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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 11830 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted May 27, 2011 05:18 PM http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum23/HTML/000232.html Are you interested? We could talk more ------------------ ‎"Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality Jung He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged
maira Knowflake Posts: 454 From: Registered: Jun 2009	posted May 27, 2011 05:37 PM I added you sweetie (I have had horrible experiences with Internet mingling with "real life" :sigh: ) IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 11830 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted May 28, 2011 04:14 AM Thank you Maira Several sites say there is no difference between a psychopath and a sociopath, When you call it psychopath it feels much worse. I am thinking maybe sociopath was named cuz Psychopath sounded so scary ,Sociopath does not sound so scary so maybe it was a politically correct thing to change the name ------------------ ‎"Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality Jung He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged
sassaqua Knowflake Posts: 38 From: Australia Registered: May 2011	posted June 01, 2011 09:36 PM Hi all, quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: Thank you Maira My website says you MUST earn their respect if you are to have any relationship with them. Maybe they only understand brute strength like an animal Thanks for this Ami Anne, I have sort of come to the same conclusion; they seem to relate non-emotion with strength. Or, the other way to put it - emotions as weakness. And yes, like animals What site is it that you talk of please can you say? Sassaqua IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 11830 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted June 01, 2011 09:49 PM http://www.sociopathworld.com/ This Darling ------------------ Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality Jung You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it . Jesus He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 11830 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted June 08, 2011 08:19 AM Got some insights in to this.Was watching some Ted Bundy video's on U tube last night. ------------------ Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality Jung You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it . Jesus He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 11830 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted June 08, 2011 09:05 AM The pyschopath is probably the sociopath who is sicker ,more disturbed,more ORGANIZED. I see that with Bundy and the few sociopaths I have known. Bundy kept his inside.If you see a sociopath losing it, it is a GOOD thing. The more controlled it is, the worse ------------------ Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality Jung You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it . Jesus He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged
maira Knowflake Posts: 454 From: Registered: Jun 2009	posted June 08, 2011 05:41 PM quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: The pyschopath is probably the sociopath who is sicker ,more disturbed,more ORGANIZED. I see that with Bundy and the few sociopaths I have known. Bundy kept his inside.If you see a sociopath losing it, it is a GOOD thing. The more controlled it is, the worse Yes Ami, you got it! It's the chameleon. That's why it's almost impossible to spot a true psychopath in my opinion. They are normal. Of course, they just seem that way because they are so controlled. They adapt to any given situation, oozing charm when it's necessary or using brute force when it's needed, hence the analogy with the chameleon. IP: Logged
Benedict Moon* Knowflake Posts: 2319 From: Avendesora Registered: May 2009	posted June 08, 2011 06:50 PM Sociopaths can't empathize. They like to mimic human emotions though, so that they seemingly fit in because the appearance of things is of utmost importance to them. Now I'm not talking about every person who likes to keep up appearances, this is more eerie. Look for the person who seems too 'filmish' or too contrived; they'll usually spout what would sound like a good line coming from some drama. The problem is, they 'fit in' so well socially. We had the pleasure of dealing with a patient's mother who strongly suggested BPD last weekend, it was not pretty. One minute she all smiles and "How are yous", and the next minute she's raging at everyone from the nurse to me because the ER forgot to bring her son a damn popsicle. They can feel, with much more intensity, and they just can't control the expression. IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 11830 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted June 09, 2011 08:43 AM quote: Originally posted by maira: Yes Ami, you got it! It's the chameleon. That's why it's almost impossible to spot a true psychopath in my opinion. They are [b]normal. Of course, they just seem that way because they are so controlled. They adapt to any given situation, oozing charm when it's necessary or using brute force when it's needed, hence the analogy with the chameleon.[/B] You understand it Maira. I think the sociopaths who lose it are the safer ones. ------------------ Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality Jung You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it . Jesus He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 11830 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted June 09, 2011 02:30 PM Been thinking about this question.Been reading the website"Socio World" and been watching Bundy videos . I think the person who is attracted to the socio has certain traits as the yin/yang to the socio. I think the person who is attracted has to have a great level of inner emptiness, a shattered /fractured self. Also, the person who is attracted cannot FEEL. That person is his own form of a blank just as the sociopath is a blank. The person who is attracted needs HUGE stimuli in order to feel. The disordered world of the socio is right up their alley. "Hit me with your best shot ------------------ Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality Jung You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it . Jesus He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 11830 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted June 09, 2011 02:32 PM dp IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 11830 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted June 09, 2011 02:56 PM The woman say "The socio is so bad. He is so bad" but how many hundreds of woman passed him up. That is the better question to ask ------------------ Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality Jung You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it . Jesus He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 11830 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted June 09, 2011 04:02 PM One thing about knowing a real sociopath is that I know I ain't one. I could not use another person for my own enjoyment : toying with them. I have a conscience and I simply could NOT. ------------------ Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality Jung You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it . Jesus He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 11830 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted June 11, 2011 11:19 AM I think that if you have a relationship with a sociopath,they have what you need in terms of being in touch with their primal nature. You have lost this. If someone had it, they would walk away from the sociopath at the outset cuz their own primal nature would scream "Bad,bad" So, the lack is in oneself. The answer is to access one's own primal nature :to be AS the sociopath is,carefree, primal, insouciant. Access that in oneself and you won't need to act it out on the outside with a another person. ------------------ Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality Jung You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it . Jesus He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged
maira Knowflake Posts: 454 From: Registered: Jun 2009	posted June 11, 2011 11:49 AM There is something very childlike in their behavior. Have you seen a little child killing an insect or even a little animal? When he is reprimanded, the child is genuinely amazed, as he does not comprehend the wrongness in what he did. IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 11830 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted June 11, 2011 12:12 PM quote: Originally posted by maira: There is something very childlike in their behavior. Have you seen a little child killing an insect or even a little animal? When he is reprimanded, the child is genuinely amazed, as he does not comprehend the wrongness in what he did. YES The childlike IS there. This person was screaming at me BUT it was as a child. I laughed--really .I still do when I think of it cuz it was like a 3 year old having a tantrum. ------------------ Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality Jung You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it . Jesus He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 11830 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted June 11, 2011 12:17 PM I figured out WHAT attracts someone to a sociopath,in particular. The sociopath has NO shame. The person who is attracted is FILLED with shame,oozing out the pores lol The sociopath is like a free bird, a primal tiger. The sociopath is so shiny cuz he has no restraints which bind the "normal" person as strongly as a Chinese woman with bound feet. The "normal" person wants to be free as the sociopath is free, free to experience her passions in all that entails. The sociopath knows the way. He has the shiny brass ring. She can only look on in amazement. Who is this creature who is ABOVE all that binds her in pain? It is his yang to her yin. If not,she would walk away as hundreds do,walk away in pure disgust . ------------------ Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality Jung You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it . Jesus He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 11830 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted June 11, 2011 12:32 PM Maira Let me ask you this.I think I just need to ask it and have someone answer it who KNOWS this subject. Could a sociopath kill without feeling anything except concern for his own getting caught? ------------------ Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality Jung You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it . Jesus He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 11830 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted June 11, 2011 01:45 PM The general consensus on sites seems to be that both could kill and not care ------------------ Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality Jung You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it . Jesus He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged
maira Knowflake Posts: 454 From: Registered: Jun 2009	posted June 11, 2011 01:55 PM I'm not speaking from experience here (thank God), but the answer is a definite yes. Robert Hare called them "inter-species predators". I once read a forum where they wrote, and they called themselves (with pride) the next step in the evolution of mankind. They were proud that they had no emotions, stating that emotions just interfere with reaching goals. My logic (sociopathic? ) conclusion is that killing would not cause any remorse, since they simply cannot feel. IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 11830 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted June 11, 2011 02:09 PM quote: Originally posted by maira: I'm not speaking from experience here (thank God), but the answer is a definite yes. Robert Hare called them "inter-species predators". I once read a forum where they wrote, and they called themselves (with pride) the next step in the evolution of mankind. They were proud that they had no emotions, stating that emotions just interfere with reaching goals. My logic (sociopathic? ) conclusion is that killing would not cause any remorse, since they simply cannot feel. Thanks Maira I appreciate you so VERY much ------------------ Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality Jung You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it . Jesus He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 11830 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted June 11, 2011 02:21 PM I think I HAVE figured out who these people are and what they are. I know there are a million theories but most things that are true are simple. I think the sociopath is an emotionally stunted 3 year olde. We all have a slice of the sociopath in us and always will. However,we have other parts to compensate. The N stopped maturing a little later,maybe 5-6. The Borderline ,I am not sure about.This is a fractured self so many not be as "simple" as the others. This one I think fractured where the others stopped. PS per usual -this is my opinion.Opinions are like noses.We all have one and they usually have a few holes in them. ------------------ Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality Jung You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it . Jesus He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged
maira Knowflake Posts: 454 From: Registered: Jun 2009	posted June 11, 2011 03:18 PM Aww, sweetie, thanks, you're making me blush I think it's important to know these labels at first. It helps you to know what's wrong and that it is NOT your fault. I remember reading a book, the person writing it was at her therapist, and the therapist mentioned that she left her husband who had made her suffer. And the writer asked what PD the therapysts husband had, and she answered she had no idea. The writer went berserk, how do you not go mad at not knowing what's the matter with him, she asked. And the therapist simply shrugged and said that it doesn't really matter. He made her suffer, the end. That's all that counts. It's all about healthy boundaries. As I said, at first, it is important to know the why and the how's. But in the end, the important thing is if it feels good or not. IP: Logged

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