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Hera
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posted January 09, 2013 01:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As a romantic with Moon (DC ruler) conj Neptune in late Sagittarius, I have always maintained hope. But I guess there comes a time when you need to acknowledge that your hope might be, for now, in vain. Truth is, if a man wants you, he would find a way to contact you, make room in his busy schedule to include time with you, make space in his priority list for you and so on and so forth.

I do think however that it is more complicated than that. Sadly I've been on the other side of the coin. When the other loved more. And I know it's not always just disinterest on the more distant partner. Sometimes you're just not ready, or too confused, or in a period of healing, or too tangled up in other things to even think about love.. But when that rosy-cheeked child in diapers hits you with his arrow, you make an effort.

It is easy to fall into the trap of finding excuses for our partners.. But a little bit of the bitter truth might save you from a much more painful heartache and disappointment.

Sometimes.. he's just not that into you. And there's not much you can do about it. Being the only one who contacts might be interpreted as desperation or even harassment if said contact is not wanted. Rushing him when he's not ready will only lead to resentment. Manipulating him through sex will see him gone just as soon as the hot sex wears off. Demanding more time or attention when you're clearly not a priority would make you look hysterical (and men hate that).

Yesterday I witnessed without my will a conversation as I was standing in line at the post office and the clerk, a young woman, was flirting with a costumer whom she knew. She kept flirting, he flirted back mildly, I'd say not to encourage her but rather not to offend her. She unfortunately took that as encouragement and became bolder and bolder. Now this wasn't any of my business, except I was in a hurry and their flirting was in my Aries way. Clearly she was crushing on him and he wasn't that interested, though I'd say he might have appreciated her as a friend. Relax, I didn't interfere, but since I had nothing better to do, I was in awe with the synchronicity and it offered food for thought since I myself am in a similar situation. I wanted to scream at her, girl, let it go, he doesn't feel the same! But at same time realized I might just scream that at myself. I try to not make things worse by insisting. Do I still have hope he will come around? Of course. But for now I do need to realize.. he's just not that into me.

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sand
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posted January 09, 2013 02:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Demanding more time or attention when you're clearly not a priority would make you look hysterical (and men hate that).

^true

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aquaguy91
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posted January 09, 2013 02:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
this seems to be something that women have more trouble with for whatever reason, i never have understood it lol.. my mom and sister are always speculating why the men in their life arent calling or wanting to spend time with them when it should very very simple, he doesnt really care about them lol... but still they obsess over it and try getting the guys to open up to them and the guy eventually runs far far away... of course when a guy is actually interested and makes his intentions clear they want absolutely zero to do with him, guys like me who dont have their heads up their ***** and know what they want ... lmao and this is why i am very cynical about the whole thing

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posted January 09, 2013 02:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think it's okay to doubt that at the beginning when you're playing cat and mouse. Good fun! But u should know and feel it that he adores you.. Eventually. When there is nothing left to bare.

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posted January 09, 2013 02:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sand:
I think it's okay to doubt that at the beginning when you're playing cat and mouse. Good fun! But u should know and feel it that he adores you.. Eventually. When there is nothing left to bare.

not really, that whole game playing cycle should never start to begin with, both parties should be open and honest to avoid misunderstandings.

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posted January 09, 2013 02:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's OK if a guy is not interested in you. There are plenty of guys you're not interested in, correct? Don't measure yourself by your failures but by your successes. He's not into you? Drop him and move on. A kinder, better, more interested in you person is right around the corner. Don't get discouraged. Love yourself, be there for yourself. You should be your own best friend. You are worth it. ♥


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posted January 09, 2013 02:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
not to sound arrogant but i feel like i have lots of perspective on this issue because i have seen it from all sides. you see in high school i had lots of interest from girls, probably because i had my head up my ass lol. i was confused about what i wanted out of a relationship and for the most part didnt want to get tied down. i was the type of guy who would go on a date with a girl and not call her for a week, while she obsessively tried to get in touch with me. i had 3 girls who were especially obsessed with me and were desperate to get in a relationship with me. one tried
to manipulate me into a relationship via fwb. anyways by the end of high school i had grown up and was ready for a real relationship, i wasnt confused anymore and knew exactly what i wanted. about a year after high school i ran into one of the girls who was soo obsessed with me , of course when she saw me she immediately ran up and hugged and kissed me. we ended up exchanging phone numbers and got back in touch. we went on several dates ( just like in high school) but this time i was more mature about it and was more consistent. i ended up developing feelings for her and was open and honest about it, what did she do? lost interest and ran away lol...this was the same girl who was soo desperate for me when i was an immature jacka** , but when i had matured and was willing to give her the commitment she soo desperately wanted she bolted.

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posted January 09, 2013 03:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Scorpion and the Frog

One day, a scorpion looked around at the mountain where he lived and decided that he wanted a change. So he set out on a journey through the forests and hills. He climbed over rocks and under vines and kept going until he reached a river.
The river was wide and swift, and the scorpion stopped to reconsider the situation. He couldn't see any way across. So he ran upriver and then checked downriver, all the while thinking that he might have to turn back.

Suddenly, he saw a frog sitting in the rushes by the bank of the stream on the other side of the river. He decided to ask the frog for help getting across the stream.

"Hellooo Mr. Frog!" called the scorpion across the water, "Would you be so kind as to give me a ride on your back across the river?"

"Well now, Mr. Scorpion! How do I know that if I try to help you, you wont try to kill me?" asked the frog hesitantly.

"Because," the scorpion replied, "If I try to kill you, then I would die too, for you see I cannot swim!"

Now this seemed to make sense to the frog. But he asked. "What about when I get close to the bank? You could still try to kill me and get back to the shore!"

"This is true," agreed the scorpion, "But then I wouldn't be able to get to the other side of the river!"

"Alright then...how do I know you wont just wait till we get to the other side and THEN kill me?" said the frog.

"Ahh...," crooned the scorpion, "Because you see, once you've taken me to the other side of this river, I will be so grateful for your help, that it would hardly be fair to reward you with death, now would it?!"

So the frog agreed to take the scorpion across the river. He swam over to the bank and settled himself near the mud to pick up his passenger. The scorpion crawled onto the frog's back, his sharp claws prickling into the frog's soft hide, and the frog slid into the river. The muddy water swirled around them, but the frog stayed near the surface so the scorpion would not drown. He kicked strongly through the first half of the stream, his flippers paddling wildly against the current.

Halfway across the river, the frog suddenly felt a sharp sting in his back and, out of the corner of his eye, saw the scorpion remove his stinger from the frog's back. A deadening numbness began to creep into his limbs.

"You fool!" croaked the frog, "Now we shall both die! Why on earth did you do that?"

The scorpion shrugged, and did a little jig on the drownings frog's back.

"I could not help myself. It is my nature."

Then they both sank into the muddy waters of the swiftly flowing river.

Self destruction - "Its my Nature", said the Scorpion...

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posted January 09, 2013 03:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I LOVE that book! Also, if the girl is oblivious to clues of disinterest I actually wouldn't worry about her (granted I would probably chuckle to myself if in line waiting.)
Girls like that tend to fall for any relationship because they feel better about themselves when they're in one. Of course that's my opinion. But it doesn't include you though, Hera.

Things are a lot more complicated than that book though. For instance, what if the man isn't making excuses? I mean what if you were in the same situation he is (not your man specifically but a man), would your romantic relationship still be your first priority? This is assuming he is going through a major life transition. If you meet a man and everything is fine in his life, that is where I would apply the "he's just not into you" theory and move on.

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posted January 09, 2013 03:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by aquaguy91:
not to sound arrogant but i feel like i have lots of perspective on this issue because i have seen it from all sides. you see in high school i had lots of interest from girls, probably because i had my head up my ass lol. i was confused about what i wanted out of a relationship and for the most part didnt want to get tied down. i was the type of guy who would go on a date with a girl and not call her for a week, while she obsessively tried to get in touch with me. i had 3 girls who were especially obsessed with me and were desperate to get in a relationship with me. one tried
to manipulate me into a relationship via fwb. anyways by the end of high school i had grown up and was ready for a real relationship, i wasnt confused anymore and knew exactly what i wanted. about a year after high school i ran into one of the girls who was soo obsessed with me , of course when she saw me she immediately ran up and hugged and kissed me. we ended up exchanging phone numbers and got back in touch. we went on several dates ( just like in high school) but this time i was more mature about it and was more consistent. i ended up developing feelings for her and was open and honest about it, what did she do? lost interest and ran away lol...this was the same girl who was soo desperate for me when i was an immature jacka** , but when i had matured and was willing to give her the commitment she soo desperately wanted she bolted.

You should date more complex people lol!

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posted January 09, 2013 03:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sand:
You should date more complex people lol!

complex people? lmao

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posted January 09, 2013 03:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bah. This relationship stuff is too complex. What happened to the good old days where men came home to drink a martini, eat dinner and were left alone, and women made dinner and just wanted the credit card to go shopping, and be left alone. Then both would meet for sex for15 minutes twice a week and then sleep in separate beds/bedrooms. Those were simplier times. Just kidding.

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posted January 09, 2013 03:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

And sometimes women are quick to think they guy is just not into them.

Maybe to quickly sometimes, sometimes we are just slow to make a move b/c the time does not seem right.

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posted January 09, 2013 03:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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And sometimes women are quick to think they guy is just not into them.

Maybe to quickly sometimes, sometimes we are just slow to make a move b/c the time does not seem right.


oh god dont encourage them lol..

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posted January 09, 2013 03:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Like my sister in law, for example. She goes to great lengths to spend time with her husband. They live in Charlotte by the way. He'll spend two days at a NASCAR race and I know my prissy sister in law hates loud car racing and camping cowboy style in the infield. Lol.

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posted January 09, 2013 04:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like this bro thing that you guys have going on here. It's refreshing to see men supporting each other on LL.

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posted January 09, 2013 04:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yin, it's just the same five of us. We are outnumbered easily by a factor of twenty.

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posted January 09, 2013 04:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's a good thing, YTA.

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posted January 09, 2013 04:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, Yin! I am not putting myself down with this, but it was a good realization overall even if it hurts a little. I love the affirmations! I do some of them too and they do work!

Sandie, you just had to share that story didn't you? lol

Hanna,
I actually didn't read the book lol but ofc know about it and I actually think it is a healthy perspective instead of feeding yourself illusions and lies. Swallowing the bitter pill can bring improvement! And of course I see your point, I have been in their shoes as well and do know it can happen. It still hurts though lol.

Aqua,
I know this is a sensitive subject. I am glad you are more mature now and know what you want. Sometimes it's women who screw things up, indeed.

Padre,
That is a good food for thought. Indeed some of us might be too quick to ask for something more stable or committed, long before its time. I believe I have made the same mistake with the guy in question - I thought I made things clear when instead got him to run for the hills. Well, not really coz he came back but yeah I guess he's just not ready or not into me, either way it seems to be my call if I stay or go.

YTA,
yes, the simple life! My Cap rising craves it too! Though Aries loves the drama! lol

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posted January 09, 2013 05:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Bah. This relationship stuff is too complex. What happened to the good old days where men came home to drink a martini, eat dinner and were left alone, and women made dinner and just wanted the credit card to go shopping, and be left alone. Then both would meet for sex for15 minutes twice a week and then sleep in separate beds/bedrooms. Those were simplier times. Just kidding.

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posted January 09, 2013 07:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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sand: The scorpion shrugged, and did a little jig on the drownings frog's back.

Love it! The frog is dumb scorpions can live underwater for like a week before they start to drown, and THAT takes like a day!

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posted January 09, 2013 07:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://dailypicksandflicks.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Why-men-marry-bitches.jpg

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posted January 09, 2013 07:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Bah. This relationship stuff is too complex. What happened to the good old days where men came home to drink a martini, eat dinner and were left alone, and women made dinner and just wanted the credit card to go shopping, and be left alone. Then both would meet for sex for15 minutes twice a week and then sleep in separate beds/bedrooms. Those were simplier times. Just kidding.

Didn't they just make a movie about that called "Hope Springs"?

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posted January 09, 2013 07:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^. Really. I had no idea. Never knew about that.

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posted January 09, 2013 09:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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this seems to be something that women have more trouble with for whatever reason

not european women

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