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Topic: Why Do Girls Put Up With Cheating?
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AstrologicalMan
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From: Brickenton
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posted June 29, 2011 05:39 AM
  
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Originally posted by lalitree:
Although I agree with what you mean AstrologicalMan, I do think that cheating itself is wrong, because the cheaters are Lying to their partners. If both partners knew from the beginning and agreed that they were both ok with possible sex outside the relationship then that would be understandable
so people should say that they are going to cheat when they enter a relationship? IP: Logged |
Betty Boop
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posted June 29, 2011 08:33 AM
Yes they should.
Or they should tell you once it has happened. I mean it's the sort of thing that would come up in conversation, so whether he lies overtly or by omission - it will still be a lie. If someone blatantly lies to me.. I lose trust and I'll always be skeptical of everything they ever say. IP: Logged |
dysfunctionalmystic
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posted June 29, 2011 09:38 AM
I think everyone is capable of knowing whether they can be faithful or not and if it's established that monogomy is wanted then that agreement should be honoured. If you don't want monogamy then fine...but have the courage to say so. We all have a right to make our own decisions on what is acceptable in terms of behaviour from our SO. IP: Logged |
MoonWitch
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posted June 29, 2011 02:54 PM
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Originally posted by Betty Boop:
Why should anyone be forced to be monogamous?
No one (here in the US anyway) is FORCED to be monogomous. But if they CHOOSE as a competent adult to enter into a union whereby they PROMISE to be monogomous then they should be. If they want to be in an open relationship, persue open relationships and let their partners know that then of course that's a different story. Emotional aspects aside, there are far too many health risks going around to subject an innocent partner to. A partner deserves to know if the other one is bringing home something potentially dangerous not only to the adults but any possible pregnancies or babies born from those pregnancies. Apes, btw, do a lot of things I don't find particularly tasteful. Like eat each other (not in the good way) and play in their own feces. If they want to have sex with many apes they can have a grand ol' time doing that too. I don't feel like I need to model my life and health on ape behavior. However, if someone else would like to compare animals behavior to human for fun, there are examples of monogomous animal pairings in nature. Ducks, Eagles, Foxes, Beavers, Geese, Gibbons, Lynx, Marmosets, Mountain Lions, Swans, Wolves, etc. IP: Logged |
AstrologicalMan
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posted June 29, 2011 05:26 PM
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Originally posted by Betty Boop:
Yes they should.
Or they should tell you once it has happened. I mean it's the sort of thing that would come up in conversation, so whether he lies overtly or by omission - it will still be a lie. If someone blatantly lies to me.. I lose trust and I'll always be skeptical of everything they ever say.
Betty, I have something to tell you. I cheated on you with your backside while you were asleep.... IP: Logged |
Betty Boop
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posted June 29, 2011 07:50 PM
MoonWitch, quote:
if they CHOOSE as a competent adult to enter into a union whereby they PROMISE to be monogomous then they should be
I completely agree.
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Apes, btw, do a lot of things I don't find particularly tasteful.
I don't feel this way.
I basically feel the same way about animals as I do about humans (because humans are animals).. I don't see a discrepancy in terms of being 'tasteful' or 'distasteful'.
There is plenty of human-behaviour out there - that is worse than what you just described.
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Something potentially dangerous not only to the adults but any possible pregnancies or babies born from those pregnancies.
That's very true correct - and I have also mentioned it myself on a different thread. There is a difference between having safe-sex.. and unsafe-sex... just like there is a difference between sober-driving and drink-driving.
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I don't feel like I need to model my life and health on ape behavior.
I was not implying that you need to model your life on gorilla behaviour. We are homo sapiens (so we are actually a different KIND of ape and have our own rules + added intelligence and medical aid).
My quotes from wiki. were regarding Astro Man's comment that "animal males LEAVE females after sex". This is not correct. Quite apart from my last comments to AstroMan.... what I was saying earlier (when I said ‘if one looked in a mirror and were next to an ape they would see obvious biological similarities’).. This was NOT to say that anyone needs to *copy* the lifestyle of a gorilla or a chimpanzee. There is nothing to ‘copy’ here.. because in virtue of having a BODY and being alive.. you are an animal. You are already living the life of an ape.. because you eat, you drink.. you poop, you wee, you have sex, you reproduce, you die. I don’t think it’s necessary bring up details like.. “well - an ape is less intelligent and plays with his/her feces while I don’t” – because it is irrelevant to what I’m saying. A human being who is mentally retarded, could likewise engage in such behaviour. When I’m talking about sex, I’m talking about animal instinct, not intelligence. SEX goes much deeper than intelligence. There is an instinct/drive for sex, because biologically sex leads to reproduction. ALL mammals have this in common. Just because you are not like an ape in daily details like brushing your teeth (while they wouldn’t know what to do with a brush – unless trained!).. or ‘reading a book’ because you have a much higher IQ - it does not mean you are not LIKE an ape in the bigger picture of the ---birth-sex-reproduction-death--- cycle. In terms of sexual intercourse (including sexual attraction prior to intercourse) and reproduction - we are quite similar, because we are all ‘great apes’ biologically. This is not something that people have a choice in.
One cannot choose whether they would like to be an animal or not... whether they would like to be a great ape or not. We simply have an animal body with organs and hormones, like all other animals. PS. Nothing I have said is meant to be offensive. Sometimes people take offence if they are likened to animals.. and often we use words like "dog" "pig" "cow".. with a negative connotation.
From my perspective I have the utmost respect for all animals. IP: Logged |
Benedict Moon*
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posted June 29, 2011 08:47 PM
To answer the original thread....not all women put up with cheating, just the ones who are afraid to be alone.
To answer the ongoing argument: I'm not offended at being compared with animals, and I don't think anyone else is offended about that either. What DOES offend people is when others try to force on them the idea that their personal choice is unnatural or not right. And that goes for people who are monagamous or those who are polyamorous.
Yes, we are like animals in many ways but I do believe that we, as a species, have a choice as to whether we are monagamous or not. People just enter agreements for the wrong reasons, and that's where the problems begin. There are other species (as pointed above) that have this choice too, which is enough proof to me that monagamy is just as natural a choice as polyamory or whatever you call it. I've pretty much gone without sex for almost 3 years now and according to certain schools of thought, I should've practically self-immolated a long time ago, but about 70% of the time...that's the last thing on my mind. Making a connection is almost always the first thing on my mind when feeling like interacting. IP: Logged |
Betty Boop
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posted June 29, 2011 09:36 PM
I agree with you Benedict!---- I have been replying to this line of thinking (as expressed by a few people) - although the quote is from dysfunctional mystic: quote:
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that people, especially women, are starting to accept that men cannot be monogamists, every man can be a monogamist just keep ur damn pants on.
I said: Why should anyone be forced to be monogamous?
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Yes, we are like animals in many ways but I do believe that we, as a species, have a choice as to whether we are monagamous or not.
I agree that we have that choice individually.. Any person can choose what is best from their perspective. But as a species, it's difficult to say that, because there are different cultures etc.. and some still do polygamous marriages for instance.
So I don't think monogamy will ever be a world-wide human species - choice. As LEXX said.. I'm totally on board with this: quote:
To try and force monogamy on another is wrong.
To try and force non-monogamy on another is wrong.
My argument was basically that.. people should not be judged if they choose to be non-monogamous, as its a perfectly normal choice. I don't see anything weird or morally reprehensible about it.... about a man having sex with multiple partners or a woman having sex with multiple partners. Of course monogamous relationships also - should not be 'judged'.. But at the moment in Western society.. these relationships are the standard, and anything else is taboo (to varying degrees).
If the president of any western country - came out and said his marriage is actually an 'open' relationship.. it would be political death.
I am only trying to put a different spin on this, as I know how much it is looked down upon.. and I disagree. quote:
that's the last thing on my mind. Making a connection is almost always the first thing on my mind when feeling like interacting.
I'm the same. There are differences in preference, sex-drive, beliefs.. between people. . and what triggers someone's sexual instinct, would not necessarily work for another. In my entire life, I have only had a strong desire/drive to have sex with ONE man (he's the only one I've actually felt a pull towards).. and he is the guy I'm in love with (I posted the synastry a few times! Sco Mars guy) But if someone else has a desire to have sex with ten people - it's really not my problem, if they are consenting adults. And as above, I don't think there is anything 'weird' about it. I am positive that sex-drive or 'desire' varies in other animal species. I have not read about this, but I doubt that animals of any species have sex drives that are exactly in sync and they all have exactly as much sex with exactly the same number of partners. But when the desire/drive is there.. and they *do*... there is no 'gorilla-priest' around to spank them for it. IP: Logged |
Benedict Moon*
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From: Avendesora
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posted June 30, 2011 12:14 AM
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But as a species, it's difficult to say that, because there are different cultures etc.. and some still do polygamous marriages for instance.
So I don't think monogamy will ever be a world-wide human species - choice.
That's pretty much what I meant. This is just way too subjective to determine either way whether or not people stick with one person or many. Not everyone is "forced" to be anything. And polygamy in other cultures is a shaky ground--->> I don't endorse it in some cultures (like in mine) because AIDs and other infections are so prevalent, and its normally used to subject one gender under another (guess which one?). But under the right democratic setting with minimal risks I'd say--->>each to their own.
All in all, no one is or should be judging others for their lifestyle choices if everyone is a consenting adult, but they do have a right to confront the person who DECIEVES and BETRAYS them. Bottom line is, if its really not in your nature to control yourself, then save everyone the trouble and just don't enter any sort of agreement because the only thing trapping you in that case is your own dishonesty. As for animals, there are some species that are 99% poly-whatever, and some that are 99% monagomous. That's pretty much what I meant when I said not even animal behavior can determine how we should be. IP: Logged |
dysfunctionalmystic
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posted June 30, 2011 07:33 AM
Betty Boop you quoted Venus and not me in your response a couple of sections above.  IP: Logged |
Venus
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posted July 04, 2011 04:43 AM
lol yes, and i still hold my grounds.. Keep them damn pants on!.. we are humans, civilized human beings, i don’t care what animals do doesn’t give anyone an excuse to do the same!
animals mate with their offspring should i expect that to become a trend in the future? people can say no, i know because i can, and i dont understand why anyone else can't. if there's a consent that a couple doesn’t want to be monogamist, then whateves! but if it is a traditional relationship between two who promise to be faithful then it is only normal to expect complete faithfulness and receive complete faithfulness, if that’s not what you signed for then just dont put yourself in that situation..
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bellesoul
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posted August 12, 2011 05:32 AM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Maybe a man has to REALLY be committed to spiritual/moral values to be monogamous.
Heck, that would be the same for a woman 
Definately!! Even if you were really really turned on, had connection etc etc, if your spiritual and moral values are more important you would stay faithful/ monogamous. Sometimes things change in relationships and you should consider whether you want to stay together or not but cheating is unacceptable for it is a negative act and not TRUE. If i were too stray i would know something in my relationship had died or the connection had been lost. I believe the 'connection' between people can be regained but it requires honesty and communication. IP: Logged |
Voix_de_la_Mer
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posted August 31, 2011 09:21 AM
I don't. Ever.
Cheating is just another way to say 'goodbye'.I have been lucky that it has only ever happened to me once, and it was a puppy love situation - age 14, so I don't even know if it could be termed 'cheating' as we didn't really have the capacity to love in the true sense of the word. Still, he slept with my friend ...
*conversion to my understanding* pixie dust pixie dust pixie dust - he doesn't love me. I'm not interested in being with anyone who doesn't love me. So, it's all very simple for me. The girls I have known who put up with it usually have an unstable sense of self, or are attempting to be 'hippies' and advocate some psedofree-love movement, when actually they are just crying inside to be accepted, or those who aren't actually in love, but rather are in lust, money, or co-dependency. IP: Logged |
Malena
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posted August 31, 2011 05:56 PM
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Originally posted by MoonWitch:
No one (here in the US anyway) is FORCED to be monogomous. But if they CHOOSE as a competent adult to enter into a union whereby they PROMISE to be monogomous then they should be. If they want to be in an open relationship, persue open relationships and let their partners know that then of course that's a different story.Emotional aspects aside, there are far too many health risks going around to subject an innocent partner to. A partner deserves to know if the other one is bringing home something potentially dangerous not only to the adults but any possible pregnancies or babies born from those pregnancies.
I agree with this completely. I have no problem with a person who has multiple sexual partners going at once. I have a huge problem if they lie about it. Can you imagine being totally faithful to your partner, thinking s/he was doing the same, and then find out you have HIV because THEY cheated? I don't care where you stand on monogamy/polygamy, that's just evil. If a person - male or female - knows they can't limit themselves to one sexual partner, that's fine. They can still at least be honest. BTW, I also think there is a huge double standard. A lot of men who say "it's only natural, men are biologically driven to cheat" would go berserk if their wife/girlfriend satisfied her natural, biological sexual urges with another man. Somehow I don't think a lot of guys would just shut up and take it if their wife/girlfriend said "Sorry honey, he's just more of an alpha male than you... I was driven to try to mate with him!" Have an open relationship all you want - just don't be a hypocrite IP: Logged |
LEXX
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posted August 31, 2011 06:20 PM
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Originally posted by Malena:
I agree with this completely. I have no problem with a person who has multiple sexual partners going at once. I have a huge problem if they lie about it. Can you imagine being totally faithful to your partner, thinking s/he was doing the same, and then find out you have HIV because THEY cheated? I don't care where you stand on monogamy/polygamy, that's just evil. If a person - male or female - knows they can't limit themselves to one sexual partner, that's fine. They can still at least be honest. BTW, I also think there is a huge double standard. A lot of men who say "it's only natural, men are biologically driven to cheat" would go berserk if their wife/girlfriend satisfied her natural, biological sexual urges with another man. Somehow I don't think a lot of guys would just shut up and take it if their wife/girlfriend said "Sorry honey, he's just more of an alpha male than you... I was driven to try to mate with him!" Have an open relationship all you want - just don't be a hypocrite
I totally agree! 
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Taineberry
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posted September 01, 2011 03:26 PM
Malena - you captured it in a nutshell!Why is honesty so difficult? IP: Logged |
RegardesPlatero
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posted September 24, 2011 05:24 AM
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Starry, Starry Night
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posted September 30, 2011 08:21 AM
I believe innocently in honesty, now it begs the question of why lie. I figure its because humans want power over each other the man needs to sow his oats and the woman wants to gather them. Who will win this battle? Innocence is bliss. I have gotten by just upon a smile. Oh the joy of childhood past.------------------
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zodiacexpert
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posted September 30, 2011 03:13 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Pluto 
Hey Ami, could you please elaborate? I feel a lot of it has to do with childhood and self esteem issues issues and for the most part the people bring it on themselves usually by setting the stage because of low self esteem thinking its a false freedom they're seeking but it just backfires on themselves especially women and guys usually take one of two tacs or swing like a pendulum either having a fling thats short lived or playing the field. What I find interesting is I hear advice to men given like "be there for her when she comes back because she'll really need you" Can you imagine the same advice being given to a woman or girfreind of a notch in the belt "player" philanderer? So how's this woman supposed to ever grow and mature if she doesn't experience the down side of her ignorance? Sorry but this runs both ways; theres a lot of creepy guys and girls out there. I've seen it run the gammut from girls that were porn addicts getting physical way too early and being surprized by the results. Of course your going too be depressed and suicidal if you cant control your limbic instincts and you want a deep satisfying relationship and your worse than most guys who are naturally wired to go for volume. I dont know but theres a pervasive ignorance of basic facts of life and anybody believes women are always inherently more innocent than men are stuck way in the past!And calling men who aren't pushovers kneejerkedly "control freaks" is a disservice since the guys that get the most action are usually "control freaks" just more laid back in lots of ways because they have no vested interested and could give a **** about these girls proud to call themselves tweakers They even have sites where the guys using them put them down publicly and they all know about it. There's a whole subculture surrounding the phenomenon And 90% of parents are clueless. I'm tempted to write a book because this **** is pervasive and the people coming up with social networking are fueling it in a reckless fashion cnstantly adding vidchat and whatever features throwing gasone on a raging bonfire!Being privy to this stuff I could make a mint and veere between saying ahh whatthe hell its just fun and this pesky thing called a concience thats seen too many bitter burned out casualties that are so out of it they have no clue why their lifes a wreck and its like tryto explain things u just quit cause theres no basic foundation. Now I'm not sure if Itend to attract certain types and have a scewered view having my natal moon conj pluto in 25 degrees leo exact in the 12th house? 25 degrees being criticaland I've heard that placement has an effect as strong if not stronger than a loaded 8th house stellium in plutonian weirdness so any light shed is appreciated. A big part of me doesn't really give a f@@k just takes things as they are and I like having fun just like the next guy just the disconnect with reality is a bit troubling tho not enough to cry about...unless I had a daughter maybe...just listen to the music..The prevaling attitude seems to be "just shut up and bl@w me ***** and make sure the door dont slam your ass when u crawl out n leave"(little wayne)And this ***** big with upper middle class white kids! And young girls get brainwashed that any guy treats them with any tenderness is a ***** or pussy and this becomes the bases of their sexual idenity and idea of love they look at creeps as the norm and act accordingly themselves not having a clue or care about each others feelings and lies are just a normal MO now I'm talking about the under 26 age group mostly tho here are exceptions and they seem to be the oddball's and remember its better neighborhoods in philly I'm talking about not totally impoverished ghetto area's. And its almost hilarious hearing agroup of teen girls on a bus talking about these slimey encounters calling them "relationships" andthese guys as players. These guys couldnt play a dog in the real world only the mentally and morally challenged! Self esteem? Where do you begin? And what do you blame? Its mars and heartbreaking! IP: Logged |
zodiacexpert
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posted September 30, 2011 03:36 PM
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Originally posted by Stawr:
The thing I don't get is people who cheat...Why do they want to be in a realationships!? Why do they think they can have both? A significant other, and women or dudes on the side? They act like they want a comitment and a significant other, AN EQUAL!???
But they obviously don't!
If they want to be a player, they should play by the rules. And treat people the way they want to be treated. I think people should either be in a comitment and only do it with their partner. Or be single, and do it with other single people...If only the world worked that way. And we are all humans, no one is perfect. I'm sure people have cheated, and learned from their mistakes, GREW UP, and have desided to change, and break the habbit. But people who feel no guilt and shame and keep doing it, should not be in relationships.
Absolutely! Thats another syndrome I noticed and its the young girls; they're so afraid of being alone they cllect online "buddies and have imaginary relationships amounting to dirty talk they couldnt do face to face and sending pics. Some girls proud of text juggling multiple guys at the same time!What an accomplishment! A lot of times I really wish I wasn't privy to this toxic subculture. I feel it's having an effect on my psyche detrimentally.Kind of like watching sausage being made or being a cop you get beyond jaded! And Ithought I was a cutting edge artist and free spirit. Ehhh just kinda nauseous now....
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zodiacexpert
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posted September 30, 2011 04:40 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
[QUOTE] I DO believe that men cheat for the physical, and women cheat for the emotional.
I really do
Why do you say this? I understand the female part just not the male  [/QUOTE] Ami I beg to disagree.
I think your coming from a dated libra neptune generational perspective and even overlapping that I saw things that showed me women can be as crass if not more so than a lot of men ie in my mid 20's I got heavilly into bikeriding weight lifting and then a modified macrobiotic diet and have always taken supplements including chinese herbs. Well with my then longcurly blonde hair cutoff size 34 jeans and a tshirt boy did I get the obvious lip licking lewd comeons backrubs by womn I didn't know in nightclubs,beers which I thought were on the house untill a lady was pointed out by the bartenderand I assure you no emotional commitment was expected strictly physical kinda tookme aback.And I also see the aforementionedphenomena of younger women sure they tell themselves its emotional and studies show emotions and quality of orgasm correlations but how do u explain women who have multiple orgasms and a close emotionalbond then rush over to xxx porn online that would make a sailor blush including girl on girl sadomasochism etc And Iassure you it does exist lol intense sex addiction is a reality. maybe its the capricorn slow movers or maybe I always attracted certain types not sure 12th house moon pluto conj or sun conj uranus mars jup conj lol many also had addictive personalities and I becamethe latest addiction. I was stumped saw too much lol IP: Logged |
zodiacexpert
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posted September 30, 2011 06:15 PM
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Originally posted by AstrologicalMan:
because you can't change the nature of things. It is our animal nature. It is how we were created. You know, the man spreads his seed. It is amazing that humans have such a thing as marriage. Which either gets dull or ends horribly.....Do you see the male animals sticking around after they have sex with the female?
incapable of doing it yourself!
They sold these dreams to girls at young ages, that there would be a man, the best man and he would only be interested in you but that isn't the reality of things.
Fact is men and women are differrent.Nature quickly weeds out women who stupidly try to compete with men on their own biological turf! Most mammals have a relatively short gestation period.A human female who was dumb enough to pick an unsuitable mating partner that didnt stick around long enough to protect their offspring soon became history genetically. Thats why the fairytales just a mater of prolonging your genetic line. Its no coincidence that higher IQ goes along with longer child dependancy on parents and no its not selfish at all just common instinct that demands fidelity especially in men from women! A man loses interest in a female shortly after ejaculation on average maybe a few weeks tops if he finds her especially appealing If he falls in love which rarely happens his testosterone level drops dramatically almost as if to stop any sexual fixation So if thres anything unappealing about her it becomes more glareing now in order to force him out of the rut and to spread his seed as u say. So any female dumb enough to think she can play games and some other guy is going to take right over from where she left off is in for a rude awakening All she did was set herself back to square one and now must compete with the glut of women that outnumber men to find a mate thats not just out to put another notch on his belt and leave her a Darwinian dead end. Its ironic to see the corelation between IQ socioeconomic status and mate selection in both men and women/It does not take s village to raise a child unless your incapable of doing it yourself!
Just look at what happened to the 60/s feminists.They Alomg with their philosophy have just about gone extinct! All they contributed was a workforce at half the price to the alpha males and females at the top of societal pecking order. Now most women have twice the work they used to have before their new found "liberation"
And the reason male infidelity is tolerated while female carried a price of stoning to death is an alpha male usually had enough resources to support multiple mates and offspring while beta's could barely protect one and females having unwise sex are usually loathed even by the male they are pleasuring its all about genetic fitness a cursory study of anthropology and biology makes it obvious.Now I'm keeping it strictly unsentimental and sterile because certain statements and questions were asked.So let the rocks fly I know I'm not infallible and will entertain any criticism that holds water. lol IP: Logged |
zodiacexpert
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posted September 30, 2011 06:39 PM
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Originally posted by dysfunctionalmystic:
I think everyone is capable of knowing whether they can be faithful or not and if it's established that monogomy is wanted then that agreement should be honoured. If you don't want monogamy then fine...but have the courage to say so. We all have a right to make our own decisions on what is acceptable in terms of behaviour from our SO.
I believe thats the most intelligent fair and civilized solution to an ancient and motly crude circumstance of life. Informed consent should be a right.That was the original intent of the marriage contract thats been watered down but I believe each situation is unique so clauses and addendums are necessarry IP: Logged |
Betty Boop
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posted October 03, 2011 12:05 AM
^^^ Oh Boy!You poor thing... Are you afflicted with ona them Venus square Mars (read: women are hoes, men are jerks & the world is going to hell) aspects? IP: Logged |
Steam
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posted October 03, 2011 01:20 AM
As an ex server, she was looking for a sympathy tip.  I can't imagine how this was brought up in the first place. Never would I put my issues on to customers, it's completely unprofessional and overall whiney. These women also love to talk about it but never do anything about it. They agree; yes it's wrong, yes, I need to leave but....they never do. Some women just put up with abusive men. I would include consistent cheaters as abuse. Maybe it hurts so good for them. I don't feel sorry for them anymore since they aren't willing to change the course of their lives. IP: Logged |
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