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FireMoon
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posted September 01, 2012 09:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know drinking is all the craze amongst college kids, always has been always will be... I played that card for a few years. It was harmless, just doing what everyone else was... But I've come to see that if I continue to drink the way I have been even just "socially", it will become a problem I don't want to have to deal with.

I've faced my demons, or so I'd like to think, but obviously not completely because I'm still finding ways to escape from who I really am and what I really need to deal with..

I'd like input from anyone who has dealt with similar issues, addiction, alcohol, etc.... Or just anyone who has any kind words or words of encoragement, I am feeling kind of low right now, would really appriciate any support

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Ami Anne
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posted September 01, 2012 09:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

The Bible uses wine, for good purposes like shock and illness. I see it as a drug. When people see it as harmless, they run into trouble.
A person must respect it's power. Then, I think you can use it judiciously.

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FireMoon
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posted September 01, 2012 10:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:

The Bible uses wine, for good purposes like shock and illness. I see it as a drug. When people see it as harmless, they run into trouble.
A person must respect it's power. Then, I think you can use it judiciously.


Yeah it's a drug, alcohol is a drug... It can have plenty of good uses and be good in moderation like anything else.. It's not really a question of respecting it's power, I'm saying I know I could easily abuse that power... that is an internal struggle within myself.

thank you for your input though ami

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Ami Anne
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posted September 01, 2012 10:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone could abuse it, dear one. For some people, they have a genetic proclivity. Do you?

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FireMoon
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posted September 01, 2012 10:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well that's the thing... There is no alcoholism on my mom's side... My dad dindn't start to drink until he married my step mom who is a very sucessful "funcional alcholic", now I would say he has crossed over that line. Numerous cocktails every night?? As classy as they'd like to see themselves I'd say there's something more to that.

Anyway both of my parents definitely have "addictive" personalites be it to one thing or another... I want to live a life free of addiction, I honestly do, but I never had anyone to rely on who wasn't addicted to something or anohter. And that's not an excuse for me myself to turn to those kinds of vices, but sometime I'd rather just not even be here or deal with this than try to learn everything from scratch and face all these past issues I thought I'd conquored but haven't. Not just trying to get sympathy, just being honest as I am exhausted...

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Ami Anne
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posted September 01, 2012 11:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hear you Fire Moon
I think anyone can get addicted. I think anyone is capable of falling down really low.
Someone I knew who had EVERYTHING and I mean everything just committed suicide.

She was a female MD, who was as gorgeous as a model.
For you, I would talk and talk, like you are doing now. Don't be afraid to talk. That is why Sweet Peas got started.
Are you a member of the LL FB group? Force yourself to reach out. Force yourself to talk to people about real things.
You are making a good start. I am here to listen

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ShyVirgo1979
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posted September 01, 2012 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ShyVirgo1979     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
~Firemoon, u r not alone with that issue. I had issues coping with a crappy childhood back in high school anf turned to drugs and alcohol to deal. Thank goodness I got pregnant when I was 17 bc it saved me from going to the point of no return. I prolly woulda died from alcohol poisoning at some point the way I was going. I quit the drugs/alcohol bc I was prego and didn't drink for yrs. That was '96. Fast forward to 09 and when I got divorced, I started drinking again when the kids were gone on weekends with their dad. I didn't c any harm in wanting to drink with friends. I was 30 freaken yrs old. Not til I drank too much one sat night and spent half the night sick and throwing up. Then I realized that part of the reason I was doing it bc I was depressed about my divorce among other things I didn't wanna face. Earlier this yr, I finally dealt with my own inner demons from my childhood. I'm already predisposed to alcoholism bc my father was an alcoholic, and prolly still is. I'm a social drinker too. And there's nothing wrong with it, until it owns u. Ur right. It can become a problem.

But u have made a really good 1st step in becoming aware of it all. Most addicts won't admit they have a problem for many reasons. U know the whole 'denial' phase. Mine was bc I didn't drink a whole lot. So I didn't deem myself an addict bc I never drink around my kids. Just twice a month. So pat urself on the back for acknowledging what u said in ur 1st post.

The only way to stop urself from finding other ways to escape is to continue to face those inner demons. And its hard. The only reason I did is bc I was at the point where I couldn't shove everything to the back of my mind anymore. I just couldn't avoid my issues. I now drink small amounts and thus avoiding hangovers (lol) and I drink but once every few months instead of every other weekend. I'm too old for that. I'll turn 33 in a few weeks and I have 3 kids to raise. They give me strength.

I agree with ami anne. LL is a wonderful sounding board and there r ppl here who r willing to listen and comfort u. Hugs to ya sweetie

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posted September 01, 2012 03:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

TBH, I once had a serious problem with alcohol, but as one matures, one realizes that if you MUST drink then you have a problem and it is not all that much fun.

Do have an occasional drink, but the all day, every day stuff is a thing of the distant past for me.

Do enjoy going out, but do not feel the need to booze it up, even in "Beer City USA".

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Hera
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posted September 01, 2012 07:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would have been an alcoholic, if I wouldn't hate the effect alcohol has had in my family..
Being a Sag Moon conj Neptune, I always want to find a way out. Alcohol provides that. It also makes me a little bit less inhibited than my Cap Asc would have me be.
In this precise moment I am drinking red wine. Wine is full of antioxidants and good for the body if you don't go overboard. I don't drink anything else and rarely drink per se. I think my last drink was sometime in February. I don't have a drinking problem because I didn't want to have one, not because it wasn't tempting or I didn't want to give in to it every now and then. But I value freedom of mind above and beyond everything else so I won't go into psychedelics or anything. Also, drinking reminds me of my father, the #######. And I hate my father.

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Ami Anne
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posted September 02, 2012 08:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hera
I am sorry you went through all of that.
I can see it developed a well of compassion in you, but who wants to learn that way

Where is your Chiron by house? What are it's aspects?

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lilithpluto
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posted September 02, 2012 09:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilithpluto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I drink only red wine.. and that's really cos it is a healthy drink filled with antioxidant. In a moderate dose.

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Hera
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posted September 02, 2012 10:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Hera
I am sorry you went through all of that.
I can see it developed a well of compassion in you, but who wants to learn that way

Where is your Chiron by house? What are it's aspects?


It's in the 4th house, Ami.. on Algol. It conjuncts Venus widely and that's the only aspect to it (except to angles - opposite MC and trine Asc). Asteroid Angel conjuncts it exact.. always thought that was sweet.

Sometimes one has to sink into the darkness to find their way back into the light.. I feel this is my final battle, the hardest and toughest.

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Ami Anne
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posted September 02, 2012 10:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lilithpluto:
I drink only red wine.. and that's really cos it is a healthy drink filled with antioxidant. In a moderate dose.

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Ami Anne
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posted September 02, 2012 10:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hera
Do you have Chiron conj Algol--exact?

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sand
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posted September 02, 2012 12:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
kissing + alcohol are very hard not to get addicted to.

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RegardesPlatero
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posted September 02, 2012 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RegardesPlatero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think that wine is good--in moderation and used sensibly.

Too much drinking or drinking when you should not drink (e.g., while driving, at work, or while taking meds that require you not to drink) is not good. A glass of wine or two with friends is one thing. Drinking heavily when emotional is not good.

I think, too, that how alcohol affects you is important, as everyone is different. Some people (most people that I know) get silly and laugh a lot. Other people, though, might get moody or mean or violent. If you're affected that way, you should not drink. And if you are easily addicted to drinking and have a hard time stopping, then you shouldn't drink, either.

To sum up: depends on how much and under which circumstances.

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Ami Anne
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posted September 02, 2012 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sand:
kissing + alcohol are very hard not to get addicted to.

True

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sand
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posted September 02, 2012 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
it doesn't make you more attractive does it?

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RedScorp
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posted September 03, 2012 01:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like drinking, I enjoy being drunk...but I'm not addicted or anythang...I view it as something to do at a party or with a few friends. So at best, a social drinker...? Party drinker...? Though once or twice I did do things that I've regretted immediately after lmao.

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drinking is all the craze amongst college kids

High school kids for where I am lol!

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sand
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posted September 03, 2012 01:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Silent bam!

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posted September 03, 2012 03:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LMAO I'm so frickin done w/ u sand omfg

edit: hey ur not from rehab any more...how was it?

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sand
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posted September 03, 2012 04:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was misinformed. Lindsay Lohan was not checked in at that center.

Btw red this forum is still off limits to you for a few more months no? Ahahah!

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posted September 03, 2012 04:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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this forum is still off limits to you for a few more months

STOOOOP you're sucha bully picking on da little guy...

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sand
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posted September 03, 2012 05:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ur taller than me!

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posted September 03, 2012 06:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
By like an inch... besides u work out more or less, me a bitty twig

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