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Yin
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posted December 05, 2012 07:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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Padre35
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posted December 05, 2012 07:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not an immigrant Yin, but understand where you are coming from.

I've studied Mandarin for a moment if one feels that would help?

Nao Ma?

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Yin
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posted December 05, 2012 07:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm Bulgarian.
Как си?

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posted December 05, 2012 07:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Yin:
I'm Bulgarian.
Как си?

Cannot help you there..

Speak a touch of Romanian, no Bulgarian

Chemi Fatch?

(spelled it like it sounds)

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Yin
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posted December 05, 2012 07:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, no. We speak different languages.

Do you feel lonely now, Padre?

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Padre35
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posted December 05, 2012 07:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Yin:
Oh, no. We speak different languages.

Do you feel lonely now, Padre?


Not so much, however I do feel a bit down.

Moms decided to pull the plug on her bone cancer treatment.

Cannot complete that thought Yin.

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Yin
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posted December 05, 2012 07:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am so incredibly sorry, Padre.

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Padre35
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posted December 05, 2012 07:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I am so incredibly sorry, Padre.

Thanks Yin, but don't be if it pleases you.

I've saved her life on 3 occasions, this time, I failed.

No one is perfect.

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MillyX
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posted December 05, 2012 07:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MillyX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I feel for you Yin. My aunt just recently immigrated up here & it's hard for her because she knows she won't be able to see her son & other family members for at least 5 years. I have other relatives who immigrated around the world & because of work contracts they aren't able to go back to the homeland to spend the holidays with family. It's tough sometimes it's either you choose poverty+family or material security. It's a sacrifice alright. You could always Skype with your family members back home, I know it's not the same thing though. Hang in there <3

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Yin
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posted December 05, 2012 07:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't believe for a minute that you have failed her in any way. I have to run for now but please know that tonight on this forum you have someone who is trying to feel your pain and trying to understand.

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posted December 05, 2012 07:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Yin:
I don't believe for a minute that you have failed her in any way. I have to run for now but please know that tonight on this forum you have someone who is trying to feel your pain and trying to understand.

Thanks Yin, it is not like that though.

Diabetes, heart attack, stroke, cancer, she is just ready to leave..she's a Pisces and a fmr psychic.

She may have had enough, and I failed to give her reasons to live my friend.

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posted December 05, 2012 07:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaturnineMoth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yin~ *superhug*

You're not alone. I get homesick every 4-7 months sometimes it gets pretty bad, and takes a toll on my physical health even. It's very lonely transitioning to a new country, I can completely understand the loneliness in how alienated you are when you make such a drastic change in environment, believe me, I know... And, then you put the holidays/birthdays on top of all that and start to feel even more secluded... yeah?

Been away from home since April 10th of 2007, and only visited my home state three times, twice in 2008, and just this past year for only two weeks without being able to take my son... and for my father's passing no less.

I have a family who thinks I've pretty much abandoned any thought of coming home and feel they have no hope of seeing their grandson/nephew/lilcousin ever again. Sometimes,the guilt they don't realize they place on me makes it even worse...

I have a lot of interpals (it's a site online for socializing with people all over the globe) who come to Canada, I've even met up with a few in Toronto a few times in the past. I encourage them to socialize, and really get out into the community to assimilate better, and interact with the locals whenever they have an opportunity. I have a young child though and household duties that keep myself from really getting to follow my own advice though. *shock* yeah~ slightly hypocritical - but at the same time, I'm only doing what I'm here to do~ and that's not experience Canada~ haha but, raise my son.

It does help them though~ and I've even gotten to help many of them gain permanent positions, and lodging at times so they could enjoy their stays and flourish within the time they have abroad (make the most out of the whole experience)! I don't really know what your circumstance is or where you're at/from~ but, I truly believe the best thing is socializing. If you have a hobby or skill (plus some time), that can maybe lead to joining a group/club out there, and there are places online to find others with the same~ It may be a great idea to pursue something like that. Like films, join a film club, like concerts, go to meetups with others into the same music... you like social causes, engage in demonstrations and the like. But, do what you can to get yourself out more, and truly allow yourself to find companionship with people who are safe, and reliable; someone who you can trust and is considerate or even understands/has experienced firsthand your own or a similar drastic change.

If you have friends back home or family you are still close with, (sometimes this makes things harder), but maybe try to stay in contact with them a little more... sometimes it's just that you're soul is needing a bit of familiarity... there are also expat groups/organizations that may help, religious organizations, and events if that's your thing... but, sometimes I feel, maintaining a bit of your own identity, and participating in your own customs (family or cultural) helps to lessen the culture shock,the homesickness, and the holiday blues...

For me, it's almost mandatory now that I call a friend to just sorta' "check in" every once in a while. They know me a trillion times better than anyone else will ever probably know me here, and they are extremely accepting of my eccentricities, and sudden reappearance and disappearances. lol or they just tolerate it - because they love me that much... idk~ but, they are the ones I depend on most during blue spells, keeping in touch with them on FB, by letter, cards, and whatever other means is necessary and knowing how they are - and my brother, and cousins... that's how I stay grounded, and sheltered from the chaos that is living abroad, and excruciatingly secluded here in Canada.

(granted I have in-laws.... but, they function on some other wavelength where even if they live next door they only drop by when they want to borrow something... <.< - which is very different from my family/friends/myself who always circulated between houses and over greater distances to stay in touch... cultural differences ahoy too~ 'cause I basically live in lil' Portugal outside of lil' Portugal... having all Portuguese in-laws and being the first not-even-half Porkchop to join the family... ya' get me? lol) --- while Canada and USA aren't super different by any means.... and there are plenty of English speaking folks out there I'm sure... my neighborhood now is dominated by old Italian and Portuguese families, who speak little English or broken English... my in-laws, only the young ones speak English and they're all "too posh" for me... lol faux riche and/or nouveau riche - that's these guys... and I'm just a lil' coal crackers daughter from the wrong side of the tracks. --- huuuuge differences!) >.<;

If you ever wanna talk about anything - I'm here and I'd gladly give you my fb~ or even # or @ if you'd like... It's no biggy~ my heart goes out to you~ truly! stay strong!!! good things will definitely come your way!~ gotta chin up!

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posted December 05, 2012 07:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yin{{{hugs)))
I wish I knew of some way to help you feel better.

Padre35 I can empathize with your mom.
Enduring severe illness is very exhausting and it is very hard to keep going.
Whilst not as ill as her;
I have been mostly bed bound for the past 8 months, and disabled for some 24 years to date;
I can understand her I feel.
{{{hugs to you and your mom}}}

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posted December 06, 2012 04:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Yin{{{hugs)))
I wish I knew of some way to help you feel better.

Padre35 I can empathize with your mom.
Enduring severe illness is very exhausting and it is very hard to keep going.
Whilst not as ill as her;
I have been mostly bed bound for the past 8 months, and disabled for some 24 years to date;
I can understand her I feel.
{{{hugs to you and your mom}}}


So nice, thank you..Benedictus!

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posted December 06, 2012 08:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mockingbird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aw, I wish you lived near me.
I feel awash in Bulgarians

Ok, not so much anymore, but definitely when I still worked at my University.

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posted December 06, 2012 08:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mockingbird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Padre, I'm so sorry

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Ami Anne
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posted December 06, 2012 08:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sorry you are feeling low, Yin

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posted December 06, 2012 08:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very sorry to hear about your mother, Padre.

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posted December 06, 2012 03:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charmainec     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted December 08, 2012 06:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Suntiger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Yin,
I'm Italian and moved to the USA when I was 10--and I'm 23 now. I get homesick and lonely around the holidays and birthdays too. I go visit them when I have vacation (typically over the summer, when classes are let out and work isn't in the way). When I can't visit, I Skype with my family or I get overwhelmed with depression. It's just not the same when I'm not home with them and I'm always thinking about what I'm missing out on.

I feel for everyone going through a hard time

Life is meant to be spent with the people you cherish most.

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posted December 08, 2012 07:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've never felt more alone, and I have family (or at this point: blood relations) right here under the same roof.

I do have some idea of what you mean, though. On FB, I saw pictures of a group of girls from one school I attended in england - all best friends then and now, getting together as usual, for a big lunch to catch up, and they're all on FB. I was moved around, and don't have that.

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posted December 08, 2012 07:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Where I used to live I knew plenty who "couldn't go home" due to a wide variety of reasons (thousands of miles away, one from another country, some cut their families off, others cut off by their family, etc) and we had a "potluck" Thanksgiving every year which would often bleed over into a Christmas dinner as well. I have some real good memories of that as well as having made close friends (though many ended up moving away).

Anyway, you might consider doing something like that. But I did not advertise, it was strictly by invitation by those we knew (which slowly grew). Well, now that I think about it I think one of our members DID put up a notice at a gay community center for a "home away from home" Thanksgiving, but that's it.

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posted December 08, 2012 08:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Suntiger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^^ that is a really cool idea.

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posted December 09, 2012 08:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was an immigrant once upon a time. A vagabond half way around the world from home by myself. But I developed relationships.

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posted December 10, 2012 01:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, SaturnineMoth, MillyX, Lexx, mockingbird, YTA, Ami Anne, Suntiger, teasel, PixieJane and charm.
The depression is lessening these days.

I love the meetup idea! I've tried it before but it wasn't very successful. I'll try again!

Thank you so much, wonderful people, for all the support. It made a big difference.

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