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PixieJane
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posted March 17, 2013 10:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by asclibrasagsun:
So men, older men in particular, I have a question for you:

IF you no longer love your old menopausal wife... why live with her? She's ugly, you don't want to have sex with her, she nags all day and bothers you...
Would you stay just for the sake of the kids? Is it finance that is preventing you from leaving the old hag (so to say) because she will demand high alimony payments?
Question: Why do some men choose to stay in unhappy and miserable relationships when they could be giving themselves a good chance at a nice loving relationship with a nicer younger lady?


I actually know this one, generally speaking. Most trophy wives you speak of aren't going to be that interested in you because of the absurd sense of entitlement many older men have (which clashes with the absurd sense of entitlement many younger women have), and older men are generally too tired for living it up, aren't going to get any wealthier, looks & health are faded, so if you actually marry then she can and will clean you out, possibly even poison you which might become especially feasible to her if she has a boytoy on the side that actually interests her, because you're not someone she loves, you're just a resource with an annoying will of its own. And most older men KNOW that (plus many find those still young & pretty to be shallow, not that he has much room to be talking if he's more concerned with eye candy, and prone to pouting if her sugardaddy doesn't get her the latest thing, possibly leaving him for a more generous "daddy"), and a young lady is likely to have a disapproving (and possibly hostile & potentially violent) family, which is why most married men stick to prostitutes (many, if not most, johns are married), or if they're especially wealthy then sugarbabes. Heck, even many older men that divorce who decide to get themselves some pleasing eye candy go the route of being a sugardaddy rather than a husband, at least if he can afford it (otherwise, marriage, and hoping she doesn't divorce him later).

Beyond that, there are also benefits that come from marriage (such as taxes), would be inconvenient to split (in addition to what she would likely take, at least without a really good lawyer on his part and even then he's looking at a loss in addition to legal fees, there's also having to rethink insurance plans, etc), and men suck (or at least balk) at many basic tasks (cooking, cleaning, etc) that older (but not plenty of younger) women excel at that he doesn't want to lose. And some do stay for the children, out of a sense of loyalty (or at least futility), and because of family pressure, though I think these reasons are less likely to be prominent. At least a few men marry and stay that way to prove they're not gay (when they are), it's all an elaborate cover and don't want to have to create another.

Btw, women do it, too. They find it convenient to stay in marriages they don't want (some even encourage their husband to take on a sex toy so she doesn't have to deal with him, be they asexual, or someone alienated from sex as he's just so terrible and/or entitled in bed, or lesbians who seek their own action on the side similar to many men), and while they stand to win a lot in divorce court they're still usually worse off than before (especially if she doesn't have her own income). So they remain in a marriage they hate as it's most convenient, possibly out of loyalty to him or the children, and perhaps social image (especially in rural regions and going to a misogynist church that subtly or overtly blames women for everything bad that happens, including divorce even if he's cheating on her because she should've kept him from wanting to cheat in the first place). And, like men, many get their toys on the side (though I think they're less prone to it than men, still plenty doing it all the same).

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Aquacheeka
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posted March 17, 2013 10:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think any younger woman going after an old guy with a wife at home is probably ugly, pathetic and desperate, so that would probably explain why the older guy wouldn't trade in his wife for her.

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T
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posted March 17, 2013 11:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*edit

another 'how not to raise your kids' story

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T
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posted March 17, 2013 11:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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asclibrasagsun
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posted March 18, 2013 01:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for asclibrasagsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
I think any younger woman going after an old guy with a wife at home is probably ugly, pathetic and desperate, so that would probably explain why the older guy wouldn't trade in his wife for her.

I wouldn't say so.

I've seen a lot of gorgeous couples like that

Sounds like you have a personal problem

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asclibrasagsun
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posted March 18, 2013 01:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for asclibrasagsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PixieJane:
I actually know this one, generally speaking. Most trophy wives you speak of aren't going to be that interested in you because of the absurd sense of entitlement many older men have (which clashes with the absurd sense of entitlement many younger women have), and older men are generally too tired for living it up, aren't going to get any wealthier, looks & health are faded, so if you actually marry then she can and will clean you out, possibly even poison you which might become especially feasible to her if she has a boytoy on the side that actually interests her, because you're not someone she loves, you're just a resource with an annoying will of its own. And most older men KNOW that (plus many find those still young & pretty to be shallow, not that he has much room to be talking if he's more concerned with eye candy, and prone to pouting if her sugardaddy doesn't get her the latest thing, possibly leaving him for a more generous "daddy"), and a young lady is likely to have a disapproving (and possibly hostile & potentially violent) family, which is why most married men stick to prostitutes (many, if not most, johns are married), or if they're especially wealthy then sugarbabes. Heck, even many older men that divorce who decide to get themselves some pleasing eye candy go the route of being a sugardaddy rather than a husband, at least if he can afford it (otherwise, marriage, and hoping she doesn't divorce him later).

Beyond that, there are also benefits that come from marriage (such as taxes), would be inconvenient to split (in addition to what she would likely take, at least without a really good lawyer on his part and even then he's looking at a loss in addition to legal fees, there's also having to rethink insurance plans, etc), and men suck (or at least balk) at many basic tasks (cooking, cleaning, etc) that older (but not plenty of younger) women excel at that he doesn't want to lose. And some do stay for the children, out of a sense of loyalty (or at least futility), and because of family pressure, though I think these reasons are less likely to be prominent. At least a few men marry and stay that way to prove they're not gay (when they are), it's all an elaborate cover and don't want to have to create another.

Btw, women do it, too. They find it convenient to stay in marriages they don't want (some even encourage their husband to take on a sex toy so she doesn't have to deal with him, be they asexual, or someone alienated from sex as he's just so terrible and/or entitled in bed, or lesbians who seek their own action on the side similar to many men), and while they stand to win a lot in divorce court they're still usually worse off than before (especially if she doesn't have her own income). So they remain in a marriage they hate as it's most convenient, possibly out of loyalty to him or the children, and perhaps social image (especially in rural regions and going to a misogynist church that subtly or overtly blames women for everything bad that happens, including divorce even if he's cheating on her because she should've kept him from wanting to cheat in the first place). And, like men, many get their toys on the side (though I think they're less prone to it than men, still plenty doing it all the same).


Taxes? I've seen people divorce so that they can pay LESS taxes not more.

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asclibrasagsun
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posted March 18, 2013 01:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for asclibrasagsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
T, that's very sad that your mother treated you that way

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T
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posted March 18, 2013 02:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you.

& that's actually a nice story. LOL

god help me.

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Aquacheeka
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posted March 18, 2013 12:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by asclibrasagsun:
I wouldn't say so.

I've seen a lot of gorgeous couples like that

Sounds like you have a personal problem



Do you live in LA with a lot of golddiggers? I don't know of any young girls going for much older men unless they are ugly or have psychological problems. Maybe it's the latter then?

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