posted April 16, 2012 09:49 AM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
One thing I do know is i pity the fool

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XD alright Mr.T XD[/B][/QUOTE]

posted April 16, 2012 10:12 AM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
And I think you misunderstand what's being talked about. We're not talking about relationships, we're talking about men we don't know (or do, but it isn't appropriate) who feel they have a right to our body or to degrade us for being women in other ways. That is to say, it's the feeling that "I'm entitled to X" is a byproduct of the "me" generation (save that too many men have felt entitled to control and dominate women's bodies for thousands of years now).

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Well herein lies the issue, then. I wasn't referring to strangers but rather men and women within the context of a committed partnership who feel entitled to be dismissive of their partner's needs.

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
I've been warned that a woman's sex drive actually peaks around age 30 and that I can look forward to (for better and worse) much stronger sexual desires (possibly even going from low sex drive to nympho levels) in the next few years.
And interesting enough I knew one woman who said she panicked over not having a child when she was about 40 and had to struggle with sexual urges over it despite that she was asexual (and single) at the time. What was really weird is that after menopause she left her asexuality behind and actually entered into a sexual relationship and said she couldn't imagine doing otherwise.

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Very interesting! Thanks for sharing this. I wonder if this is a common thing?

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
Perhaps to you we were in a relationship and therefore I was being selfish in not sucking him off in exchange for simple kindness that I freely give to people without thought of sexual payoff, but to me we were strangers and he was predatory and manipulative. If you think I owed him a blow job than we'll just have to agree to disagree. Maybe you even think I'm selfish because I fled the group of drunken men who after cat calling me from a balcony came running down the stairs rather than my waiting up for them so that I could tend to their needs. Otherwise, you're not on the same page as the rest of us when we're talking about men who feel entitled to sex because we're talking about completely different circumstances.

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I actually wasn't referring to you at all, unless of course you happen to fall under the aforementioned umbrella of people who feel entitled to prioritize their own desires at the expense of their partners' with little willingness to co-operate.

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
So if you lose everything you feel entitled to people giving you access to their computer simply because you wipe their windshields or offer to clean their home (which you think they're obligated to accept) or even just because? (And if they owe you that then surely they owe you their roof, food, etc, and heck they should put out for you, too.) Because in the context we're talking about above this is how your example would have to be applied, not as in your being close to someone giving you access to their computer. (And btw, I've allowed people I'm close to access to my computer, but that doesn't mean they're entitled to it, because if they were entitled to it then it wouldn't be my computer, it would be theirs.)

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This has very little relevance to the context to which I am referring. The whole point of the computer analogy was merely to demonstrate that a person can feel they need something that is not air, food or water, and this doesn't only apply to men.

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
Maybe some men really need sex (and not just masturbation) to be happy, but I don't get it.

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Some women also require sex to be happy; I'm going to go out on a limb and assume you don't quite "get" that, either.

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
Of course if we're in an intimate relationship then that changes the dynamics.

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Yes, that is the context to which I was referring. I think the examples offered here are perhaps a bit more extreme than what I had in mind, so I apologize for my part in any confusion. It was never my intent to minimize or reinforce any trauma you ladies might have experienced at the hands of men who lack self-control.

posted June 20, 2012 08:51 PM            

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Originally posted by Rishifter:
I was in love with a girl who was very open with me about everything. We used to talk about what's attractive in another girls quite freely. She, in fact, told me once that it was okay if I felt like sleeping with someone else and even did it, as long as I didn't tell her that. I was surprised and realized that she must be just testing me. I don't like to play games and I just told her, in total honesty, that just the fact that she'd tell me that made me value her a lot and it actually made me want to think less of other women and think more of her. Any guys out there relate with that?

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posted June 21, 2012 08:38 AM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
How about don't look and don't touch, and don't even think about it?

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Whenever people look at me "like that" or touch me in a way that makes me feel comfortable, I feel so angry and disgusted

I wish that more people would be polite and leave other people alone.

posted June 22, 2012 02:32 AM            

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