posted September 15, 2025 02:15 PM            

Makes no sense!

I personally do not support affirmative action and DEI. They are the reason why people question a black person's qualifications when they see them in a school or in a job. People assume you are there in that position because they lowered the standard for you. So why are we fighting for DEI again???

posted September 15, 2025 02:27 PM            

It needs to stop. 🛑

And the Black On Black certainly needs to stop as well.

posted September 15, 2025 02:56 PM            

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Originally posted by Belage2:
If white women are the biggest recipients of DEI, why are black people fighting tooth and nail for DEI?????

Makes no sense!

I personally do not support affirmative action and DEI. They are the reason why people question a black person's qualifications when they see them in a school or in a job. People assume you are there in that position because they lowered the standard for you. So why are we fighting for DEI again???

Okay, I am done for today!

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White Women are indeed the biggest recipients of Affirmative Action. 💅🏾 This has been public knowledge for many years now. And yet people like Kirk never accused these women of "not being qualified" ever.

Soo... why are some White People ONLY upset when others are included? Why are White Farmers now crying and offing themselves because Trump is no longer subsidizing welfare for their farms? The same welfare that they didn't want Black People to have? 🤔 Hmmm, I'll wait.

So, again. Miss me with these strange double standards.

At most of the jobs that I have worked, my abilities and qualifications have NEVER been questioned. And I will turn down jobs if something feels OFF. I've also never felt the need to "earn the approval" of White People like you do Belage. Because I don't give a damn about that. ✨️ They are not above NOR beneath me! I'm just authentically myself and that attracts genuine respect from others. If I do happen to get a wiff of ANY kind of prejudice - I will quickly cut ties with and discard them.

Maybe you should do the same. 👍 Instead of internalizing the mentality of the hateful people who have made you feel less than and like you *must* prove yourself at all times. As long as you insist on this one-sided accountability, you will always be on the outs with other Black People, girl. And I don't want that for you. As it really sucks.

posted September 15, 2025 03:26 PM            

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Originally posted by Belage2:

HOUSTON, WE HAVE A PROBLEM!

The fact that we are the most likely to die by homicide (perpetrated by other blacks) should be a more urgent issue for US BLACK PEOPLE then to hyperventilate that Charlie Kirk, the messenger, is not focusing on the number of whites committing shooting. The whites are not dying by homicide like we do!

But as usual, we prefer to focus on the wrong things. As a black person, whenever irl I have tried to talk about the issue of crime with other blacks, I have been called self-hating, and every foul name but a child of God.

It is always easier to point the finger at others for our woes, instead of doing self-examination and see what one can do to fix an issue, but that would require work, self-work, which apparently is too much, so let's go for the easier option, pointing fingers at others and blaming them for our own depravity!

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You are very fixated on just ONE part of the equation Belage. So it does indeed come across very self-hating because of it. I cannot lie. Like you want a scooby snack and a pat on the head from White Conservatives for "holding your people accountable" and whatnot. 🤷🏾‍♀️ When they won't even hold their own accountable for ALL of these horrid mass shootings that keep taking place! But of course, you take NO issue with that. And I don't do hypocrisy.

I personally take issue with BOTH.

I'm against the types of Black Men who murder each other, abuse Black Women and abandon their children. 💯 Who blame *all* of their troubles and twisted actions on racism.

I'm against the types of White Men who mass shoot up schools, churches, rallies, etc and kill Public Figures. The ones who eat their human victims. Or molest children. 💯 And have the Klan Mentality of their wicked ancestors.

I'm against millions of illegals flooding our country. But I am *not* against Latinos at large. 💯 Same for any other group.

I voted for Obama.
I voted for Trump.

I have NO loyalty to either one of these corrupt a$$ political parties.

I've dated White Republicans. Some even wanted to marry me! 🩷 We had healthy, candid discussions about Race. Neither of us had an Us VS Them Mentality. We kept it real about where BOTH sides were going wrong. Like mature adults are supposed to damn do. 💅🏾

I've dated the rainbow! And dated Black Men as well. 👍 And I've enjoyed both. I have a very diverse circle of friends and associates. Therefore, I've been able to actually *experience* a variety of different people, instead of going solely by what I saw on TV or by what some other sheltered person told me who never truly mingles with the group that they are bashing. 🤷🏾‍♀️ Is what it is.

FYI - there are people that I absolutely cannot stand in EVERY race. Including my own.

So... please STOP regurgitating the same singular talking point to me like some broken AI Robot at a backwoods MAGA rally, Belage. 🛑

"Black Crime" and Charlie's Behavior are two completely separate issues. The former does not excuse the latter.

Charlie Kirk said a number of truly racist things that were highly uncalled for. Plain and simple. 🙄 He was spreading a message of hate. Not one of love and unity and holding EACH OTHER acccountable across the board. Again - like a real Christian would have.

His far-right supporters are needlessly "pointing the finger" at Black People for their woes. When we don't have ANYTHING to do with that man being shot. And in most cases, we don't even interact with or live around these kinds of people! 🤣 Talk about delusional obsession. They aren't doing ANY self-reflection either. So, miss me with your odd double standards.

posted September 15, 2025 03:32 PM            

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Originally posted by LovelyAries86:
You are very fixated on just ONE part of the equation Belage. So it does indeed come across very self-hating because of it. I cannot lie. Like you want a scooby snack and a pat on the head from White Conservatives for "holding your people accountable" and whatnot. 🤷🏾‍♀️ When they won't even hold their own accountable for ALL of these horrid mass shootings that keep taking place! But of course, you take NO issue with that. And I don't do hypocrisy.

I personally take issue with BOTH.

I'm against the types of Black Men who murder each other, abuse Black Women and abandon their children. 💯 Who blame *all* of their troubles and twisted actions on racism.

I'm against the types of White Men who mass shoot up schools, churches, rallies, etc and kill Public Figures. The ones who eat their human victims. Or molest children. 💯 And have the Klan Mentality of their wicked ancestors.

I'm against millions of illegals flooding our country. But I am *not* against Latinos at large. 💯 Same for any other group.

I voted for Obama.
I voted for Trump.

I have NO loyalty to either one of these corrupt a$$ political parties.

I've dated White Republicans. Some even wanted to marry me! 🩷 We had healthy, candid discussions about Race. Neither of us had an Us VS Them Mentality. We kept it real about where BOTH sides were going wrong. Like mature adults are supposed to do. 💅🏾

I've dated the rainbow! And dated Black Men as well. 👍 And I've enjoyed both. I have a very diverse circle of friends and associates. Therefore, I've been able to actually *experience* a variety of different people, instead of going solely by what I saw on TV or by what some other sheltered person told me who never truly mingles with the group that they are bashing. 🤷🏾‍♀️ Is what it is.

FYI - there are people that I absolutely cannot stand in EVERY race. Including my own.

So... please STOP regurgitating the same singular talking point to me like some broken AI Robot at a backwoods MAGA rally, Belage. 🛑

"Black Crime" and Charlie's Behavior are two completely separate issues. The former does not excuse the latter.

Charlie Kirk said a number of truly racist things that were highly uncalled for. Plain and simple. 🙄 He was spreading a message of hate. Not one of love and unity and holding EACH OTHER acccountable across the board. Again - like a real Christian would have.

His far-right supporters are needlessly "pointing the finger" at Black People for their woes. When we don't have ANYTHING to do with that man being shot. And in most cases, we don't even interact with or live around these kinds of people! 🤣 Talk about delusional obsession. They aren't doing ANY self-reflection either. So, miss me with your odd double standards.

If you sincerely co-sign this mess, we are NOT of the same ilk. ✨️ And have nothing in common Belage. Regardless of us sharing the same skin tone. And that's just fine with me.

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posted September 16, 2025 02:30 AM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Here’s the (out of) context:

which Kirk named these four Black women and said these words, adding that the admission that they had benefited from affirmative action amounted to a confession that they were not bright enough to reach prominence on their own merits

If we would have said three weeks ago […] that Joy Reid and Michelle Obama and Sheila Jackson Lee and Ketanji Brown Jackson were affirmative-action picks, we would have been called racist. But now they're coming out and they're saying it for us! They're coming out and they're saying, "I'm only here because of affirmative action."

Yeah, we know. You do not have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously. You had to go steal a white person's slot to go be taken somewhat seriously.

Kirk then played a clip of Jackson Lee speaking in Congress, saying she had been admitted to educational institutions on affirmative action. Kirk then went on to make his point again:

We know. We know. It's very obvious to us you are not smart enough to be able to get it on your own. "I could not make it on my own, so I needed to take opportunities from someone more deserving.”
http://www.snopes.com/fact-check/charlie-kirk-black-women/

More lies from the left, or in your case, an inability to fully comprehend what you are reading. So, in essence, Kirk was merely making a dramatic point (for effect) about each of those Black women greatly benefiting from affirmative action (because they admitted as much), which he then interpreted that as THEM saying those misquoted words. I’ll add another one for more of an example. Elizabeth Warren claimed to be Native American to get into college (taking up a slot from a more deserving person. If she thought she could have gotten accepted on her own merits, she wouldn’t have lied! By doing so, she was admitting that she wasn’t smart enough to get accepted by her scores. Kirk wasn’t saying those words himself. Do you understand? Michelle was very recently asked if she would ever marry someone poor, and her reply was: “I did.” Insinuating that she got where she is today by attaching herself to Obama through marriage. Is it racist to reframe someone’s very own words about themself? The illustrious SCOTUS nominee is way out of her league. Her comment about space aliens showed just how far. And let’s not forget about her not being able to define what a woman is because she is “not a biologist.” But we don’t have to speculate about how she got the job. Biden admitted that he was going to give the nomination to a Black woman.

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posted September 16, 2025 02:40 AM            

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Originally posted by Belage2:
I usually do not bother with your posts, but since this is a thread I started, I will just THIS ONCE, take the time to answer, in honor of Charlie who talked to EVERYONE who was willing to engage him. He had more patience then me.
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None of the women Charlie Kirk mentioned have disclosed their SAT scores, which is the score that is used for admittance to those Ivy leagues.

If those women had had high SAT scores THAT MERITED ADMITTANCE REGARDLESS OF RACES, they would have PROUDLY disclosed them! THEY WOULD HAVE SHOUTED THEM TO THE ROOFTOP!!! They are bold, brash, vocal and "proud" Black women.

Therefore, I and everyone else can rightly assume their SAT scores did not meet the mark and their race was THE factor, as these schools practice affirmative actions as we all know.

And I have listened to those women speak, and frankly, I do not think they are the sharpest pencils in the box. So I agree with Charlie! AND I would even add that they stole "a White OR ASIAN person's slot".

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Demanding that black women disclose their SAT scores but not Trump? If someone is privileged and deserves to be scrutinized for their intellectual capabilities it's him. DEI was always intended to level the playing field because rich white men cling to their privileges until their last breath. They're the ones getting jobs while being unqualified just because of their skin color and family connections. Look at the entire Trump administration, a bunch of incompetents that just got the job because Trump can't handle criticism.

posted September 16, 2025 04:30 AM            

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Originally posted by PlutoWasHere:
And there you go, defending blatant racism. He doesn't say that a particular person is [b]unqualified and DEI caused them to push out a qualified person. He literally says they are black women that are unqualified and therefore are taking a white person's job. He's clearly insinuating that no black woman is qualified enough to do those jobs. That is racism, and you know it. You're trying to make right what is obviously wrong. [/B]

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Accurate. 💯

He said that Black Women didn't have the "brain processing power" to be in these types of positions. When the majority of his followers have the IQ of a goldfish swimming in feces.

posted September 16, 2025 07:58 AM            

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Originally posted by Belage2:
I need to address the accusations of racism leveled at CK. Because they are some of the ways the left demonized him and made it ok for unstable antifas to shoot him dead.

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posted September 16, 2025 07:59 AM            

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Originally posted by Belage2:
I am leaving this thread here to counteract some of the vile lies and misinformations that have been made about this man. They take snipets of what he has said without including the context.

Unfortunately, most of the Left's foot soldiers do not do any research of their own, they just parrot mainstream media's points.

And I will bump it when need be.

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posted September 16, 2025 08:00 AM            

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Originally posted by PlutoWasHere:
I don't have to agree with everything that Charlie Kirk said. I think that some of opinions are downright immoral. Like the great replacement theory. That's an absolutely hateful conspiracy theory aimed towards all people that are "different". Different religion, different color, different culture, different anything...

That still doesn't mean I wanted him dead. It's not normal to want to punish someone for having a different opinion. Never have I ever called for someone's death based on their opinion. Not on this forum, not anywhere else. But I do call out moral hypocrisy. I do call out historical parallels and patterns. That's not the same as inciting violence. Like someone actually did on January 6th. And is doing now, as a distraction from the absolute sh1tshow his presidency is.

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posted September 16, 2025 08:03 AM            

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Originally posted by Belage2:
I usually do not bother with your posts, but since this is a thread I started, I will just THIS ONCE, take the time to answer, in honor of Charlie who talked to EVERYONE who was willing to engage him. He had more patience then me.
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None of the women Charlie Kirk mentioned have disclosed their SAT scores, which is the score that is used for admittance to those Ivy leagues.

If those women had had high SAT scores THAT MERITED ADMITTANCE REGARDLESS OF RACES, they would have PROUDLY disclosed them! THEY WOULD HAVE SHOUTED THEM TO THE ROOFTOP!!! They are bold, brash, vocal and "proud" Black women.

Therefore, I and everyone else can rightly assume their SAT scores did not meet the mark and their race was THE factor, as these schools practice affirmative actions as we all know.

And I have listened to those women speak, and frankly, I do not think they are the sharpest pencils in the box. So I agree with Charlie! AND I would even add that they stole "a White OR ASIAN person's slot".

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WTF Belage. What the actual **** .

posted September 16, 2025 08:08 AM            

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Originally posted by Belage2:
By the way, let's get clear on one thing.

Kirk's killing was not white on white crime. It was a political assassination!

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That’s still white on white crime.

By the way, remember when I’d just woken up on Wednesday evening, asked why you were upset about Charlie Kirk, and Randall accused me of lying about not knowing? He claimed that the left had been celebrating, and when I looked everything up, I saw democrats condemning it, when we didn’t even know who the shooter was.

posted September 16, 2025 09:16 AM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
You’re lying, teasel. You’re about as far left as it gets. Those people were and are celebrating. You know it. You knew it.

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posted September 16, 2025 11:11 AM            

Black on Black crime which makes blacks 51% of the homicide victims in this country IS A BIGGER EVIL THAN WHITE ON WHITE CRIME, no matter how you slice and dice it.

So, if we really care about black lives as we claim, let's fix the issue instead of deflecting and wishful thinking. All I have seen for the likes of you is:

posted September 16, 2025 11:20 AM            

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Originally posted by LovelyAries86:

White Women are indeed the biggest recipients of Affirmative Action. 💅🏾 This has been public knowledge for many years now. And yet people like Kirk never accused these women of "not being qualified" ever.

Soo... why are some White People ONLY upset when others are included? Why are White Farmers now crying and offing themselves because Trump is no longer subsidizing welfare for their farms? The same welfare that they didn't want Black People to have? 🤔 Hmmm, I'll wait.

So, again. Miss me with these strange double standards.

At most of the jobs that I have worked, my abilities and qualifications have NEVER been questioned. And I will turn down jobs if something feels OFF. I've also never felt the need to "earn the approval" of White People like you do Belage. Because I don't give a damn about that. ✨️ They are not above NOR beneath me! I'm just authentically myself and that attracts genuine respect from others. If I do happen to get a wiff of ANY kind of prejudice - I will quickly cut ties with and discard them.

Maybe you should do the same. 👍 Instead of internalizing the mentality of the hateful people who have made you feel less than and like you *must* prove yourself at all times. As long as you insist on this one-sided accountability, you will always be on the outs with other Black People, girl. And I don't want that for you. As it really sucks.

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You have still to answer my question: If white women are the biggest recipients of DEI, why are black people like YOU fighting tooth and nail to keep DEI?

As for white farmers supposedly offing themselves, where is that?? Where do you get your news? MSNBC? NPR? CNN? The farmers markets in my area and in many areas I know of are thriving!!!

As for your attempts at personal attacks on me, saying I need to "earn the approval of White People", and in another post, I want "a scooby snack and a pat on the head from White conservatives" this is the kind of statements that do not elevate conversations, but I have heard them all and worse when I debate in Black spaces. It is a given, par with the course. You are not regurgitating anything new or creative, just smug and racialized comments and you think you are debating.

You know absolutely nothing about me, my life, my work experience, other than I think differently than you. And in the Black community, anyone that does not follow a certain way of thinking is ... oh well, you know the epithets...

posted September 16, 2025 11:31 AM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
That young man came from one of the reddest states, a MAGA family, and was raised around weapons. Of course you’ve labelled him antifa.

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posted September 16, 2025 11:38 AM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
That’s still white on white crime.

By the way, remember when I’d just woken up on Wednesday evening, asked why you were upset about Charlie Kirk, and Randall accused me of lying about not knowing? He claimed that the left had been celebrating, and when I looked everything up, I saw democrats condemning it, when we didn’t even know who the shooter was.

We did not see the same from “the right” when the democrats were assassinated in June. Trump didn’t make calls, and skipped the funeral, seeing it all as a waste of time. Nobody declared war on the right. We didn’t do anything like we’ve seen from the right, since Wednesday.

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posted September 16, 2025 11:44 AM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
If anything terrible happens to me, I do hope you guys will say, “we disagreed on a lot of things, but she was a good human being who had a family, and the right to her own opinions” instead of what I fully expect from you: “ding, dong, the witch is dead” because I disagreed with you, and don’t like trump.

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First of all, I sincerely hope nothing happens to you.

Secondly, if anything happened to you, we would not know about it because we do not know your real name. We would just notice that you're not posting anymore, like many people who have stopped posting...

posted September 16, 2025 11:53 AM            

Denying the issue and blaming it on racism and poverty will not fix it. This is an internal problem that can only be fixed by Black people taking responsibility and agency for their lives, and CARING ENOUGH ABOUT EACH OTHER.

DEI
I believe DEI is racism disguised as anti-racism. Anytime you hire someone based on their race, it is racism, and I don't care what kind of justification you find for it.
And if white women are supposedly the main ones benefiting from DEI, then why are Blacks fighting to keep DEI? We are fighting to benefit Becky now?

posted September 16, 2025 01:55 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
That would be like me saying that I go to the movie theater every day and have never seen popcorn.

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LOL