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posted March 10, 2011 08:34 AM            

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I think I've been let down by men more than anyone in my life, so I am harder on men, but lately, for example when I talk to my gf about her relationships, I try to put myself in a man shoes and doing that I can see how I'm starting to not be so hard. Me talking to my father helps a lot too, especially now that we get along and he shows affection

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posted March 10, 2011 09:57 AM            

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Anglerfish
I like your signature line.

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He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster.
And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you."- Friedrich Nietzsche. ASC 29 Scorpio...
Late Degree Scorpio Rising FTW!!!

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I posted this at YWATA:

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Aphorism 146 (1886)

He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster.
And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you.

My response to that Aphorism is this:

The abyss can see only the good in me,
and so therefore,
I fear not the monsters nor the abyss.
~LEXX

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posted March 10, 2011 10:09 AM            

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This brings me to another question which is a WHOLE other question lol
How are men and woman similar?
How are they different?

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Jesus never put his trust in man cuz he knew what was in man.
He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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posted March 10, 2011 11:25 AM            

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I think men and women are more alike than different, but those similarities make the subtle differences especially treacherous.

If you'd like to explore the differences in how men & women act & think then I strongly recommend this book:
http://www9.georgetown.edu/faculty/tannend/book_you_just_dont.html

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posted March 10, 2011 11:34 AM            

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Thank you ((Pixie)))
I like how you write, express yourself.
That is interesting you wanted to be a librarian

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Jesus never put his trust in man cuz he knew what was in man.
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posted March 10, 2011 12:30 PM            

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Tough question.

The people you feel betrayed by the most are the ones you wished to put the most trust in...right?

Also, is there a difference in intention? Does that factor in to things for you? Do you forgive the flaky guy, because he doesn't intend to be flaky? Do you not forgive the woman, because she intentionally flaked in reaction to something you did?

No person is perfect in every moment, because no person can convey the totality of their being in a moment. Our communication tools aren't sufficient.

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posted March 10, 2011 12:38 PM            

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Neither

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posted March 14, 2011 09:21 AM            

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Originally posted by Mblake81:
Neither

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Agreed.

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posted March 14, 2011 09:30 AM            

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To the people who put neither, were you betrayed by both parents?

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posted March 14, 2011 09:53 AM            

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No.

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posted March 14, 2011 10:08 AM            

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My father was trustworthy.I have all good Sun aspects.
In fact , they are outstanding.
I have a hard moon aspect and other than that,it is unaspected.
My chart shows my reality with my parents.

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posted March 14, 2011 12:33 PM            

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↑ That's been my experience too Ami. Weird thing though, one of my bro's also have hard Moon aspect with Pluto in 4th, but is loved so much by my mother that he feels, she suffocates him. He has great relations with women as well as men. The only problem I can see manifested by those aspects is girlfriend troubles.

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posted March 14, 2011 05:21 PM            

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Well, Soulful
I think Moon in hard aspect to Pluto could be smothering by the mother.
You know what is amazing?
HOW the relationship with our parents is set out IN the chart at the time we take our first breath.
How do you wrap your mind around that lol

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posted March 15, 2011 12:21 AM            

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Yeah but I do have hope.. there's got to be people out there with hard Moon/Pluto aspect and have great relationships with their mothers! Mom and I are getting along okay nowadays too.. kinda scared to say it out loud, like if I did, something will get fukked up.

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posted March 15, 2011 12:28 AM            

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Neither. Both sexes have hurt me badly, and both have shown me love and kindness, and that they can be trustworthy.

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posted October 16, 2011 12:01 AM            

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I'm a Libra and I have the capacity to trust everyone and anyone equally however I find it easier to open up to men and trust men. When I was in college I preferred male professors over female. When it comes to me and women there is always tension, simmering underneath the surface. It's never natural and I hold apart of myself back suspiciously and I think they sense that. My closest friends have always been men. It's always one in particular at a time. Even in elementary school I was running around and playing footsies with the boys and on one occasion I actually got beat up by a bunch of girls, I guess out of envy. I make friends with men and maintain friendships better with men then women. My friendships with women never seem to last.

I feel balanced more with men then with women. But I love women, truly I think we are truly amazing. I've had both men and women treat me poorly but the men in my life are steadfast and true. I can't say that much for the women, the exception being my wonderful mother of course.

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posted October 17, 2011 04:25 AM            

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ummm I don't really trust anyone lol
I'm skeptical I guess.

I only trust myself.

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posted October 25, 2011 04:23 AM            

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women, def. women

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posted November 19, 2011 11:22 AM            

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I trust only masculine men. Period. No women whatsoever, even Taurus. My neice, whose a cancer (gag), I trust in a few ways, but on the whole, she'd stab her mother for a nice purse. Never EVER, as a female, should you trust a gay male. If you don't know that now, and you let your guard down, you'll find out the hard way eventually. Pile on me. I don't care. Truth through experience.

"One of the common failings among honorable people is a failure to appreciate how thoroughly dishonorable some people can be and how dangerous it is to trust them" - Thomas Sowell

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posted November 19, 2011 12:20 PM            

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Trust no one 100% but yourself.

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The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation. What is called resignation is confirmed desperation A stereotyped but unconscious despair is concealed even under what are called the games and amusements of mankind.
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posted November 20, 2011 12:07 PM            

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In theory I trust both equally. In practice, I find it much easier to form a trust-bond with women.

I have a pretty solid relationship with my mother and sister. My mom's moon is trine mine and her Venus is in the same sign as my Mars (Capricorn).

I have no serious issues with my father, but I have had some negative experiences with men (sexual assault and a guy who was kind of stalkerishly obsessed with me) so I'm more easily triggered to hit the panic button with men. I wish that weren't the case.

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posted November 20, 2011 03:52 PM            

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It takes me a long time to trust anyone.

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posted November 20, 2011 03:58 PM            

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Being a silly Pisces, I tend to trust everyone, until and if they prove themselves untrustworthy...then I will never trust that individual again.

However in my younger years, I trusted men more..women can be so catty and back stabbing..but in my aging years, I tend to trust women more...

Funny my Virgo (opposite) bfriend trusts noone..even me.

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posted November 20, 2011 04:07 PM            

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I have trusted a few 100%
However once trust is even slightly damaged;
I will always from then on not trust totally ever again.

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posted November 21, 2011 12:32 PM            

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Men, but that is because I dont put them on any level above friends, and I let them know that.

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