posted May 16, 2021 11:36 AM            

My sources indicate, it will be complete reboot of the earth.

posted May 16, 2021 12:47 PM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by teasel:
But republicans decided not to give pregnant women $500 a month, during a pandemic, to keep them safe, because life begins at BIRTH.

---

a fetus has all indicators of life before birth, life does not begin at birth

there's no reason for abortion outside of major birth defects and risk of the mother's life (and while i personally disagree with it i can extend that consideration to rape)

with plan b, condoms, birth control and the fact that it's pretty damn near impossible to be unaware you've had sex there's a million ways to avoid letting things get to that point

taking a life is taking a life and outside of dire circumstances there's no reason to do it, i can find killing justifiable so i'm not going to pretend i don't, but failure to prevent or act quickly is complete irresponsibility and someone shouldn't have to die for that

posted May 16, 2021 12:55 PM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by teasel:
But republicans decided not to give pregnant women $500 a month, during a pandemic, to keep them safe, because life begins at BIRTH.

---

posted May 16, 2021 05:33 PM            

Unless I am going to hold someone's hand when the baby is crying at night, give them money to take care of the baby's expenses until adulthood, I will not support outlawing abortion. I do not believe in forcing people to be parent. I loved being a parent, but it was an incredible challenge and it called for the highest in me. I can imagine some people would put the lowest of themselves into this challenge and hurt their children.

posted May 16, 2021 05:54 PM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by Dumuzi:
a fetus has all indicators of life before birth, life does not begin at birth

there's no reason for abortion outside of major birth defects and risk of the mother's life (and while i personally disagree with it i can extend that consideration to rape)

with plan b, condoms, birth control and the fact that it's pretty damn near impossible to be unaware you've had sex there's a million ways to avoid letting things get to that point

taking a life is taking a life and outside of dire circumstances there's no reason to do it, i can find killing justifiable so i'm not going to pretend i don't, but failure to prevent or act quickly is complete irresponsibility and someone shouldn't have to die for that

there are even places that offer **** like plan b and condoms for free so how is 6 weeks not enough time?

---

I'm always going to be pro-choice. My mother made the decision, and it was a difficult one for her. I have friends who also made that decision, and it was the right thing for them.

posted May 16, 2021 05:56 PM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by shura:
lol Even Rashid didn't say lie and claim it was 500 a month. It was part of Trump's one time stimulus payment - 500 per child. Did democrats support giving the extra $500 per child to pregnant women? Do you?

---

posted May 16, 2021 06:11 PM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by Dumuzi:
a fetus has all indicators of life before birth, life does not begin at birth

there's no reason for abortion outside of major birth defects and risk of the mother's life (and while i personally disagree with it i can extend that consideration to rape)

with plan b, condoms, birth control and the fact that it's pretty damn near impossible to be unaware you've had sex there's a million ways to avoid letting things get to that point

taking a life is taking a life and outside of dire circumstances there's no reason to do it, i can find killing justifiable so i'm not going to pretend i don't, but failure to prevent or act quickly is complete irresponsibility and someone shouldn't have to die for that

there are even places that offer **** like plan b and condoms for free so how is 6 weeks not enough time?

---

posted May 16, 2021 06:27 PM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by Belage:
I cannot get behind that. Abortion is a very complex issue.

Unless I am going to hold someone's hand when the baby is crying at night, give them money to take care of the baby's expenses until adulthood, I will not support outlawing abortion. I do not believe in forcing people to be parent. I loved being a parent, but it was an incredible challenge and it called for the highest in me. I can imagine some people would put the lowest of themselves into this challenge and hurt their children.

I do believe it is a crime, but I prefer to leave it on the mother's conscience.

---

well this bill technically still allows for abortion 🤷‍♀️ years ago abortion being a right for a longer period of time made more sense than it does now when there really aren't many excuses

when plan b, condoms, birth control etc are widely available and can even be given to someone for free it's not really reasonable to say that there's no options for these women

literally plenty of them beforehand

@teasel

when your mother made that choice the things i've listed were not as accessible (and plan b was first available in '97 so... doubt she had access) but they are now

posted May 16, 2021 07:26 PM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by Belage:
I cannot get behind that. Abortion is a very complex issue.

Unless I am going to hold someone's hand when the baby is crying at night, give them money to take care of the baby's expenses until adulthood, I will not support outlawing abortion. I do not believe in forcing people to be parent. I loved being a parent, but it was an incredible challenge and it called for the highest in me. I can imagine some people would put the lowest of themselves into this challenge and hurt their children.

... I prefer to leave it on the mother's conscience.

---

posted May 16, 2021 09:30 PM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by teasel:
lol I believe you were fine with women being executed if they had an abortion. Gross.

---

Youre avoiding the question. Why? I'll ask again.

Did democrats support giving the extra $500 per child to pregnant women? Do you?

Why are you claiming the proposed amount why 500 per month?

posted May 17, 2021 07:14 PM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by teasel:
http://apnews.com/articl e/supreme-court-abortion-15-week-ban-5d066a9dc0030a4f8297711f341c9f5a?utm_medium=AP&utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=SocialFlow

My body, my choice, when it comes to a ******* mask. But pregnancy? Pfft.

---

posted May 17, 2021 07:50 PM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by teasel:
I’m not going to be available for LL snarking purposes. My dad has something stuck in his throat/chest area, and it’s freaking me out. So no “teasel believes this/doesn’t believe that” or jokes about my having a headache. Don’t bother. No calling me out in threads I haven’t seen, either.

---

posted May 17, 2021 11:28 PM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by teasel:
So no “teasel believes this/doesn’t believe that” or jokes about my having a headache. Don’t bother.

---

Rather than claiming "teasel believes this ...", Ive twice asked for clarification on this matter and you twice avoided the question.

posted May 20, 2021 08:58 PM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by teasel:
http://twitter.com/MollyJongFast/status/1395182499744059397?s=20

---

putting him to death sure is the equivalent of not using condoms, birth control, or plan b then waiting months to kill an unborn child

edit: that excerpt is from this article btw

SuchANiceMan

are you honestly going to pretend that's he's equivalent to a baby?

posted May 21, 2021 01:17 AM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by Chanterelle:
I’ll build on this, and say that the idea of legislating the “right to life” without first ensuring the means to a decent life is hypocritical and dumb. I’ve known people who aged out of the foster system with no support, and I’ve known people whose children were taken from them because they were poor and living out of a car. I’m glad I had the choice, and without a supportive family I might very well have chosen differently at 19. I think that bodily autonomy and a well-developed conscience go hand in hand. (I was thinking all this on the drive home, only to find that my son has given himself a mullet. Go figure.)

---

Very true. Reminded me of this
https://twitter.com/wittelstephanie/status/1128617741534019584?s=20

posted May 22, 2021 05:24 AM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by teasel:
http://twitter.com/GeoRebekah/status/1395928595474825217?s=20

---

last i checked there's no law that forces 14 year olds to marry rapists

and rape in what sense? 4 year age gap or actual nonconsensual sex? huge difference there, high school seniors and high school freshmen dating happens 🤷‍♀️ teenagers having sex also happens

suicide is tragic but to insist that was that cause of her suicide is pretty ****** up (they were not together at the time, her father also committed suicide and anyone who knows about mental health knows a family history can increase chances) what a disgusting/presumptuous thing for someone to even say

edit:,btw i'm not really sure why this is an argument against the texas bill (aside from being completely unrelated)which still allows for abortion, pregnancy is detectable earlier than 6 weeks

so if someone wants to kill their unborn child they have time to do it if they decided birth control, plan b, and condoms weren't worth their time and they had to go with that

economic argument is poor too because low income women/girls are less likely to abort statistically, also if they have no access to free/low cost contraceptives that are readily available to many people they likely don't have access to an abortion

let's not forget that getting an abortion can damage a woman's ability to have a kid later

also i personally knew a girl who was forced into having an abortion by her family at 16 because they were going to send her away otherwise, the experience deeply scarred her (she didn't want to do it) so this **** can work both ways

because to my knowledge marriage at 14 required parental consent and they were likely pushed by their families to marry, so sure that's an unfortunate situation but so are cases where someone is forced by their parents to get an abortion when those are an option and had there been permanent damage to her ability to have a child later in life then what? that's acceptable?