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posted November 21, 2010 09:48 PM         

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Do you feel it's necessary to get someone back when they really hurt you? Or, do you feel better when you forget about revenge, and just forgive and move on with your life?

Is a little Revenge healthy, or not at all?

How far have you gone to get revenge? Be honest.

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posted November 21, 2010 09:52 PM         

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Forgiveness doesn't always come easily, but I'm not one for revenge. I've dealt with bullies before, and didn't want to treat anyone in the way they'd treated me.

I absolutely lost it with one guy, but do I want him hurt? No, I don't.

I also didn't mean to hurt your feelings, if I did, and appreciated your post to me last night, in the thread about age gaps in relationships. I should have said that I didn't like the encouragement for anyone, including mods, to call people names. I thought that was out of order, just like the behaviour that got two or more people banned.

I have the Scorpio ascendant that supposedly loves stinging people; it doesn't. It doesn't like seeing its friends get stung, either. Moon/Venus/South Node in the 8th. Sun in Aries.

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posted November 21, 2010 11:06 PM         

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Revenge is something I steer clear from because it doesn't help the situation at all.
It's better to go inward and face yourself than to lash out at others...

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posted November 21, 2010 11:22 PM         

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Revenge like Jealousy.
Illogical.
Waste of time and energy.

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posted November 21, 2010 11:27 PM         

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I exact revenge for poor thinking sometimes. People often engage in poor thinking, and if the opportunity presents itself, I will correct it.

The older I get, the wiser I get about choosing my battles. Karma will do some of the work for you even if you don't get involved. The litmus for me is often circumstantial.

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posted November 22, 2010 12:17 AM         

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I have a different view on Karma than most people. It's complicated. lol But I have to be careful, as I experience instant Karma. The Universe always presents me oppportunities for revenge. It's usually placed right in my lap. I try to say no. I usually take the high road. People always get what they have coming sooner or later. I'm always protected from harm no matter what. But sometimes people need to learn a harsh lesson. It's not so much vengeance as it is a public service.

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From: Pluto, next to Ami Ann
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posted November 22, 2010 01:06 AM         

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i think i'm too biased to answer this particular question

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posted November 22, 2010 01:09 AM         

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I exact revenge for poor thinking sometimes. People often engage in poor thinking, and if the opportunity presents itself, I will correct it.

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The older I get, the wiser I get about choosing my battles. Karma will do some of the work for you even if you don't get involved.

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The Universe always presents me oppportunities for revenge. It's usually placed right in my lap. I try to say no. I usually take the high road. People always get what they have coming sooner or later. I'm always protected from harm no matter what. But sometimes people need to learn a harsh lesson. It's not so much vengeance as it is a public service.

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These gents have said it perfectly for me.

I can be quite vengeful. But I have learned to stay the course and wait for the judgement to be exacted on my behalf. Karma is SO just.

Too just in fact. Even one as favored as myself isn't immune (in general, I think I am quite charmed). I was riding my horse a bit too high of late though, and basking in the comeuppance of my enemies, and got knocked down a peg or two myself. Just enough to get my skirts dirty. I needed the gentle reminder not to take fortune for granted.

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From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
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posted November 22, 2010 07:57 AM         

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It's not so much vengeance as it is a public service.

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posted November 22, 2010 08:03 AM         

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I would WANT to get revenge.
I would want to tear their head off.
I would force myself to flip in to the better part of myself and to forgive.
I may never get there but I would keep trying like lifting weights.
I may never pick up the hundred pound one but it is aspirational

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posted November 22, 2010 09:20 AM           

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No, i'm not into revenge. People are with me and they get instant karma from it. I've seen it happen where people will try to destroy me through revenge and their whole lives just collapse financially and health wise.
I have 2 guardian angels looking after me so l am unaffected and protected from any negativity.

Revenge is not an option; it's a weakness.

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posted November 22, 2010 09:49 AM         

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Never ask a Scorpio about revenge.

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posted November 22, 2010 10:02 AM         

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Hmmmmmm.

Being totaly honest, yes and I can take great pleasure out of it too. I'm not going to say that I don't seek revenge to look like a better person or feel better about myself, no. I think there are different levels of revenge.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not malicious or hurt people in my act of weakness, nor do I prescribe someone a gun to blow another ones knees off because they robbed a plant pot out of their garden, not at all. I am aware this could be seen as a personality flaw, but at least I have a good understanding of myself and not in denial. I like to think about it as dealing out the karma where it's due!

I know some of you are going to hit the roof when you peruse my reply, but realisticaly, everybody does it in different ways.

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posted November 22, 2010 10:03 AM         

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Never ask a Scorpio about revenge.

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I am Scorpio.
I do not do revenge.
I helped my ex husbands find their new wives,
even though they deserved to be revenged upon.
I forgave the crack addict who chased me at gunpoint, made me fall and break ribs.
During a time of crisis for her a few weeks later;
I talked with her, held her and had compassion for her, even whilst still unhealed and in pain from the injuries she caused to me, injuries that took over 10 years to heal right.
Revenge never solves anything.
I must be a weird Scorpio.
~Getting off the Karmic "Payback Wheel"~...version 2

~Getting off the Karmic "Payback Wheel"~...original version
Do I think of revenge?
Of course I do at times in the heat of the moment.
However is sickens me very deeply on my soul level.
It disgusts me.
I simply refuse to act upon such illogical and primal urges.
It is cleansing and freeing to let it go.
Love thy enemies, send them Love and Blessings.
In the small and big picture, love is indeed the key.

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posted November 22, 2010 10:24 AM         

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"The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong." - Mahatma Gandhi

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posted November 22, 2010 11:51 AM         

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Scorpios, or people with strong Pluto, can be either the dirtiest ******** on the planet, or the kind to pick you up off the street when no one else would even spit on you and help you turn your life around.

Your choice. And theirs.

LEXX, you are definitely the Phoenix type of Scorpio.

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posted November 22, 2010 11:52 AM         

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B*stards triggered the profanity filter?

LOL! Since Sweet Peas opened I have been triggering the profanity filters left and right! I am not a profane person, I swear.

It must be bringing something out in me.

Sorry Randall.

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posted November 22, 2010 11:55 AM         

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or the kind to pick you up off the street when no one else would even spit on you and help you turn your life around.

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Yep. But you have to be careful who you let in. Some will get up and screw you over, as soon as they can. I used to think everyone was worthy of love and attention.

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posted November 22, 2010 02:47 PM           

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I picked someone up off the street once who was lying in the gutter, heartbroken and destroyed. I helped her turn her life around by giving her hope.
Funnily enough, she was a Scorpio not me

We were great friends until she slept with a married man at my party, whose wife had just had a kid!

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From: Pluto, next to Ami Ann
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posted November 22, 2010 02:59 PM         

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did she know the woman whos husband she slept with, lara?

or was she just socrned and broken?

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posted November 22, 2010 03:27 PM         

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I don't believe in taking revenge on those that have hurt me because I believe that success is the best form of revenge.

I cut them totally out of my life and move on, but I don't forget the hurts. I keep them in my mental file box so that when I meet someone that has the same traits I immediately steer clear of them.

That said, when bad things happen to someone that has done something horrible to me (and there are very few that have) I don't feel bad for their karma and I do wish they learn the lesson from it.

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posted November 22, 2010 04:03 PM         

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i agree with linda that the highest type of scorpio is the eagle or phoenix, who has learned that POWER OVER ONESELF is the only power worth cultivating.

"doling out the karma" is all well and good, but then you are picking up their karma to pay for it later.

i have given as good as someone tries to throw at me, i do not hesitate to argue, but revenge saps the spirit and does NOT rub out karma, just keeps it going back and forth.

there is something to be said however, for taking on the school bully, for instance, preferably in full view of others, as long as you make sure you come off the winner...this provides an example for the bully and others that you are not to be messed with. then you can protect others who tend to be victims of bullies without ever having to get personally "involved" again. that is NOT revenge but self-defense!

most of the scorpios i know who are worth knowing override any instincts for revenge and transmute them to something more healthy...like LEXX.

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posted November 22, 2010 05:47 PM         

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Yep yep, that's the lesson Scorps are here to learn this time 'round.

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posted November 22, 2010 11:52 PM         

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I don't normally have a desire to get revenge.
On the other hand there are certain things and behaviors that I don't think people should simply get away with. If they did get away with it, they wouldn't be deterred from doing it all over again.

It's like - if a child broke something valuable intentionally, you would give him/her time out.
I don't see this as punishment or revenge - just normal retribution so that the child understands that this behaviour is not ok, and that all actions have consequences.

If there were no consequences, the child could continue breaking things. It would progressively get worse in time... It always does.. so they'd start thinking it was perfectly fine to do this when angry.. and maybe break things in another person's home and so forth.

So retribution is important.

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posted November 23, 2010 01:58 AM         

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StarrofVenusGirl
katatonic
Thank you both for the kind words!

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