posted January 03, 2013 05:04 PM            

And these guys even matched off a Little Pony vs. a Transformers robot:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8er83h9Bbn8

posted January 03, 2013 05:20 PM            

If say some spirit or god said this to me I'd ask them to instead help me to be strong rather than simply being strong for me while I remained forever weak and dependent (and would reject it if it refused). And if a PERSON said this to me...well, it might be well intended, but I'd see it as crazy talk, and under certain circumstances I could be deeply disturbed by it.

And if the said person had fangs and no reflection I'd run fast & far. (ETA: I realize many fans of Twilight would have a different view.)

posted January 04, 2013 05:45 AM            

I'm very unfussed.

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I have to ease my way into understanding these things.

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I don't. I don't actually care...
If it's not hurting anyone - then - whatever..

posted January 04, 2013 02:16 PM            

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Meanwhile, I'd like to point out that a great many adults have kid interests (not that extreme, but still).

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I actually love that...

I'll add another example: I think it's really great when older men have huge train sets that they spend a lot of time on. A favorite book of mine is called Playing with Trains by former racecar driver Sam Posey, it's about his obsession with building train layouts.

And I love older people playing with dolls, especially when they are classy dolls in dollhouses.

I actually collect some toys myself: German wooden block sets that are, to me, very beautiful.

No, it's not the child-like behavior that sounds alarms with me. It's the diapers, for one thing. And the way that this is referred to as a "movement" and couched in terms similar to other social trends, like the transgender movement.

The one adult baby featured in my OP, Riley, is transgender, so maybe it just comes naturally to her to speak of the baby movement in the same terms as becoming transgender. She talks about helping young people come to terms with their inner baby, finding resources and support, realizing it's okay to be this way. The assumption is, there is something immutable inside that makes them want to be babies.

So I think, if you can just take this formula for legitimizing unusual behavior... and by formula I mean a certain kind of rhetoric based on people being born a certain way and entitled to live according to the instincts that come along with it...if you can take that formula and apply it to anything, how many behaviors that we now deem "crazy" are going to gain acceptance, traction, and visibility? Because that rhetoric is all about acceptance, so it seems to have a limitless applicability.

I just wonder about these things...wonder how weird things can get.

posted January 04, 2013 02:35 PM            

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Finally, a great many adults want to be babies, eternally cared for by a deity....

This isn't about eternal love, btw, it's about eternal dependency of one on another. And a great many people see it as something desirable (to make one dependent or to be dependent on another). So in my way of seeing things wearing diapers is just a symbolic next step.

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Good point.

The welfare state is also referred to as "the nanny state" by some, and that unhealthy, overly-dependent mentality is unfortunately running rampant in America.

posted January 04, 2013 02:37 PM            

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I find it funny but I know I shouldn't be laughing because it's quite sad when you think about it. I'm not shocked by it, I've seen more disturbing things in life than that. Seeing adults in diapers isn't freaky. I'll tell you what's freaky: Hoarders & finding a ton of dead cats from years ago forgotten in the basement. *shivers* I watched that show once, never watching it again. TLC has some pretty weird shows.

But I gotta say eww at ' comforting warmth of a wet diaper'. hahaha narssty

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I agree, losing dead cats in the basement is weirder than being an adult baby.

posted January 04, 2013 03:34 PM            

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So I think, if you can just take this formula for legitimizing unusual behavior... and by formula I mean a certain kind of rhetoric based on people being born a certain way and entitled to live according to the instincts that come along with it...if you can take that formula and apply it to anything, how many behaviors that we now deem "crazy" are going to gain acceptance, traction, and visibility? Because that rhetoric is all about acceptance, so it seems to have a limitless applicability

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IDK. I like to think that the vast majority of people would never be ok using diapers instead of a toilet...though I believe adult diapers (for legite medical conditions) are a lot more common than people realize, so it probably wouldn't be that big a deal if even more got into that (disturbing to me, yes, but no skin off my butt). Generally speaking, if they're not hurting anyone (at least other than the self) then I figure whatever floats their boat. Feel free to try me with specific examples, if you please.

posted January 04, 2013 03:37 PM            

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I actually love that...

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I loved this scene (and found him cute doing this) from Firefly, too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znxFrgql5dc

posted January 04, 2013 04:32 PM            

When I look at trends, either the ones happening or looking like they might take off, I wonder what their impact will be on the whole society.

This is part of the reason why I'm not a Libertarian, I can't get with the notion that whatever a person does in private is strictly their business. Because I think that everything is connected, so if you go home and privately engage in violent or destructive hobbies, it's going to ooze out somehow and affect other people.

I mean, the herd mentality is really strong, especially in modern times when we have the technology to make any odd behavior look appealing, on some level, and "sell" that behavior on a massive scale in a short time frame.

Right now I'm thinking of an older trend, though: cutting. Obviously masochism has been around for ages, but cutting is a particular form of it...an objectively arbitrary behavior/meme that's been adopted by growing numbers of teens.

So I think about the hundredth monkey and the communication that gets us there, and "private" behavior seems like an artificial construct...really, on some level, everything we do is connected to what others are doing (I'm inclined to believe.)

Maybe it's my Scorpio NN that overly enjoys starkness, but trends that are very materialistic and generate massive amounts of waste, diapers in this case, bother me more than others. They are like landfill-generating memes.

posted January 04, 2013 05:46 PM            

As for not being Libertarian in that aspect, I don't see how stopping others from doing whatever in the privacy of their own homes stops destruction, violence, and harm, but I do see how it increases the harm done. Take the drug war, for example. Prohibition (and that includes alcohol when it was a prohibited drug) actually makes the destructive effects that much more deadly and adds in a lot of unintended consequences, such as putting people who aren't dangerous into a prison that negates much of their ability to be productive citizens while at the same time hardening them and teaching them criminal skills and providing criminal contacts for them, which in turn makes society a lot less safe for all of us simply because some people were offended over the idea of them getting a buzz. And that's just the short & sweet, I could really go on how it's much worse than that. Granted, illegal ops cause a lot of damage (though just like with alcohol, such ops are drastically reduces with decriminalization), but there's a difference between prohibiting a private vice and prohibiting the dumping of toxic chemicals.

Cutting strikes me as a different category, most kids who do it are ashamed of it and claim they don't want to, much like other self-destructive disorders such as bulimia and anorexia. That is, it's not the same as piercing or tattooing. I'm all for prohibiting kids from doing that (as the effects are dangerous and possibly permanent and their judgment can be thought of as limited at best, even if plenty of kids display better sense & maturity than many adults), but it seems only a few actually see it as a preferred lifestyle. And as for the adults that do it, well I don't think you can help those who don't want to be helped, at least not once their brain has pretty much matured so it's less adaptable.

Btw, there were kids who wore pacifiers around their neck when I was a kid, and occasionally they'd even suck on them (supposed to relieve stress and some said they prevented teeth grinding by those on E, and I think I read something about how a gangstah movie in the 80s originally started the trend). I never got into that myself, though I found it funny (of course the schools didn't allow it which just made it cool to sneak pacifiers into the school), but I wasn't surprised when it went out of fashion pretty fast.

That said, I'm in terrified awe of the power of advertising, and I see it as having the power to make turkeys want Thanksgiving. While I'm all for decriminalizing drugs there's no way I'd want anyone to be able to advertise them (save maybe in a head shop, liquor store, etc), and that includes for prescription meds (including psyche meds). Of course advertising isn't just commercial, it's also political & religious (typically called "propaganda" in such cases).

posted January 04, 2013 09:41 PM            

Just to clarify, I'm not in favor of expanding legislation, I differ with Libertarian philosophy on some points, but agree with them about getting the government out of personal affairs.

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Still, I can't think of any advertising campaign or even movie that would inspire people to wear diapers or "be babies." Little girls, yes, but not actual babies. And I just can't imagine it ever becoming that popular.

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I'm just surprised there is ANY movement whatsoever, and I think it came together organically, and then increased in numbers the way that all cults do. So maybe it's not an advertising thing so much as an outreach or missionary dynamic, predicated on some innate desire all people seem to have, to conform with a larger group. Sometimes it seems like the more radically weird the group is, the tighter the bonds that are forged.

So now people are out there saying stuff like, 'Do you ever want to wear diapers? You might be one of US! Come join our community!"

It actually doesn't seem really meaningful in the slightest bit...like bonding over liking hot sauce or whatever...but it's sold as a kind of identity thing.."I am an adult baby." It's a label.

The girl in the video I posted went on a talk show and mentioned that she wears designer diapers, specifically made for adult babies; there's also a market for adult cribs and high chairs. She mentioned going to events where the whole baby community comes together...and they are all different races sort of coexisting in harmony, as she puts it, bonding over wearing diapers.

To me that is surreal.

True that "the vast majority of people are living harmful and self-degrading lifestyles," and it seems totally arbitrary which hobbies are accepted versus stigmatized in the mainstream.

So maybe there is no solid footing with which to judge what's going on with the adult babies; 'best I can say is, a whole lifetime of being in diapers is very wasteful and, to me, it seems like a dead end street...how can one grow at all when they are fixated on not growing..on remaining a toddler all their lives?

posted January 05, 2013 07:36 AM            

FYI, this is the video I was referring to, where she is packaging being an adult baby like it's a cause. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_AovbIFrMc

7:30 "We need to get over the shame cycles, for the young people...there needs to be education for the young people, so if you're a young person and an adult baby, for you to feel better about yourself."