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somethingexcellent
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posted January 18, 2013 07:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for somethingexcellent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So nowadays, in various amounts/rates, teens are sexually experimenting. Not only that, some teens are very sexually active, while others do keep their virginity, or even singularity until adulthood!

What I want to know is...what is your stance? I personally was active from around 15. My sister is 15 too and I recently found out that she isn't a virgin either! It's not shocking news to me to be quite honest.

My stance is I approve of sexual experimentation! I embrace sexual activity. I find it's okay as long as they're making informed decisions. To me, my concern is how informed parents keep their children. But in all honesty, I don't pass judgement on other teens for their sexual choices and libidos. When I have kids, I'll definitely try to educate them, let them know it's okay to have urges, wants, to do things...as long as they know what they're doing.

Disclaimer: I don't mean to push the envelop!

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juniperb
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posted January 18, 2013 07:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
somethingexcellent, what is your age now?

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somethingexcellent
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posted January 18, 2013 07:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for somethingexcellent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How about the way girls are dressing? Or taking pics with cleavage showing?

juniperb; I'd rather not say! But it's been years since I was 15, believe me.

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aquaguy91
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posted January 18, 2013 07:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
girls need to quit dressing soo provocatively, the little sirens are leading the boys astray. i think all the kids need structured activities soo they wont have time to experiment.

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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted January 18, 2013 07:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's the parents' responsibility to control their children. Lack of control and/or lack if discipline is solely the fault of the parents.

I have a 17 year old and he will remain celibate. Because his mom and I say so. End of discussion.

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somethingexcellent
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posted January 18, 2013 07:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for somethingexcellent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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YoursTrulyAlways: Lack of control and/or lack if discipline is solely the fault of the parents. [...] Because his mom and I say so.

Very respectable! It would utterly and totally wrong for anyone to tell you how to raise your children, given that they're happy, healthy, and you're capable and of sound mind (which I'm very sure you are, )

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Stawr
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posted January 18, 2013 08:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I kept my virginity into my young adulthood.(19)
Which is sort of rare for now of days. (was it back then too? How should I know?)

But yeah, I was different. And yes I was involved in a lot of activities to keep me busy. Dance and theater. Didn't really start "experimenting" til I was 17(couldn't repress urges any more and was a late bloomer.)

I did dress skimpy sometimes as a kid. I had a tube top when I was 11 and wore it to an N'SYNC concert. but in my teens I was too self conscious to wear strapless tops.
Now I own two halter tops. For the summer time of course. Hey it's hot, I'm covered. But the lace halter one I wore in my clubbing days my mom said "you look hoey in that" lmfao But I didn't start wearing those again until my 20's.

I remember my jr year of high school I got B cups. And I wasn't use to have cleavage. I remember when every time I looked down and saw my cleavage I would pull up my camisole under shirt. It got tiring doing that, so then I finally just embraced my new curves.

But yeah I remember other girls taking "slutty" pictures of themselves cleavage out(though I don't think that makes someone slutty) doing suggestive poses like the whole "v" with the fingers and their tongue out in between. Pretty sure girl wasn't doing it to be funny either, pretty sure she was doing it to give every guy on the internet a hard on. Sadly she was probably age 12-14.

Oh God and the way people dance today! It's not even dancing!

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posted January 18, 2013 08:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yeah teen hood...has the hormones but not the fully developed brain.

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FireMoon
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posted January 18, 2013 08:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
[B]girls need to quit dressing soo provocatively, the little sirens are leading the boys astray.[B]

That's a classic. Michael Sanguinetti would agree with you.

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sweet-scorpion
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posted January 18, 2013 09:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweet-scorpion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Seems like many of my Pluto in Scorpio friends are sexually experimental too. So was I, for a time. I have a black hole on my Mars however, and Mars-Pluto which made it even harder for me to control myself. But I felt bad about having sex with people I didn't care about to satiate my hormones... no one-night stands or anything, but it still made me feel bad.

Now I'm going the other route and trying to take things slow. Sometimes sexual experimenting can be great, at others times it can give mixed feelings, low self-esteem etc. You just have to know how not to go too fast especially in the mid to late teen years. I feel that 16 and 17 is the natural time most people start experimenting. I had just turned 18.

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PixieJane
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posted January 18, 2013 09:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
girls need to quit dressing soo provocatively, the little sirens are leading the boys astray

I understand that even in countries where women are forced to wear burkas that they're still all that men (and boys) can think about. (Interesting enough in such countries even an ankle can be highly erotic, whereas in cultures where women normally go topless then breasts are no more erotic than hair & face.)

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PixieJane
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posted January 18, 2013 09:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm pretty neutral on the topic as a whole, it depends too much on the individuals. Of course they need to be given all info. In part it's because if they ever decide to engage in it they'll need to know the risks and how to counter them, but even more it creates credibility so that kids can come to adults when they need help or wondering what to do.

And while plenty of kids are sexually experimenting, I don't see that as unique to today. Granny told me some pretty wild sex stories of the 50s, and back then it wasn't unusual for teens to marry before they were even considered adults. The military, which recruits a lot of older teens, have long included instructional vids on how to use condoms when with prostitutes (here's a WW2 sexual hygiene vid), and IIRC it was the late 19th century in which the Army actually provided prostitutes (who were carefully screened and routinely evaluated by doctors) until the fundies put an end to that (much for the same reason as HPV vaccines today). And I don't think I'll ever hear wilder stories than what some Viet Nam Vets had to share what they did on R&R (what they called I & I for "Intoxication & Intercourse"), I thought I'd heard it all being around prostitutes as a runaway but I was blown away by the sexual adventures they had in Nam (and I was surprised how many enjoyed beads used on them while having sex).

I know many say the kids are crazy with it, but most of those news reports are false and just meant to lure in viewers with fear to sell advertising space, and include outright deceit (one thrift store owner probably had grounds to sue had she decided to, though luckily her customers recognized how full of BS it was when it aired). I know some point to flicks like Thirteen, but that was supposed to be based on Venice, CA, and I lived there myself at the time the kids were having their experiences to be made into a movie. And I can believe the events in the movie happened (though I suspect exaggeration), but such raunchy clothes are normally only found in specialty shops and even in the movie such wild girls were a minority looked down on by the rest, IOW it's believable but not typical of the teen experience.

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aquaguy91
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posted January 18, 2013 09:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by FireMoon:
That's a classic. Michael Sanguinetti would agree with you.


hiho the patriarchy has to go!

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RedScorp
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posted January 18, 2013 10:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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aquaguy91: girls need to quit dressing soo provocatively, the little sirens are leading the boys astray

I'll have you know there was still sexual assault and stray thought back when women were wearing petticoats and farthingales.

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aquaguy91
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posted January 18, 2013 10:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
who said anything about sexual assaults ?

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RedScorp
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posted January 18, 2013 10:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Leading boys astray" could mean anything, Mr. Aquaface.

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aquaguy91
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posted January 18, 2013 11:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i was joking. however i will say that women who dress provocatively and complain about getting stared at annoy me. men are visual creatures and are going to look at boobs when boobs are staring them right in the face, thats nothing new.

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posted January 18, 2013 11:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You need better jokes, but that's not very new either. Peace, light, and love!

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FireMoon
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posted January 18, 2013 11:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
hiho the patriarchy has to go!

So clever!

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aquaguy91
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posted January 18, 2013 11:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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MillyX
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posted January 19, 2013 12:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MillyX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
19 & still a virgin :P I don't know...From where I'm from losing your virginity at an early age is not that important...Correct me if I'm wrong but it seems like in the States it's much more different, there is more pressure on being sexually active at an early age. I have family from the US & I find it sick how my cousin is always boasting on Facebook about he lost his early.

Personally, I feel like 14-15 is quite young for sexual experimentation, but that's just me. Because for me, 14/15 is still a kids age, you're supposed to be having fun with your friends, enjoying your youth, not grow up too fast & trying to do things that adults do. You aren't mentally mature at that age & why would you risk getting pregnant (goodbye youth & fun times) for a few minutes of pleasure? There are way too many teen moms out there.Sleeping with someone you love is ok for me. But sleeping around with plenty of guys just because you're horny. No. My teen hormones make me very horny but I just masturbate & I'm cool with it. I guess I'm too goal oriented...I fear forgetting taking one pill & getting pregnant. Having a baby at an early age=end of the world for me. I don't want to be a stay at home mom.

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posted January 19, 2013 02:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^

Back when I went to high school (97-99) oral sex was the thing to get around that. Sometimes it seemed everyone was doing it, though I don't know how many did. Not only did it prevent pregnancy, but many operated under the false belief that there was no chance for STDs that way either (one of the problem of adults lying to scare kids away from having sex or doing drugs is that kids come to ignore that facts along with the lies). It didn't help when then President Clinton said oral sex didn't count as sex (oh did the kids love throwing that at the teachers and others trying to stop the oral sex going on).

Interesting enough, even those determined to remain virgins also exchanged such sex, sometimes frequently. There were even girls who experienced anal because they wanted to preserve their virginity (though I think that was rare). Of course they then told others they were virgins, which led to the false belief that there was no chance of STD on their part. The really sick part was one who confessed (published) to being really active with her mouth while **** shaming those who weren't virgins like herself (of course she left out how sexually active she was herself when she did this so she couldn't be called on her hypocrisy).

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PixieJane
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posted January 19, 2013 02:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Btw, I thought this was worth throwing into the pot, about the failure of abstinence-only sex ed and how the programs that are TRULY educational (that is, explore full birth control and protective options, which does include abstinence, just not limited to it) result in teens with the least risky behavior:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ex0_Hc2H65w

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posted January 19, 2013 04:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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aquaguy91
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posted January 19, 2013 04:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by FireMoon:
Ok I'll just say this strikes a personal nerve for me.. As a woman with let's just say, naturally enhanced features, I was continuously singled out growing up for wearing the same type of clothing other women with smaller boobs got away with (even if it didn't actually reveal anything more or show any more cleavage), for me it was still considered "inappropriate". As if I was doing something wrong.. I was actually legitimately ashamed of my body as a teenager, and it took a long time to overcome that and the issues that came along with it but now I'm just at a point where I feel like this is the way I look and I'm sorry I'm not sorry if that is too "provocative" for you..

And I know you obviously in no way were speaking about me personally, but it's the same concept, just because a woman is comfortable with her own sexuality (even if that means dressing "provocatively") doesn't mean she's asking for every man who finds her attractive to approach her sexually.. If you think a woman is "leading you astray" or asking to be hit on, and therefore doesn't have the right to turn you down, or is provoking uncontrollable actions (or thoughts... whatever) because of the way she's dressed, then that's where the real problem is..

In my humble opinion of course



i understand what you are saying and wasnt saying the way girls dress give a guy permission to approach. i was specifically talking about girls who wear provocative clothes and complain about guys gawking at them. i said guys are gonna stare i didnt say they are gonna approach. i also understand that guys are gonna look anyway, but dressing provocatively will only make it that much worse.

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