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posted March 15, 2011 01:47 PM            

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oh yea...my friend helped me to come out of my depression, and i became less bitter...i began to grow spiritually...that one person helped me to start growing, and i actually owe her for how i am today, for who i am today...she was only the start, after her i got another really close friend..i owe her as much as my first friend

what horary, ami? what kind of information? i must know, lol, going on msn now

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posted March 15, 2011 02:37 PM            

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I am there

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posted March 16, 2011 11:13 AM            

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Okay I am just to going to give my friend her space. I said sorry to her twice allready. (voice mail and in person)

She doesn't want to talk about it. And at work she will like say hi to everyone exsept for me. And if I say hi to her she gets this annoyed look on her face...but will say hi back since we are at work.

So now I feel annoyed at trying to make it work, and feel bad about it. I know what I did was wrong...But now I'm at the point where I'm just like fuq it, I tried. I can't hold on to feeling guilty and bad about it...or I wont get anything else done.

I want to say sorry to her sister too. But after her posting that sh!t on fb about me...I don't feel like it.
Yes I do have a muffin top...but I'm not fat or broke. And two wrongs don't make a right. Ya know!

Anyway I'll be back later...Gotta get ready for class and work.

I have enjoyed reading everyones posts on here.

Stawr

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posted March 16, 2011 01:32 PM            

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I will be back ,later, Stawr
I think you are in a typical Scorpio,perhaps just life, dilemma.
You can learn from this and come out the other side better

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posted March 16, 2011 01:58 PM            

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I am an expert in making mistakes.I think you must in order to really learn heart lessons.
You can lose people in the process.
Perhaps, you could have kept them if you were wiser but you were not.
Other times, you never should have had them from the beginning and the lesson is to run when you see them in ANOTHER person the next time.
The larger issue is that mistakes are the stepping stone to owning one's Scorpio which IS one's self

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posted March 16, 2011 02:02 PM            

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if you cannot get your friend back, then it is for the best, the relationship has run its course and you have learned the lessons pluto wanted you to learn

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posted March 17, 2011 08:45 AM            

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Your thread has helped me hone down some things,Stawr
We,all ,help each other

A Scorpio is direct. Forcing oneself to be direct is to become Scorpio.
Passive aggression is not a Scorpio way. I am not judging.
I have made most mistakes and continue lol

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posted March 17, 2011 08:50 AM            

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A Scorpio is defined.
That being said,one needs to find ways to define oneself.
People violate people. You have to figure out HOW to deal with it in such a way that you can retain your integrity.
A Scorpio has high integrity.

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posted March 17, 2011 08:50 AM            

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Now---HOW to do all this stuff. That is the hard part lol

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posted March 17, 2011 01:05 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I am an expert in making mistakes.I think you must in order to really learn heart lessons.
You can lose people in the process.
Perhaps, you could have kept them if you were wiser but you were not.
Other times, you never should have had them from the beginning and the lesson is to run when you see them in ANOTHER person the next time.
The larger issue is that mistakes are the stepping stone to owning one's Scorpio which IS one's self

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I feel that way...I had bad consequenses for what I did. So now I don't want to be like that anymore.
If I'm ever in a crazy situation like that again. I will say "okay this sucks for me, but thats okay I want you to have a good time."(I really do!) Or something like that. Since I comited to looking after someone...(and being a clock block to that guy) I shouldn't b!tched about it.

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posted March 17, 2011 01:17 PM            

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be back later agian. lol I got to study and then go back to work.

And thanks again everyone for their words. This is like free counsling for me. haha...I really think I should see a counsler again. I finally met one that I really liked and went to her for about a year...but then she got another job too far out. So I didn't feel like jumping into it again cause I've tried 3 others before her who eventualy didn't help me much. So I feel like it's harder to find the right one.

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posted March 17, 2011 02:18 PM            

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It helps to talk about things

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posted March 17, 2011 07:09 PM            

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Gosh yes, it so does...I think we may eventualy be okay soon...she took the initative to say a little something to me today. Today at the school...parents and kids where going in and out of school. And I was getting ready to sign in the latchkey kids and she came in quick and said something about how it is outside. I was surprized and probibly a little jumpy like "oh! yeah! It is!"
So that right there shows me oh maybe there is hope. That would be great.

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posted March 17, 2011 07:17 PM            

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I think you will get back with her Stawr.
I have learned SO many lessons as I try to claim my Scorpio.
A true friend can endure problems.
If problems break you up,better to let the person go.
It would have broken up some where along the way cuz life IS problems and struggles lol

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posted March 17, 2011 07:19 PM            

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Things are truly a lesson OR a blessing.
For me, I blunder and then learn.
Prior to this,I was TOO afraid to fail, so I stayed frozen.
It was a million times worse lol

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posted March 17, 2011 09:17 PM            

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Stawr
If you get your friend back, that is good. Bigger than this, learn to own your own power, your own anger,your own sense of what is right and wrong for YOU.
That is Scorpio.
It is a hard lesson.
Scorpio is not for the weak.
God must have KNOWN we could handle Scorpio or He would not have given it to us

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posted March 18, 2011 11:21 AM            

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This thread has helped me hone my values, Stawr.
We help each other like a family

I see that many of my problems in life were pride/hubris.
I thought that as a Christian ,I needed to help EVERYONE.
I don't.
If I try to ,my life will unravel cuz it is not a workable concept.
IF I am to help someone,I will have a sense of it.
Then,I can sacrifice myself.

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posted March 18, 2011 11:23 AM            

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I had co-dependency MIXED with Christianity.
I learned by screwing up.
For me, thus far, that is the only way to learn,pure and simple .
*I* am not in this world to save people with problems.
I hope *I* can become the best *I* can be.
In doing that, I hope I will be able to love some special people in my life and be loved in return.

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posted March 19, 2011 11:42 AM            

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Oh yeah I was raised Christian/Catholic.

Currently I am agnostic. I'm very curious about other beleifs right now. And just exploring a bit I guess.

That kind of runs in my family. My Grandma(who has Aqua sun) who passed in Jan(she also has Aqua Mars and Venus Pisces like me)...changed religions a few times in her lifetime. The ones I know she went to a Protestant church for a while...and the last couple years she went to a Catholic church. Even in her old age went to like old people Sunday school for it or something. She died a Catholic. And my other really Catholic Grandma said "oh she will definitely go to heaven now." lmao.

Oh gosh...and I think my mom has it worse.lol I think her fam was raised protestant then when my mom got married she converted to Catholicism. When I was really little for a while my mom tried a church that just believed in a higher power/self. And then a few years ago she had a mid life crisis. When I separated myself from her more and refused to have her live her life trough me. She got really into psychics and meditation(again. she has like a degree or something she could be a yoga teach if she wanted to)and spiritual healers.
And then Reiki. That kind of creeped me and my sis out a little. Cause when she first got into it she would tell me and my sis about out of body experiences she was having.
Then she ended up going to this church that is just Christian. My mom is super involved there. Some stuff my mom says can sound really wako sometimes like how everything bad is demons(I mean that is one way of looking at it, but come on mom you work in the medical field!, lol) but I really like what she has to say other times too. But I let it slide cause my mom will always love me, and she is happy at her church.

For me I like some Christian beliefs like I realize that it is good to forgive people. I realize if I want to be forgiven for my wrongs I should be able to do the same for others . LOL And many are common sense like "thou shall not steal"

And me, I don't like praying to God to ask for things. Because then I will get really mad if it doesn't happen. And feel that I am being mocked by him or something. lol That's why I stopped praying for the most part. Yes some say "Pray, and if it doesn't happen, it wasn't meant to be, and God has something better for you." And to me that makes me think "Then what's the point to pray to ask for things?" But that is just me. And I respect anyone who connects with that. But I will say thank God sometimes. And say thanks before a meal once in a while.
And when its really nice out and I'm in nature I think wow somehow all this stuff got here. And I feel really blessed to be alive in it. Even when other stuff like friend drama is making me feel a little down.

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posted March 19, 2011 11:51 AM            

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Also a few weeks ago this girl from my high school apologized to me cause I was mad at her. She sent me a message over fb. I was really impressed. So I knew I had to give her a chance.
But we are hanging out today. (and we haven't hung out since October I think)

Yes I know how it feels when you apologize to someone...and they still want to put you down. And make you feel bad. It irks me.
I really don't apologize a lot. If I don't think I'm wrong I wont say it.

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posted March 19, 2011 03:23 PM            

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Stawr,
I just wanted to tell you that I've been following your thread and I can relate to alot of it, particularly your ideas about God, prayer and faith. The story about your mom is interesting especially with the blaming health problems on bad spirits.

I grew up in a Christian home and was taught that if I even questioned God or the Bible that that was the Devil's influence on me trying to turn me away from God and that the Devil is able to make you turn away from God without you even knowing or realizing. I knew in my late teens that Christianity wasn't the right path for me, since then I've resonated deeply with Eastern Philosophies.

Essentially I feel like alot of religious beliefs are a form of brain washing which is why I am agnostic and more spiritual than religious. However with many religions I will chew the meat and spit out the bones. If it resonates with me, I will hold on to it, if it doesn't I let it go. This is against Christianity I think because with that religion and most others it's all or nothing.

But who really know what, right? I know what makes my heart happy and comforted. I find it hard to believe that I am Devil influenced unless the Devil is one caring, kind and compassionate being.

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posted March 19, 2011 04:32 PM            

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Haha, yeah my mom's side is the crazy side of my family!

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posted March 19, 2011 05:05 PM            

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Stawr
Search with an open heart and an open mind and you will find the truth.
This thread has really helped me ,too.
Lets keep up with it

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Keep writing
I need to share, too

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