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Kerosene
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posted March 17, 2013 04:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My uncle is a very similar situation.. His wife is just horrid to him and broke up our relationship with him.
He's a libra with a pisces moon, no balls to stand up for himself and thats why his life sucks..
I frankly don't care because its his own fault.

He's and extremely wealthy but married Cruella de Vil.
He promised my grandfather before he died that he would take care of my education but his wife assumes his money is her money.
I frankly don't care because I got a scholarship but still... helping out your favorite nephew with his education is a waste of money but buying designer gowns for your wifes friends is totally necessary...

He actually lost his position so I wonder how Cruella is handling this ahhahaa.
God I hate her.
Also she was a ***** to my sweet old grandmother..

Eww marriage...

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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted March 17, 2013 07:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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his wife assumes his money is her money.

Of course it is. That is one of the central tenets of marriage. That's the deal if and when you get married.

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lilithpluto
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posted March 17, 2013 09:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilithpluto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have this married guy friend who did had an affair with a younger lady at his workplace. Wife found out. She raised hell and got bitter. She was deeply hurt. She wanted divorce and wanted half his fortune to punish him once. Long story short. But they made it work... as of now. In his words, there is always love despite some communication issues.. and they have a history. She may not be the most understanding woman with regards to his working hours but they have 4 children... 1 was a stillborn. He would rather go therapy counseling with his wife rather than divorce. He don't want to have to introduce another woman into his children's lives. He doesn't want to ever have to explain to his beloved children this.

It's pretty clear to me that young girl never stood a chance no matter how much he loved her. His children will always come first.

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lilithpluto
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posted March 17, 2013 10:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilithpluto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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cappy1277
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posted March 17, 2013 10:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cappy1277     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's funny how the wife always ends up the bad guy in some way....maybe he made her like that? Maybe she's a bitter old hag because of him? Love stands in the way of nothing even money. There would be no secrets or no qualms about starting a whole brand new life with the new girl. Men like that are cowards and its bad karma for both parties to participate in infidelity like that.

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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted March 17, 2013 10:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Men who trash talk their wives under any circumstances are bad enough. People take a vow to uphold and cherish, not b1tch and gripe.

No one forced anybody to get married. If a man can't stay with the wife that he chose to marry, it speaks volumes about his character.

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asclibrasagsun
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posted March 17, 2013 11:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for asclibrasagsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Of course it is. That is one of the central tenets of marriage. That's the deal if and when you get married.

not all men think so though, unfortunately

my father always stated his money was his and never shared...

that marriage fell apart

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asclibrasagsun
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posted March 17, 2013 11:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for asclibrasagsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
My uncle is a very similar situation.. His wife is just horrid to him and broke up our relationship with him.
He's a libra with a pisces moon, no balls to stand up for himself and thats why his life sucks..
I frankly don't care because its his own fault.

He's and extremely wealthy but married Cruella de Vil.
He promised my grandfather before he died that he would take care of my education but his wife assumes his money is her money.
I frankly don't care because I got a scholarship but still... helping out your favorite nephew with his education is a waste of money but buying designer gowns for your wifes friends is totally necessary...

He actually lost his position so I wonder how Cruella is handling this ahhahaa.
God I hate her.
Also she was a ***** to my sweet old grandmother..

Eww marriage...


this is so sad

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asclibrasagsun
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posted March 17, 2013 11:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for asclibrasagsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lilithpluto:
I have this married guy friend who did had an affair with a younger lady at his workplace. Wife found out. She raised hell and got bitter. She was deeply hurt. She wanted divorce and wanted half his fortune to punish him once. Long story short. But they made it work... as of now. In his words, there is always love despite some communication issues.. and they have a history. She may not be the most understanding woman with regards to his working hours but they have 4 children... 1 was a stillborn. He would rather go therapy counseling with his wife rather than divorce. He don't want to have to introduce another woman into his children's lives. He doesn't want to ever have to explain to his beloved children this.

It's pretty clear to me that young girl never stood a chance no matter how much he loved her. His children will always come first.


it is not always like that though, it also depends on the age of the children
I know a man who had even 5 small children and got married to a very young girl and divorced the older wife
I know a man who had one older child and who divorced the older wife
It has to do with the status of the marriage and the feelings involved

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asclibrasagsun
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posted March 17, 2013 11:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for asclibrasagsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by cappy1277:
It's funny how the wife always ends up the bad guy in some way....maybe he made her like that? Maybe she's a bitter old hag because of him? Love stands in the way of nothing even money. There would be no secrets or no qualms about starting a whole brand new life with the new girl. Men like that are cowards and its bad karma for both parties to participate in infidelity like that.

the way a wife looks on the exterior is a reflection of how the marriage is in my opinion, she looks like **** ...? must be because of the marriage, or because she REALLY doesn't know how to take care of herself... usually because of the marriage though

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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted March 17, 2013 11:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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the way a wife looks on the exterior is a reflection of how the marriage is in my opinion, she looks like **** ...? must be because of the marriage, or because she REALLY doesn't know how to take care of herself... usually because of the marriage though

Lol. Some women like my wife have enough confidence that they'll look good regardless of how their husbands treat them. The difference between a loving husband and a putz is the difference between them going home or headed to the home of a more desirable man.

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cappy1277
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posted March 17, 2013 11:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cappy1277     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Lol. Some women like my wife have enough confidence that they'll look good regardless of how their husbands treat them. The difference between a loving husband and a putz is the difference between them going home or headed to the home of a more desirable man.

Took the words out my mouth....lol. Besides, most women didn't begin that way. There had to be a level attraction there to even get them together. Some women's self esteem is predicated by how well they are treated by the people around them.

I've heard some doozies in life from married men but in the end, it's all the same thing- they want their cake & eat it too.

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asclibrasagsun
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posted March 17, 2013 11:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for asclibrasagsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Lol. Some women like my wife have enough confidence that they'll look good regardless of how their husbands treat them. The difference between a loving husband and a putz is the difference between them going home or headed to the home of a more desirable man.

I don't think you understood what was intended.

If a woman is constantly living under stress and abuse at home, of course she is going to look older/more depressed because of the environment she is living in...
also, if her husband is not making enough money and she is at home not working either, she will not have the cash to spend on facials/procedures to keep herself and her skin looking young, as an example

you always twist everyone's words just so you can insert your own opinion on a completely different topic

and by the way I do not even agree with you at all, if a husband mistreats his wife: her self-esteem is going to be crushed over time, especially if she is a sensitive human being.
your wife however it looks like has a tight grasp around your balls and that's good for you, because you are always holding her up on a pedestal, but don't forget that in life not everyone lives like you do

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posted March 17, 2013 11:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cappy1277     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think it's a twist of words...we are all saying the same things just in different ways. 😃

You don't need money for facials and treatments. That wouldn't help if your under constant stress all the time anyway lol. Some men are real d-bags and they need to be held accountable for the direction of their marriage just as much as they hold women accountable.

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asclibrasagsun
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posted March 17, 2013 11:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for asclibrasagsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I don't think it's a twist of words...we are all saying the same things just in different ways. 😃

You don't need money for facials and treatments. That wouldn't help if your under constant stress all the time anyway lol. Some men are real d-bags and they need to be held accountable for the direction of their marriage just as much as they hold women accountable.


Agreed!!!

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posted March 17, 2013 12:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Another factor is misery loves company. Many couples are happily miserable and have no desire to change it.

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lilithpluto
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posted March 17, 2013 12:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilithpluto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Another factor is misery loves company. Many couples are happily miserable and have no desire to change it.


Yeah. and there are considerations.

I'm always spooked by unhappy couples who hated each other yet somehow, they got married!! That's spooky... one can be married to another who makes them miserable.

Jokes aside. Nobody plan to get married to divorce. It takes work, at least one party must be more tolerant. I know this man, married to my close friend for 40 years+. They are both in their 60s now (yes, i like to mix with older crowd cos they always have plenty of stories to tell) - he tolerates her temper, gives in to her unreasonable wilful tantrums... - i always tell her, he is the reason why the marriage is still on-going so long... and i must say this man in his 60s still looks hot in suit and tie, plays regular tennis. And he is faithful, succesful with his own business and has the charisma that most men won't have.

And he never travel overseas for business w/o his wife.

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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted March 17, 2013 12:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted March 17, 2013 12:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A man who loves his wife will uphold his wife, period. My wife upholds me to the fullest extent. Nobody needs to grab me by anything. I have the charisma.. And the resources... To attract more than adequate female companionship. But I'm disinterested because I live my wife.

Having successful relationships isn't so weird, you know. Not all men are scum.

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asclibrasagsun
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posted March 17, 2013 01:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for asclibrasagsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Yeah. and there are considerations.

I'm always spooked by unhappy couples who hated each other yet somehow, they got married!! That's spooky... one can be married to another who makes them miserable.

Jokes aside. Nobody plan to get married to divorce. It takes work, at least one party must be more tolerant. I know this man, married to my close friend for 40 years+. They are both in their 60s now (yes, i like to mix with older crowd cos they always have plenty of stories to tell) - he tolerates her temper, gives in to her unreasonable wilful tantrums... - i always tell her, he is the reason why the marriage is still on-going so long... and i must say this man in his 60s still looks hot in suit and tie, plays regular tennis. And he is faithful, succesful with his own business and has the charisma that most men won't have.

And he never travel overseas for business w/o his wife.


now that's a tolerant man right there

never understood why women like that deserve to be married though

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posted March 17, 2013 03:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Lol. Some women like my wife have enough confidence that they'll look good regardless of how their husbands treat them. The difference between a loving husband and a putz is the difference between them going home or headed to the home of a more desirable man.

Are you a capricorn?
Your thoughts very similar to a capricorns, they always feel they're not good enough so they always achieve and achieve great things but the sad thing is they still feel they are not up to par. Thats the vibe I get from you.

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posted March 17, 2013 03:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for asclibrasagsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Are you a capricorn?
Your thoughts very similar to a capricorns, they always feel they're not good enough so they always achieve and achieve great things but the sad thing is they still feel they are not up to par. Thats the vibe I get from you.

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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted March 17, 2013 06:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Are you a capricorn?
Your thoughts very similar to a capricorns, they always feel they're not good enough so they always achieve and achieve great things but the sad thing is they still feel they are not up to par. Thats the vibe I get from you.

Yes I am, and in the native 10th House as well. Plus Mars and Mercury. What's the purpose behind accomplishing something and then sitting on your laurels? Why then would a world record holder want to break his own record and do better?

The best is yet to come, and the sky's the limit.

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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted March 17, 2013 06:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted March 17, 2013 07:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12muddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I’m not an old man but I know men who are in the same situation so I'd like to chime in.

Most of these men use their marriage like a security blanket. They all have “something” on the side, but they will never leave, because honestly, with a record of cheating like that, their chances with the other ladies are quite slim.

Or they don’t want to divide the assets. This is what confuses me the most lol. Wouldn’t it be better to divorce and stop the misery? The twisted thing is that their wives know about their little funs, but decides to ignore it because they also don’t want to lose half of what they have. In the end, both parties stay together and try their best to make each other miserable.

Another reason is the cultural background. In my culture, divorces = losing face/having low morals... So they want to maintain a facade of a functional family, sometimes for the sake of the children. Gah, children come from “broken” families and children whose father have died, are judged very harshly. My parents insisted that they stayed together for my sake, but really what child would want to live in a cold, loveless home. I don’t know how people who have divorced parents feel, but I think I’d much prefer that.

This is one of the topics my husband and I talked frequently about, before we got married. We decided that if one party broke the trust, we’d go separate ways. In our opinions, that is better than being trapped in such a marriage.


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