemplate and search their heart and mind to see if what they are about to post has been mindfully considered. Unfortunately, being humans, we don't do it or don't do it consistently, but it is an excellent suggestion nonetheless.

posted March 27, 2021 02:29 AM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
I don't know anyone who has a far right mindset, as you call it. Most people in this country are just right of center or just left of center. The far left crowd have certainly hijacked the Democrat party.

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You have what I call a far right mindset, Randall. ...

... But, the "far left crowd" do indeed appear to have highjacked the Democrat party - and the "far right crowd" appear to believe that storming the Capitol is a valid way to express their discontent.

posted March 27, 2021 02:35 AM            

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Originally posted by Belage:
Yours is a good suggestion and I can certainly agree with you that each and every single one of us should contemplate and search their heart and mind to see if what they are about to post has been mindfully considered. Unfortunately, being humans, we don't do it or don't do it consistently, but it is an excellent suggestion nonetheless.

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Thank you for being open-minded enough to listen to my point and making the intellectual effort to "hear" what I have been trying to say.

And I agree that all any of us can do to prevent ourself from acquiring a far right (or far left) mindset is to consciously strive to keep an open-mind.

posted March 27, 2021 12:41 PM            

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Originally posted by Graham:
[b]You have what I call a far right mindset, Randall. ...

... But, the "far left crowd" do indeed appear to have highjacked the Democrat party - and the "far right crowd" appear to believe that storming the Capitol is a valid way to express their discontent.

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No, that is just your opinion, and it’s not a very good one at that. You fall for a very common trap—that of thinking one’s opinions are facts. Opinions can be based upon facts, but they are still just opinions.

posted March 27, 2021 06:34 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
I’m conservative and fall just right of center on the political spectrum. You might want to stick with Astrology and refrain from being a political pundit.

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You are a conservative who holds views that you no longer mindfully consider the validity of. ... That makes you a person with a far right mindset.

posted March 27, 2021 06:42 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
No, that is just your opinion, and it’s not a very good one at that. You fall for a very common trap—that of thinking one’s opinions are facts. Opinions can be based upon facts, but they are still just opinions.

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posted March 27, 2021 06:50 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Nowadays, all sources in the US have a political slant or bias. The key is in whether that affects the accuracy of the reporting of facts. Some media will outright make things up to support their narrative. A good case in point was Walter Cronkite. His political beliefs were quite liberal, but no one would know from his reporting. However, these days, the media doesn’t even try to hide their bias. As for the Constitution, if it’s in there, it is neither far right nor far left. There is a procedure to amend it. Otherwise, the Constitution is the highest law in the land and is free of political bias. How the Courts interpret it is not so unbiased, although, it should be. As far as anti-Biden rhetoric goes, he makes it easy. Biden is in way over his head. Posting articles from Epoch Times or any other source is just a way to reflect on different perspectives of the political madness presently going on in the White House. The immigration crisis is getting worse every day.

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However, it does not relate in any way to the point I am making on this thread about the far right mindset.

posted March 27, 2021 11:13 PM            

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Originally posted by Graham:
@ jwop ... I have now received a reply to the question asked by me of Randall at http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum26/HTML/005622.html .

From that reply, my guess is that his posts on the board will provide many examples of a far right mindset.

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Graham, I have been a member of LindaLand for more than 20 years. Randall is a mainstream Conservative, not an extremist in any of his stated viewpoints, not a racist, not a white supremacist and not a far right adherent. I would place Randall as a right leaning centrist whose viewpoints mirror the majority opinions in America.

I think you're missing the boat with your comments, paying way too much attention to the main stream media, both domestic and foreign, which attempts to paint anyone as a right wing radical extremist who doesn't agree with leftist viewpoints. For instance, 'man made global warming', open borders and illegal alien invasions of the US, abortion on demand, hatred of police and US military and all the rest of the leftist talking points.

But, this is where America really is, politically. Note the Gallup Poll chart shows conservatives and moderates make up 72% of the US population with liberals/leftists far down the scale at only 24%.

In my view, Randall is majority center right.

posted March 27, 2021 11:33 PM            

The extreme right are apparently infiltrating the armed forces, and are still a concern, that some supposed moderate righties aren't paying attention to.

The extreme right in Georgia, just made it illegal to give food and water to people lined up to vote. Trumplicans are doing everything they can to suppress the votes of people who are more likely to vote for the Democrats.

posted March 27, 2021 11:34 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
I don't know anyone who has a far right mindset, as you call it. Most people in this country are just right of center or just left of center. The far left crowd have certainly hijacked the Democrat party.

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posted March 27, 2021 11:36 PM            

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Originally posted by jwhop:
Graham, I have been a member of LindaLand for more than 20 years. Randall is a mainstream Conservative, not an extremist in any of his stated viewpoints, not a racist, not a white supremacist and not a far right adherent. I would place Randall as a right leaning centrist whose viewpoints mirror the majority opinions in America.

I think you're missing the boat with your comments, paying way too much attention to the main stream media, both domestic and foreign, which attempts to paint anyone as a right wing radical extremist who doesn't agree with leftist viewpoints. For instance, 'man made global warming', open borders and illegal alien invasions of the US, abortion on demand, hatred of police and US military and all the rest of the leftist talking points.

But, this where America really is, politically. Note the Gallup Poll chart shows conservatives and moderates make up 72% of the US population with liberals/leftists far down the scale at only 24%.

In my view, Randall is majority center right.

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posted March 28, 2021 12:27 AM            

Friday, March 26, 2021

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll, for Friday shows that 48% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Biden’s job performance. Fifty-one percent (51%) disapprove.

The latest figures include 31% who Strongly Approve of the job Biden is doing and 43% who Strongly Disapprove. This gives him a Presidential Approval Index rating of -12. (see trends)

Much of President Biden’s agenda is unpopular

As a surge of migrants at the U.S.-Mexico border confronts President Joe Biden with a crisis, more Americans than ever say controlling the border is a matter of national security.

The White House has spent weeks denying that the surge of migrants at the U.S.-Mexico border should be called a “crisis,” but two-thirds of voters say it is a crisis.

posted March 28, 2021 01:09 AM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Actually, it does. Open your mind and "see" it.

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Actually, it does not. ... Re-learn how to apply your intellect mindfully. ... Then you might understand the point I am making, which is currently going way above your head.

Unfortunately, that point is not something which can be adequately explained "in a nutshell". ... Hence, the best I can do in that respect is to state "you, Randall, have (in my opinion) become a person with a far right mindset - who first forms his conclusions; then focuses only upon finding evidence to support them - and makes no attempt to confirm the validity/reliability of that evidence."