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Lazyscarecrow
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posted October 09, 2012 08:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lazyscarecrow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm talking more about relationships, and yeah sex too but not like the 50 shades of grey stuff.

I am wondering what are the placements or signs of men that will lead to a more "dominant" personality, like NOT controlling or suffocating, but they like to lead in general and the sex he takes control.

I have a few examples of placements that are more submissive.
Aquarius.
I say this because it seems every Aquarius man I ever came across has this vibe, and the women they pick? Scorpio and Aries almost exclusively. And every single one (Scorp and Ewe) I know prefers to run her man's life and wears the pants to a certain degree, except maybe one. They love dominant and aggressive women.
Cancer Mars.
I have attracted more than enough of them and they have this feel where they want the woman to throw them down on the bed and.....you know where it goes from there. And they love being "hurt".

And surprise! I am a Leo woman (with an Aries moon no less) and I HATE having to take control even though I am used to being put in that role. At the same time, I hate "authority", I don't like being dictated to and controlled, but I always fantasize about a confident (but not flashy) and in control kinda guy that knows what hes doing and y'know...throws me over his shoulder. Puts me in my place, yo. My natural inclination is to dominate when the guy isn't up to par but I become deeply unhappy with this.
I guess what I'm saying is I like those who are dominant without snuffing out my shine or making me into a wittle slave, but doesn't force me to lead them around on a leash and hang on my every word.

All I wanna know is...

WHAT SIGN/PLACEMENT IS LIKE THIS?!!
Am I not embracing my sign's need to dominate and be the leader?

am I making sense?

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ail221
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posted October 09, 2012 08:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I understand what your saying maybe you need a fire or earth moon man instead. Or a man with Mars aspecting Jupiter.

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Lazyscarecrow
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posted October 09, 2012 08:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lazyscarecrow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ail221:
I understand what your saying maybe you need a fire or earth moon man instead.

Lol I'm glad you made sense of my borderline rant.

Fire or Earth, sounds good. I can see why compared to a Water sign moon, I had a confusing experience with a Pisces moon which almost made me swear off almost any Pisces placement. Same with a double Cancer. moon/sun xD

you know, I have never met someone with a mars/jupiter I was aware of. Could you explain this aspect if you don't mind?

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posted October 09, 2012 09:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
why are aquarius men always described as submissive on this forum? i'm far from submissive...lmao

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posted October 09, 2012 09:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lazyscarecrow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
why are aquarius men always described as submissive on this forum? i'm far from submissive...lmao

It's just a (personal) observation. Like how you said in one thread Leo chicks are self-absorbed, I'm far from that too ;P

I believe there are more dominant Aquas out there, you included. Your Saturn aspects and moon sign may give you extra authority. I am just going by the Aqua men I have met, which is what we all do sometimes.

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posted October 09, 2012 09:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lazyscarecrow:
It's just a (personal) observation. Like how you said in one thread Leo chicks are self-absorbed, I'm far from that too ;P

I believe there are more dominant Aquas out there, your Saturn aspects may give you extra authority. I am just going by the Aqua men I have met, which is what we all do sometimes.


oh i understand, i wasnt trying to be mean, i just found it odd because most of the aqua guys i know are very willful and stubborn,i've never thought of guys like that as submissive.

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posted October 09, 2012 09:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"not the leather and whips stuff, chill..."

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posted October 09, 2012 09:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lazyscarecrow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
oh i understand, i wasnt trying to be mean, i just found it odd because most of the aqua guys i know are very willful and stubborn,i've never thought of guys like that as submissive.

Oh no I didn't take it that way if anything I was more offensive with the generalization.

And by no means do I think Aqua men are wimps, and yes willful and stubborn are qualities I pick up on, I just notice their penchant for equally, if not more willful and stubborn women. Though the women may just be outwardly expressing it than Aqua does.

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posted October 09, 2012 09:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lazyscarecrow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RedScorp:
"not the leather and whips stuff, chill..."


LOL I didn't want to be misleading.

Although I still think people will enter this thread fairly disappointed.

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posted October 09, 2012 09:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So you go all sassy and tell them to chill,

Personally, I don't care if I'm being dominated or if they're being submissive, I'm just an active person who wants thrillssss. I think Aries, Scorpio, and Capricorn are dominating signs. Taurus, Libra, and Pisces are pretty submissive, I've found. Leo can be pretty assertive, but more often, I find they like to be dominated. Aquarius is just kinda there...doesn't exactly partake in sub-dom games (but they are more often submissive).

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posted October 09, 2012 09:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can be submissive or maybe I'm just lazy. I like to be licked, sucked, and ****** . But I like to play hard to get first ahaha! So very forward women always nab me. Aries placements usually.

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posted October 09, 2012 09:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lazyscarecrow:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by ail221:
[b]I understand what your saying maybe you need a fire or earth moon man instead.


Lol I'm glad you made sense of my borderline rant.

Fire or Earth, sounds good. I can see why compared to a Water sign moon, I had a confusing experience with a Pisces moon which almost made me swear off almost any Pisces placement. Same with a double Cancer. moon/sun xD

you know, I have never met someone with a mars/jupiter I was aware of. Could you explain this aspect if you don't mind?[/B][/QUOTE]

Kinda effortlessly masculine, they can have the most pretty face in the world but they are very much alpha-men. When Mars and Jupiter aspect another harmoniously you get this enthusiastic, charming, competitive, outspoken sometimes intellectual man.

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posted October 09, 2012 09:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^What about Mars square Jupiterrrr?

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posted October 09, 2012 10:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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^What about Mars square Jupiterrrr?

That works too but with the square you get a more clumsy, playful and impulsive person.

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posted October 09, 2012 10:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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a more clumsy, playful and impulsive person.

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posted October 10, 2012 02:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sand:
I can be submissive or maybe I'm just lazy. I like to be licked, sucked, and ****** . But I like to play hard to get first ahaha! So very forward women always nab me. Aries placements usually.

Now he tells me!

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posted October 10, 2012 02:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I have a few examples of placements that are more submissive.
Aquarius.
I say this because it seems every Aquarius man I ever came across has this vibe, and the women they pick? Scorpio and Aries almost exclusively. And every single one (Scorp and Ewe) I know prefers to run her man's life and wears the pants to a certain degree, except maybe one. They love dominant and aggressive women.
Cancer Mars.
I have attracted more than enough of them and they have this feel where they want the woman to throw them down on the bed and.....you know where it goes from there. And they love being "hurt".

I can vouch for Aqua and Cancer Mars too. Funny, I have looked at charts of people into bdsm, whether dom or sub, and almost ALL have something in Aqua or Sun or Moon/Uranus aspect. Almost every friggin time! And yeah, Cancer Marses get off on fantasizing of getting hurt (and cuddled afterwards). I kinda like that about them
Pisces Mars can go either way. Mostly they're switches.

Me.. I tend towards Dominant type but I think I'm a switch as well. I was very unconfident when I had to take on a dominant role before, because I thought it wasn't mine to have (how silly!). But now I don't have that problem anymore. I am controlling and aggressive and it feels good. But I'm not a skank. Aries Mars exactly opposite Pluto.

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posted October 10, 2012 03:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Hera:
Now he tells me!

hera i need to get my bum checked to see if it's cute enough. send u a pic? haha jk!

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posted October 10, 2012 04:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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hera i need to get my bum checked to see if it's cute enough. send u a pic? haha jk!

How about show me in person muahahaha, dare you?

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posted October 10, 2012 07:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i will consider it. but u have to wear a white coat and heels! ..and i want your tongue to sterilize me ahaha!

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posted October 10, 2012 09:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lazyscarecrow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RedScorp:
So you go all sassy and tell them to chill,

Personally, I don't care if I'm being dominated or if they're being submissive, I'm just an active person who wants thrillssss. I think Aries, Scorpio, and Capricorn are dominating signs. Taurus, Libra, and Pisces are pretty submissive, I've found. Leo can be pretty assertive, but more often, I find they like to be dominated. Aquarius is just kinda there...doesn't exactly partake in sub-dom games (but they are more often submissive).



Ahhh okay, I was about to assume you had this Mars-Jupiter aspect ail spoke of. Thrilling and active.
I also agree with those signs being more sub. Pisces just wants to do everything in its power to the please most of the time, but I have heard other Pisceans are just more laid-back (aka lazy). Same with Libra.
I also agree with Aries, Scorpio and Cap being more IN control. Maybe I should also keep an eye out for such placements? I an also vouch for the Leo secret domination thing, well as a Leo female anyway (dunno about guys).

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posted October 10, 2012 09:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lazyscarecrow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sand:
I can be submissive or maybe I'm just lazy. I like to be licked, sucked, and ****** . But I like to play hard to get first ahaha! So very forward women always nab me. Aries placements usually.

Thanks for painting the picture for me, Sand.

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posted October 10, 2012 09:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lazyscarecrow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ail221:
Kinda effortlessly masculine, they can have the most pretty face in the world but they are very much alpha-men. When Mars and Jupiter aspect another harmoniously you get this enthusiastic, charming, competitive, outspoken sometimes intellectual man.

Sounds like my kinda man. And funny enough, I looked through my database and found one such guy who fits this but he has the quintile aspect yet his Mars has good trines from Sun, Pluto, etc.
So I have another question, what do you think of quintiles? I know only a tad about them.

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posted October 10, 2012 10:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lazyscarecrow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Hera:
I can vouch for Aqua and Cancer Mars too. Funny, I have looked at charts of people into bdsm, whether dom or sub, and almost ALL have something in Aqua or Sun or Moon/Uranus aspect. Almost every friggin time! And yeah, Cancer Marses get off on fantasizing of getting hurt (and cuddled afterwards). I kinda like that about them
Pisces Mars can go either way. Mostly they're switches.

Me.. I tend towards Dominant type but I think I'm a switch as well. I was very unconfident when I had to take on a dominant role before, because I thought it wasn't mine to have (how silly!). But now I don't have that problem anymore. I am controlling and aggressive and it feels good. But I'm not a skank. Aries Mars exactly opposite Pluto.


Hey Hera, I like this post.
Didn't know about the Moon-Uranus aspect, I vaguely know how it's interpreted but I can't think of a way to tie it in with aggressive or passive sexual behavior Interesting.Yes, Cancer Mars are sweet like that, I will agree.
Also didn't know that about Pisces Mars. I personally have never known a male Pisces Mars, but I read about them from others and they said they were very passive. You are welcome to tell me more about it if you wish to.
Aries Sun and Aries Mars? Wow. I would imagine those placements lend to a lady in charge. I have Mars opp Pluto too, but I think it's detrimental Taurus Mars that wants me to sort of lay back while my partner takes the reins from time to time. But like you, I feel like switch is a good term for me, with a sub lean.

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posted October 10, 2012 11:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lazyscarecrow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Hera:
I can vouch for Aqua and Cancer Mars too. Funny, I have looked at charts of people into bdsm, whether dom or sub, and almost ALL have something in Aqua or Sun or Moon/Uranus aspect. Almost every friggin time! And yeah, Cancer Marses get off on fantasizing of getting hurt (and cuddled afterwards). I kinda like that about them
Pisces Mars can go either way. Mostly they're switches.

Me.. I tend towards Dominant type but I think I'm a switch as well. I was very unconfident when I had to take on a dominant role before, because I thought it wasn't mine to have (how silly!). But now I don't have that problem anymore. I am controlling and aggressive and it feels good. But I'm not a skank. Aries Mars exactly opposite Pluto.


Hey Hera, I like this post.
Didn't know about the Moon-Uranus aspect, I vaguely know how it's interpreted but I can't think of a way to tie it in with aggressive or passive sexual behavior Interesting.Yes, Cancer Mars are sweet like that, I will agree.
Also didn't know that about Pisces Mars. I personally have never known a male Pisces Mars, but I read about them from others and they said they were very passive. You are welcome to tell me more about it if you wish to.
Aries Sun and Aries Mars? Wow. I would imagine those placements lend to a lady in charge. I have Mars opp Pluto too, but I think it's detrimental Taurus Mars that wants me to sort of lay back while my partner takes the reins from time to time. But like you, I feel like switch is a good term for me, with a sub lean.

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